Hello everyone, as I got a new job with a pretty good salary, I decided to upgrade my existing rig; I currently own a Razer Blade 2018 (i7 8750H & Gtx 1070) and a FHD 144hz 1ms monitor.
I was considering getting a Razer Core v2 to plug my mouse and keyboard in and have it, together with a 2080ti, pass the signal to a new FHD 240hz screen.
Would that be enough to have something as close as possible to 240fps in Apex, Destiny 2, PUBG, Fortnite, Overwatch and so on?
I'm planning to to run them at lowest settings and, if required, underscaled textures just for the sake of competitive bonus frames per second.
I know that egpu would bottleneck, but 6C 12T are probably going to keep things a bit balanced, aren't they?
Does anyone have the chance to test this for me? I can only find 4k data.
Also, considering how cooler the notebook will run, I might as well force the CPU to stay on turbo 24/7.
Sorry for asking something people might have already talked about, but it has been hard for me to gather information on FHD 240hz egpu rigs.
Thank you in advance!
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The TB3 interface will severely bottleneck the 2080ti to a point where it is no use. Dont waste your money on it. The 6core CPU doesnt matter, the performance can just not be called upon in games.
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A 2080TI barely performs betters than a laptop 1080 in most cases and in some others it performs even less.
In theory the bottleneck shouldnt be as large since it is basically a PCI express 3.0 4X slo.Which should give the performance mentioned here https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-pci-express-scaling/6.html
But the TB3 port is using PCH lanes and not direct CPU lanes which causes a huge performance drop and there is also the TB3 communication overhead. So in the end you pay a solid 1000~1200USD for an extremely measly upgrade compared to the internal 1070MQ that you have now. -
Yeah TB3 e-GPU setups aint where it should be yet, it's for folks who have MX150s and 1050's in their laptops. You should just sell that laptop, and with the extra money, instead of a core v2/2080 ti, buy an actual rtx2080 rb15 2019 edition advanced model. the performance boost will be MUCH better. also the 9750h is a great CPU.
I am seriously hoping a new revision of TB3 comes out with PCIe 4.0 lanes that actually dedicates directly to the CPU lanes instead of this round about B.S. they have now. Totally worthless in more powerful laptops, or at the very least, not even close to worth it with the cost ratio. -
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Apart from that some rare games arent affected by the bottleneck but the large majority are. So sadly you are leaving that part out of the equation. Youtube is filled with similar videos as I have posted earlier and i have my fair share of experiences with egpus as well. It is not just with high framerate low res gaming. 1440P high settings is already enough to show the problems.
Wouldnt surprise me that you have fairly okay results as well because the laptop you are talking about (1070mq must be of the GS series) is thermally constrained so by offloading heat it starts to run better as well nerxt to that 1 odd game that you mention.In general use, a 2080ti just doesnt perform in TB3 and thats a fact.
A nice discussion surrounding the performance drops can be found here
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-egpu-results.825412/Last edited: Aug 10, 2019 -
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RTX 2080 Super 24% Performance Penalty over TB3
Evidence: NoteBookCheck
Laughable GTX 1070 Max Q Performance a full 35.59% worse than above however it is running in spec not as you said "overheating".
Evidence: NoteBookCheck
As I said above your claim that a 1070 Max Q would perform the same as an RTX 2080 TI let alone albeit a weaker RTX 2080 Super is false.
Also this is worst case scenario as this is Fire Strike and it is not in 4K and we are goign to see the worst performance hit in this benchmark our scores only improve in Fire Strike Extreme due to lower bandwidth requirements!Last edited: Aug 11, 2019seanwee likes this. -
Again I posted a video with real life results in situations not focused on getting the highest FPS possible on low settings.
I dont rhave my eGPU setup anymore or else I would have made recordings specially for you to see. BUt I ditched it because poor performance. -
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Your statement on fire strike is also off base it’s a good determination and shows a 25% difference off what it should be getting which is huge but it also shows that it’s better than a 1070 Max Q which it is unquestionably.
Also If you’ve seen my other posts that RTX 2080 Super is doing worse in the Fire Strike test then my heavily modded RTX 2080 Max Q in my 2019 Razer Blade. But in games the RTX 2080 Super is getting higher FPS numbers in 4K. Which means the bandwidth is limiting the score in fire strike not the FPS results at high resolution due to lower bandwidth requirements!
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But dont take my word for it. As you can see below on the highest settings you already see the TB3 solution with a 2080ti only 18 frames in front of the 1070MQ, on lower settings this difference disappears almost as expected and said by both of us. But those 17 fps more while the potential even in the AGA is much higher shows the large drop that I described. This is a DX12 title so it is making far less calls compared to DX11 which flatters the TB3 a bit. I cannot find any benchmarks that show games such as Assassins Creed origins and Odyssey , Division 2 and other recent titles. But during my own testing, the internal 1070 of my Alienware was constantly having the same framerate on 1440P high settings as the 2080ti Aorus TB3 box. This is why I returned it and to keep my money in my pocket until I will buy a desktop again. Some games such as CS GO do not show a drop though, which in that case would show the potential of a TB3 dock if it wouldnt have those limits in more modern games.
https://imgur.com/elzjxa1
Unfortunately reviews do not test the heavier games with the TB3 setups, users report TB3 2080ti scores of around 18000 graphics score, that is in the ballpark of a 1070 non max Q laptop GPU. -
Gaming temperature improvement however is great on TB3 egpu setting. I see up to 20 degrees cpu thermal improvement, and i don’t mind set cpu on its max tdp and OC max the gpu in the enclosure on this setting unlike playing with Blade dgpu.
Temperature difference playing around hour AC Oddysey.
Corev2 2080 OC 160/1000 cpu gaming mode (45 watt)
Blade 15dgpu no OC cpu balance mode (25 watt)
If you need performance comparison number 1070dgpu vs 2080ti TB3 egpu.
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/16524814/fs/16153079rb6freak likes this. -
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