Razer Blade 2016 Fan Control success

hi everyone

i can now freely control the fan speed of the Razer Blade 2016. it should work for other versions,too.

The Fan Speed can be dropped, but completly stopping it will be difficult.


so this ist how i control the Fans:


You will need:

- Notebook Fancontrol

https://github.com/hirschmann/nbfc/releases/download/1.4.2/NoteBookFanControl.1.4.2.setup.exe

- Razer Blade 2016.xml ( config file )

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00017442882981417611

1. Install Notebook Fancontrol
2. Put the Razer Blade 2016.xml file to --> Program Files (x86)\NoteBook FanControl\Configs
3. Start the Program
4. Choose the Pofile
5. Enjoy

I put it to Auto all the time. Now on not so demanding tasks the Fans are a little bit more silent.

The temperature is visible but the Fan speed is not visible yet

If someone want to optimize it, just read the howto for the NotebookFanControl app.

Thx to the programmer for this great app.

 

Doesn't work on 2015 blade, attached a SS of what's showing up, window option and error message you get by applying the profile.


Edit: after a random BSOD it rebooted and started working.
I gotta love you my friend.

 

i am happy to hear that.

hope this spreades fast and will be optimized soon

 

https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/razer-blade-2015-synapse-fan-profiles.13976/

Posted it on their forum for good, some mod will probably delete it, but at least a few members will eventually download it.

Thank you again, I've been looking for this since I got my Blade.

 

i am very happy i could help. The profile was not that hard to make. some trial an faliure and its done. i hope other people will like it like you do. thx for the kind words.

 

Just tried it on my 2014 Blade and it works!

The only thing that doesn't seem to work is the Current Fan Speed reading, but setting the Target Fan Speed works just fine.

Amazing! Thank you!

Update* - I had to uninstall the program, for some reason it was messing with my battery, it was giving me "undetected battery" while running off battery power. Or it would be at 80%, then suddenly drop down to 2%, forcing the laptop to go into sleep mode, only to boot up right after and be at 80% again.

Going to have to hold off using this until some more updates/info.

 

If you want to customize it its very simple. Just read this:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/notebook-fancontrol-user-manual-pdf.105862/

You should get it working in no time.

it is reading the values of the EC and alters it.

 

Hi there! I tried to run this on my 2016 Razer Blade (the new one with the GTX 1060) and it's acting a little weird. When I first run it, it works perfectly, the fans quiet down and everything. After a couple minutes it just goes to sleep randomly, then when it comes back the fans are louder than before and I have no control over it. Razer Synapse can still control the fans but the program you mentioned only starts working when I set it to like 80% or higher. Is there any (more agressive) options I can do to take over the fan speed than that program?

 

Were the fans louder than before after it woke back up? I think I'm having the same issue, it randomly slept after having the program. It's such a nice program but a shame that there are small issues like this.

 

My fans just go straight to max when I run the program. I'm using a 2014 Blade for reference.

 

Thanks for posting this, this now leads me a bit further in my quests.

I think all the Blade 14s use the ITE IT8528E and its specifications that you can get from ITE directly contain information about the registers for the fans.

You can find the specs of the IT8518E freely on the interwebs thoug and they seem similiar.

The ite basiaclly controlles everything!
Messing around with defently explains the wiered behaviour some of you are reporting.

Edit:
Started looking it up.
the chip has 4 PWM channels dedicated for the fans. and some other for color sensors and ****.
Probalby 4channels split up in pairs for Fan1 and Fan2.

Section 7.12.4 EC Interface Registers:
base adress 1800h.
(offsets)
Fan1 tach LSB (1Eh)
Fan1 tach MSB (1Fh)
Fan2 tach LSB (20h)
Fan2 tach MSB (21h)

Section 7.12.4.12 describes this more specific.

EDIT 2:
its 7.11.xx for the 8518, looks identical though.
http://www.recomb-omsk.ru/published/SC/html/scripts/doc/94689_datasheet_IT8512E_F_V0.4.1.pdf

 

WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN???
Is there hope for manually controlling the fan? I checked out the PDF and found the section you are talking about but it all just looks like gibberish to me.

 

It means you can use RWE to verify you have the correct addresses to write to (hit the 'EC' tab). Once you know these then you have the data necessary to create the config xml that NoteBook FanControl requires. Mind that the tool wants decimal addresses while RWE lists hexadecimal. However, clicking on a single address highlights its decimal value in red on the top-left corner, so there's no need to convert manually:

Spoiler: RWE addresses, hexadecimal and decimal

This decimal value can then be used in NBFC in order to verify whether it actually is the correct address to write to.

How did you find it at the ITE site?

I've been looking for the IT8587A, but no such luck ... all they have is the IT8380 and even this one doesn't have a specification sheet for download. The russian site doesn't have it either, nor does Mouser.

 

I'm sorry I don't have any experience in this kind of stuff. I'm looking in RWE in the EC tab but I don't know what I'm looking for. The address you are giving in the picture is just "00" and I'm not exactly sure what to do here. In Notebook Fan Control I found the spot to change the Read/Write registers I just don't know what to put. I don't know if it was a risky thing to do but I put 30 in the write register since 1Eh is 30 (like in your picture). But it has no effect on the fans when I mess with it.

 

I also started looking into the actual usage of that info and didn't get far.

Noticed that the blade 2016 file only has one Fan in it, and the speed reading seems to work. But it can also be just a random value that makes some sense, don't know how to actually confirm that.

 

so i recived my blade 1060 on 27/12 and i realy love it but after 1 day i started to notic that the fan noise is LOUD ( even when i have no windows open and closed alot off apps in the background, like googledrive ) so i installed the program said above, and it shows my fan speed is 9999% (some times even more). is it the programm that is just wrong> or did i fcked up the fan speed of my blade with a button that i pressed without knowing?

 

Im having the same problems. I had a brief moment (not really brief) in which I though my battery was dying, I spent over an hour diagnosing and then backing everything up for a windows restore, then I turned off the computer for like 10 minutes and it was solved. Later I realized it was the program as when I booted it up the battery showed up as "not present" again. We could probably fix this by changing the profile settings.

 

do you have the newest version?

 

Both of these problems are the result of erroneous addresses in the config file; you need different values for your systems. The ec controls a lot more than the fans, so writing values to incorrect addresses can result in all sorts of unexpected behaviour. You should really read the program's user manual first and use it to help you find the right settings.

The latest config files should be available here:
https://github.com/hirschmann/nbfc/tree/master/Configs

There are no version for any Razer system yet, so when you're certain all is well then take heed to mail the xml to the author:

Try forcing it by running a stress test.

 

I just don't get it.

All Razer blade 14" modells from 2013 to 2015, and probably the 2016 and 2017 use the same ITE chip.

Therefore the same registers.

It workes for me with the standart blade 2k16 config with regiser 80d as far as i remember.

I admit, i don't have a battery in it, but well ....
Maybe the word length is wrong ... ?

 

The same ec chip is used by all sorts of brand and models. It is a generic, off-the-shell part which each motherboard manufacturer implements to meet their specific needs. It is not likely, but the other models could be using different addresses or even different functions of the same chip.

My Clevos use the ec for fan control as well, but instead the fan's voltage is directly or indirectly hooked to one of the DAC pins (DAC3/GPJ3). The tachy/rpm from the fan go into the ec (TACH0/GPD6). This is a problem because these are non-programmable pins; there's a cpu temp : rpm (or cpu temp : voltage) lookup table in the ec's firmware which determines fan speed. Without access to that firmware the only alternative is spoofing the rpm signal or inserting a variable resistor in the fan's voltage wire. Unfortunately, neither option will bring automatically-continuously-variable-fan-speeds, which is what I'm after.

 

I have no idea how or why, but the fans now seem to be controllable via NBFC. Write register 88, Read register 87. Here's a revised profile. I would love for someone with more knowledge than me to improve upon this: https://www.mediafire.com/?vs22s703vf24dd3.

To clarify, I got this working for the Blade 2016 GTX1060. I know some other models were discussed in this thread.

 

This revised profile works very well on my Blade 1060, thanks a lot!

 

The revised profile has decimal register 88 as both read and write. Also, register 82, which is the 'on fan speed set' write register, has mostly the same values as 86 and 87. 82, 86, and 87 all three appear to be temperature sensor values of some sort. They correlate exactly with temperatures reported by ThrottleStop and HWInfo, and go up and down in when starting and stopping Prime95, for example. I see no other values changing when I toggle the cool/quiet modes in Razer Synapse. I'll try to proc monitor synapse and see if it can be traced what calls it makes when the toggle is switched.

 

Thank you for taking a look. I did indeed revise the profile based on the same findings. I don't know much (or anything, really) about this but I deduced that registers 86 and 87 are based on temperatures. I don't think there is a read & write for this fan as might be typical. It looks like fan speed is pegged to temperature. That is why I changed the read register to the same as the write register (88). I could be wrong about this of course.

I don't know if this is a coincidence or not, but setting the write value on register 82 gave me more consistent fan performance in my testing. I have a fully functional fan curve running right now (I will update the profile again in just a moment) so I am pretty pleased. I would of course be more pleased if Razer provided a real solution as opposed to this hacky solution.

On a final note, which may be disappointing to hear, the Razer Blade really never has a quiet fan profile. I think this has more to do with how the Blade pulls in or pushes out air for cooling. Even at 25% the fans have an audible whine, and it is also difficult to keep the machine cool at 25% fan speed even when simply browsing the internet. My GS63VR is dead silent except when gaming which I love.

 

Very happy this helped. I updated the profile again just now if you want to give it a try. I am an amateur, but this should give you a smoother fan curve. The thresholds are modified so the fan should gracefully speed up/slow down now.

 

I had also tried creating my own config file during past summer, but it looked like something had broken the tool somehow as even my own profile acted like OP one (battery disappearing for example); glad you updated the thread with this working profile.

Works great on RB 2015!

 

I think either a Windows or a Razer update is what fixed this. I messed with this for hours and gave up. Two days later I was preparing to return the computer and decided to give it one last attempt. When I opened the EC I found that many more values were editable than in my previous attempt. I'm pretty sure this points to an update so we are benefitting from lucky timing more than improved profiles.

 

Gotta update on the issue: it's still broke; it makes battery stop charging or just gives a wrong read from time to time (showed 104(?)% battery charge, while after unpluggin it now shows 73%).

Looks like there's something too ""cabled"", EC values wise... Seems like writing a fan speed also forces something power wise, sadly.

 

I don't think this is related to the profile. I had the exact same problem but before I even began messing with NBFC. It's in my original review of the Blade. Try resetting your computer. Somehow this problem solved itself on my computer. I can confirm that I have endured 0 battery or hibernation issues since installing NBFC (those seem to be the most common concerns people raise).

 

Hey Guys,

This is a new profile that's an upgrade to the 10% fan noise for the GTX1060 Razer Blade fan profile. This one edits TWO fans, and is significantly quieter than the 10% one. Also after 48hrs, it doesn't seem to cause any hibernation or battery issues (fingers crossed). If you're coming from Razer's default bioscurve, this will definitely help you out. As expected, the fan curve is fairly optimized for gamers, with relative silence up to 45c. For those that want the machine to stay silent under moderate load (productivity work), change the curve to start ramping around 60c, and that should help.

Link:
http://www.megafileupload.com/cq0k/Razer_Blade_GTX1060.xml

Enjoy!

 

I'm eager to try this. Can you host it on a site where it's actually downloadable (the file, not 46 different kinds of malware, that seems to want to download fine).

 

Bit the bullet for you.

http://pastebin.com/5wMFcR33

 

Still troublesome if used in a RB 2015 altho same controller, fml.

 

Yeah I'll host on on dropbox later tonight, but it doesn't work on the RB2015 don't attempt lol!

 

It's the same controller with the same R/W tbh.

 

I know but the 2015 profile seems to cause issues for the 1060 due to battery overwrites.

 

New link: http://www.filedropper.com/razerbladegtx1060

 

Hi,

Using that profile causes my Blade to shut down randomly. Any thoughts as to why this is?

 

This saved me from returning an otherwise very nice laptop. Thanks very much for sharing.
Edit: will now return as only works without problems when using power adaptor.

 

Hi does anyone know if this will also work on the alienware 17 r4?

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Same here, though only a problem when on battery power. I've now started the process to return the machine

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Would not recommend people to use this anymore. People are having issues with NBFC messing up their BIOS and causing performance issues among other things. See: https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/new-razer-blade-2016-gtx-1060-fan.17617/page-18

 

You can use hwinfo but make sure EC support is disabled.
HWinfo is safe since it only alter the fanspeed value temporarily, no need for NBFC.

 

I'm having similar hibernation/battery issues as mentioned previously. Has anyone gotten this to work without those issues?

 

Razer has released a firmware update that will adjust the timing and speed of the fans on the RB 2016 (GTX1060).
Please be sure to read the PDF installation instructions before proceeding with the update.
http://dl.razerzone.com/support/Blade142016B5/Razer_Blade_2016_GTX1060_Fan_Curve_FWU.zip

Make sure your machine is plugged in.
Close synapse and all other applications.
Model numbers supported:
RZ09-01952E31-xxxx
RZ09-01952E32-xxxx
RZ09-01952E33-xxxx
RZ09-01952E71-xxxx
RZ09-01952E72-xxxx
RZ09-01952E73-xxxx

 

Can anyone upload the config file? The main download has been expired
I desperately need the config file to run the program, my temps are over 95 degrees

 

Reposted in the other thread in which you had asked!