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    Razer Blade 14 Maximum Display Output

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by sherifone, Aug 17, 2013.

  1. sherifone

    sherifone Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can any Razer Blade 14 owners chime in on what the real-world maximum resolution output is? The specs are contradictory, HDMI 1.4a supports 4k resolutions, and so does the GTX 765m... but the spec sheet says 1080p. I would hope Razer chose not to save a few bucks and let this port function at its best. I have seen some anecdotal evidence in forums that it might be supported, but with some issues.

    Perhaps one of you has plugged this bad by into an 27" Apple Cinema Display or some other cool 1440p IPS display? This would seal the deal for me and I would immediately order it as my desktop replacement.

    Thanks so much for your time guys! This notebook looks amazing.
     
  2. Wapochief

    Wapochief Notebook Consultant

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    Using a HDMI cable I had laying around, I could only get 1080p out of it to my 1440p monitor. Donno if I need a newer cable or what.
     
  3. sherifone

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    It definitely needs an HDMI 1.4a cable, I think there is some revisions they made to have it support Ethernet and higher resolutions over the cable. I really appreciate your looking into it though. Hopefully someone has one laying around :)

    Razer support couldn't give me a clear answer unfortunately.
     
  4. baii

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    I think the display need to be 1.4a capable as well?
     
  5. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    it does .
     
  6. Tech17

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    Pretty sure they cannot prevent (at the hardware level) using the manufactures specifications.
    Here ya go!
    GeForce GTX 765M | Specifications | GeForce

    Display Support:
    H.264, VC1, MPEG2 1080p video decoder -Yes
    LCD eDP 1.2 support - Up to 3840x2160
    LCD LVDS support - Up to 1920x1200
    VGA analog display Support - Up to 2048x1536
    DisplayPort Multimode Support - Up to 3840x2160
     
  7. baii

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    The gpu (the chip to be exact) is never the problem. It is the out interface and the end unit display.
     
  8. sherifone

    sherifone Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have been doing an incredible amount of research and the best active adapters I can find tap out at 1900x1200. Looks like there is no way, currently, to plug this laptop into an Apple Cinema Display (or similar) until someone releases an active HDMI 1.4 to DL-DVI or Mini DisplayPort adapter.

    That just leaves 1440p monitors that have built in HDMI 1.4 port, and these Razer Blade's don't have missing circuitry/pins, etc.. Hope someone has one of these rare monitors and a 1.4a cable!
     
  9. sherifone

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    I'd totally kick you a few bucks for a YouTube video of that plugged in to your 1440p screen with an HDMI 1.4a cable. Lol.
     
  10. Wapochief

    Wapochief Notebook Consultant

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    My monitor is the Auria from microcenter. I think it is HDMI 1.4 compatible. Anyone know for sure before I plunk out some cash on a new unneeded cable?

    Sorry for the late reply - been out of town.
     
  11. b0gd4n

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    I've googled the monitor you had, and one of the reviewers said:


    Since I found the monitor can display 2560x1440 with the new hdmi 1.4 cable, I will probably return the displayport cable. If I had known this monitor can display high resolution with the new hdmi 1.4, I could have bought a cheaper graphics card which does not provide displayport.

    So please let us know how it goes.

    Also please let us know about the refresh rate the blade manages to output at what resolution and also how stable it is at 1440p.

    Thanks!
     
  12. sherifone

    sherifone Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wapochief you happen to give it a go with the HDMI 1.4a cable? It would be glorious if we could power larger monitors, I just need to be sure before I run out and buy a fancy screen :)
     
  13. anytimer

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    Shouldn't we be looking at the nVidia spec sheets for the 735M (or whatever GPU the Razer 14" is using)? Pretty sure Razer hasn't put in any limits from their side, so whatever the GPU can do, the Blade 14" should be able to do too.
     
  14. Wapochief

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    I only see 1080p and lower offered in the control panel. Do I need to do something special to see other options?
     
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    well...that sucks... I was really hoping that with a HDMI 1.4a cable and a capable monitor it would output higher res.. :(
     
  16. sherifone

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    They really should have just went with Mini DisplayPort and gave a free HDMI adapter with it. Looks like something to ask for Razer Blade 14 R2... This would be such an excellent desktop replacement.

    Still worth investigating whether this is a software limitation... Sometimes you can force resolutions via the control panel.
     
  17. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    if you are going for mDP just go for thunderbolt and we have a deal
     
  18. b0gd4n

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    so you got a hdmi 1.4a cable, and you can't get >1080p res out of it?
     
  19. Wapochief

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    Turns out the cable I had was HDMI 1.4 + ethernet, I just didn't know it. I tried it again, and only saw up to 1080p offered in the screen resolution.
     
  20. sherifone

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    Might be able to force the resolution in the nvidia control panel. It's worth a go!
     
  21. b0gd4n

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    DisplayLink introduces a bit of lag and reduces the quality. Especially at 1440p. - Though I just found some info on how to override the default 1080p resolution (via HDMI).

    Go into the drivers folder, there is a file called CustomModeApp.exe. You can change the resolution there, should be able to change it to 2560x1440p @ 29Hz.

    Source:
    https://communities.intel.com/thread/43713

    Let us know how it goes Wapo, that should do the trick if this laptop is capable of it.
     
  23. Wapochief

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    No go. The resolution stays at 1080p when I hit apply, even though it acts like it switched to 1440p.
     
  24. sherifone

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    Bummer :(

    I managed to get my Blade to connect to a 16:10 1920x1200 24" Apple Cinema Display, so at least it can do some single link level stuff. Had to use an active Kanex XD adapter, but it looked good.
     
  25. Viralistic

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    I just got my Razer Blade today, as well as an Asus 24" 1920x1200 Display. I got it working at full res right off the bat. All I had to do was change the settings from dual display to only secondary and it automatically switched to the native resolution of the display. I am using a HDMI 1.4 cable.
     
  26. b0gd4n

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    that's great, but we're a bit more interested in 1440p.
     
  27. Rockin_Zombie

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    I've the W230st, but considering the internals are same, I think you have to have a compatible monitor. Did anyone try with the monitor I have (Asus PB278Q)? I didn't have to do anything to output 1440p, it comes up by default.
     
  28. Xeneize

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    I tried it with both the Dell u2711 and the Dell u3014... works perfect on both with HDMI
     
  29. b0gd4n

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    wait, you tried the Blade 14 with the 2 dells and you got 1440p output to them?
     
  30. Rockin_Zombie

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    Beware, the dell U2713HM is a no go AFAIK.
     
  31. Xeneize

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    Sorry for the confusion... no, they work ONLY at a max of 1080p, I didn't even try to go higher prior to your question. I can extend both displays or just use the Dell but only at 1080p. Does the 765 NOT support resolutions higher than 1080p?
     
  32. Rockin_Zombie

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    It has nothing to do with the 765m (actually HD4400 since that's what outputs the final image) and everything to do with the monitors. Unless Razer crippled the HDMI and its not 1.4, but I highly doubt it. Check this:

    U2713HM via HDMI will only do 1920x1080 by design - Monitors Forum - Peripherals - Dell Community

    As I said before, the Asus PB278Q will probably work, since it works with my w230st.

    If you are adventurous, you can try this with the dell monitors:

    http://translate.google.com/transla...600-ueber-HDMI-ansteuern.89837.0.html&act=url

    I was able to get 1440p even out of an HD3000 following this trick, albeit at a refresh rate of 55HZ. Good luck
     
  33. Bokeh

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    Works well with the Dell U3014 via HDMI. 2560x1600 looks great.
     
  34. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    really? really? I don't think I might wait for the r2
     
  35. Xeneize

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    How did you get it to work? How can you force the Nvidia card to achieve this?
     
  36. Bokeh

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    I just plugged it in and it worked. Running a completely stock Blade build. The only updates were the Nvidia drivers to the newest ones.

    Just make sure you set the video to 2nd monitor only. Disable the internal one with Fn F4.

    Will get a screenshot for you.
     
  37. b0gd4n

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    wait...so you are saying that you linked your Blade 14 to the Dell U3014 and it worked straight away at 1600p???
     
  38. Bokeh

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    Yes it did.

    Make sure you are using the right HDMI cables -
    As of the HDMI 1.4 specification, these are the following cable types defined for HDMI in general:[124][125]

    Standard HDMI Cable – up to 1080i and 720p
    Standard HDMI Cable with Ethernet
    Automotive HDMI Cable
    High Speed HDMI Cable – 1080p, 4K, 3D and deep color
    High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet

    And the screenshot -

    [​IMG]
     
    anytimer and sherifone like this.
  39. Xeneize

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    Ok thank you. What drivers did you upgrade to? My Nvidia Experience doesn't show new drivers for me....
     
  40. Bokeh

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    Version:
    327.23 WHQL

    Release Date:
    2013.09.19

    Operating System:
    Windows 8 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, Windows 7 64-bit

    Language:
    English (U.S.)

    File Size:
    235 MB
     
  41. b0gd4n

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    any probs with the new driver?
     
  42. Bokeh

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    None so far.
     
  43. sherifone

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    Thanks for confirming this! Seemed so crazy that it would be limited to 1080p in 2013... I have been looking at replacing my Apple Cinema Display with something matte and was holding off for some good news like this.

    I'll start looking into Dell 27" Displays since they seem to do better with HDMI.
     
  44. e4chan

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    Anyone have success with the Dell u2711 monitor - 1440p?

    I am able to get the Dell u3014 monitor to get 1600p.....just can't get the u2711 to display 1440p.

    e4
     
  45. baii

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    U2711 HDMI do not support anything higher than 1080p/1200p.a u2713h (not hm) is said to work though.

    Some people have some success using custom resolution using custom resolution utility or nvidia driver, but i wouldn't count on it.
     
  46. e4chan

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    Baii,

    Is there anyway to get higher resolution on the u2711? HDMI to displayport or something?
     
  47. e4chan

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    Anyone? I am trying to make a decision for work, and if I have a useless monitor that can't display full resolution, then I will need to consider my options.

    If it exist - would HDMI to displayport work?

    Can use anyone's advice.

    Thanks.
     
  48. lukaskt

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    If this is any help, the Blade can drive ultra wide resolutions, 2560x1080, through HDMI


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  49. e4chan

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    Thanks...I know it can drive the resolution...as I said in my original post, the 30" Dell U3014 works at 2560x1600.

    I just can't get the 27" Dell U2711 to work. But doing additional research has uncovered that it has more to do with the monitor using HDMI than the blade.

    To summarize, I may need to go the custom resolution route and override the current configuration.

    Let me know if anyone else has this specific configuration.

    Cheers,
    E4
     
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    Is there an HDMI to DVI adapter that you can try?
     
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