Hey everyone I just want to start this thread by saying WOW! Razer has been really stepping it up every year, I am really impressed with the latest iteration of the Razer blade 14. With that being said I am extremely satisfied with my current Razer blade 14' and have no intention of trading up this year.
Anyone else in the same boat?
I can afford it, and initially planned on selling my current blade for the newer version. However I just feel a 20% performance bump, with a 4k screen in which I will never use past 1080p when gaming isn't all that practical....
I have a dedicated gaming PC at home, and use my razer blade only for gaming when I am on the road or have friends over and feel my 765m will last me just fine at 1600x900 for another year.
What do you fellow Razer Blade 14'' owners think?
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Yeah, I pre ordered the new one and am having second thoughts if it is really worth it...
I think I will keep the pre order though as my main complaint is that for normal windows use the screen really bothers me.
Pretty sure I will still game at 900p though to avoid pixel blur while maintaining a nice smooth frame rate.
If I had more sense in agree not really enough of a performance boost to justify -
Not a owner of old one but i preorder the new one. I agree with you OP. In your shoes i would wait for maxwell high end update... But i will trade up again and i know it s not good.. It can t be helped
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Well the screen is more than some extra pixels
Beter contrast,better colors, better viewing angels. I should upgrade for the display alone considering how bad the 2013 was IF I could afford it to buy a new 2500$ notebook every year.(which is def. NOT)
You dont have to game on 3840x2160, but you can, older games can be run on that res.
Also the GPU is more like 50-60% faster,
and the display is now edge 2 edge (no dust between notebook and panel you cant remove)
So I think it is a bigger upgrade than you think (display is one of the most import things for me)
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I just bought the my blade 14 a few weeks ago. I'd love to trade up but I really don't like the idea of spending that much money for a better screen and GPU. Especially right now when we're not sure how battery life is compared to current, and if the drives are the m.2 then that severely limits drive choices/capacity at this point. I think I will keep mine for a while and if possible, skip a gen of blade 14.
I played GW2 all weekend on ultra and it worked great. In game I had no issues with the screen and the blade never missed a beat. No lockups or heat caused problems after long game sessions. Razer might be expensive, but I still believe they build a very good product. -
I have a 2013 14". I pre-ordered a 2014 14". They had me at IGZO.
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I decided I am going to upgrade from the previous gen Razer Blade as well. Outside of gaming, the screen really bothered me because I do some video editing on it and watch movies. You really have to be at the sweet spot angle which is very small the entire time.
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My original thought was like DAMM ! I just bought my Razer Blade now they release a new one ?! I called Razer to see if I can excahnge it but i was past my 14 day period. After some thought it's prob not worth the price to upgrade at-least for another generation or if the screen is not doable for you. I've always been a early adopter but I suppose I'm learning some patience. The current Blade is still a beast.
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If you can sell your 1st gen Razer 14 for at least 75% or more of its original value and you have the money with the added cost on the 2nd gen Razer 14 then it's definitely worth it. Remember this is not about the 1800p resolution since I would have preferred it to be 1080p instead but the quality of the display on the new one is way way better, IPS panel, way better contrast ratio, brightness, black value cd/m, and color gamut coverage.
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I am in the same boat as most of you are. I purchased my blade in Feb 2014. I was already on the fence about not getting it due to the bad reviews of the screen, but I decided to get it anyways. Now I see that they came out with the new blade with the screen that I really wanted to have in the 2013 model so I found myself also pre-ordering and now i'm hoping to sell the one I have for at least 75% of the value. The 2013 Blade is awesome albeit the screen, but the new 2014 just puts the Blade into a whole new level IMO. I definitely keeping my pre-order.
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The only company I know of with a trade up program is eVGA. -
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I just bought a f150 last year, am I expecting Ford to now trade me up to the new aluminum f-150?
When Razer initially released the Razer Blade with the 555m, and than released an updated version with the 660m which was LEAPS AND BOUNDs faster. They did compensate customers which was very generous on their behalf.
Anyone whom knows ANYTHING about mobile release schedules, could of told you not to buy a laptop in Q1 2014. As whether its razer or another competitor, their will be a new laptops with faster mobile cards released months/weeks later.... -
Also if it had been six months from purchase I wouldn't have cared.
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Nobody is to blame for you being an uninformed buyer other than yourself..... -
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Enjoy what you have, your laptop is no less powerful just because a new machine is out there. Fact is all laptops are slow compared to my gaming PC, doesn't make gaming laptops any less effective.
Now with all due respect, this is my thread and you have taken it way off topic. Go throw you tantrum somewhere else, please and thank you. -
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I feel that IF top performance is that important to someone buying something not on day one is doing it wrong, because it's always going to be outdated in a number of months... -
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I just bought mine a few weeks ago and I'm sure not upset at Razer. I WANT them to keep refreshing things and coming out with new ones.
Do we know much about the SSD config? It is confirmed to have 2 usable slots? When will a 1TB M.2 be released? These would be my biggest concerns.
Also I’m curious about battery life, since it’s bigger/heavier I would not want to give up any battery life either.
Will it use the same power supply? I ask because I'm sure a bunch of us have multiple supplies already and it would be nice not to have to buy them all over again. Plus I loved the standard style connection, and firmness of it so it doesn't fall out. -
If I had, I for sure wouldn't expect them to let me return it full price. If they somehow do, consider it crazy and the nicest thing a company has ever done for anyone. Then you publicize that Razer did this for you and everyone that bought one expects Razer to eat costs because they can't be bothered to do some basic research.
This is on you, not Razer. -
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Since it's needed, this is a reminder for everyone, to abide by the forum rules. That means no insults, whether overt or veiled. If you are getting insulted, report it rather than starting throwing insults back.
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You know, I can see his point though. Wouldn't you be rather upset if after days your $2,500 laptop is now out of date? I understand some brand loyalty where you yourself might not be upset, but to someone who isn't Razer brand loyal it could be quite upsetting.
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Besides, his notebook isn't "out of date".. The 2013 model is still formidable, apparently the buyer wanted it. A new model coming out doesn't automatically obsolete the old one. If the display is an issue, there are at least 20 high profile reviews since July 2 of last year speaking very truthfully about the weaknesses of the 2013 blade. -
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By Razer's standards it is out of date since you cannot buy it any longer. While there is some truth of the "still formidable" excuse, it's more of a Corp. excuse for charging the customer full price for an old model. The 20% for EDU was also a poor excuse for Public Relations. Because most people that can afford to buy one aren't in college. As much as I dislike Apple, that would be something good for Razer to have a refurb/outlet store. It wouldf give people more options which would in turn make Razer more money. I'm all for the refurb/outlet idea. Think about how many more people could afford to buy one if you could get a factory refurb for let's say, $500 less and instead of a full year warranty make it a 6 month warranty for refurbs?
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Back on topic, I think the power supply is the same, possibly the same plug too form the pictures and what little info we have. Meaning if you have 3 power bricks (as I do) you could keep the extra two and still have 3 if you choose to upgrade.
Assuming that both M2 slots are available for SSD's, what's anyones guess if these work or would they be wrong size? http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-M500-480GB-6Gbps-Internal/dp/B00HBKM6UO I am completely unfamiliar with the M2 standards. This would mean you could buy the 128GB and upgrade yourself to 960GB for the same price as the 512, plus you end up with an extra 128GB SSD.
Battery life is still unknown, could be about the same but my worry is if it's below 90% of what the 2013 got.
Here's what I've come up with:
2014 pros:
better screen
better GPU
2014 cons:
slightly larger and heavier
less drive choices (don't think there is a 1TB available yet like there are in mSATA)
heat or noise certainly has to be more, maybe both. (100W GPU vs a 75W 765m)
2014 possible cons (in other words, unknown now):
worse battery life (just a guess, it's really not known yet)
possible throttling? I sure hope not, I never have noticed any throttling on mine, like I have many times in past on other small gaming notebooks
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You and me both.
it's taking a decent amount of willpower to sit tight and wait for reviews, but it's the smart choice.
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Me 3, and I feel the same. I feel battery life & the heat should suck a bit more at the cost of performance. Cmon reviews come already. When do the venders or sites get them to review?
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Anyways getting back on topic, I can't wait for reviews to challenge that 50% additional performance comment. I really don't think the 870m will be 40-50% better than the 765m... but I can be proven wrong.
In either case I stick with my statement that the 3k screen is a bit perplexing in a laptop which is supposed to be focused on gamers. I have no quams about paying the higher price tag, and if I didnt already have my blade I would likely be jumping at this product. However despite my denial, I finally came to the conclusion that a gaming ultra-book can not be a dedicated gaming pc. As much as I tried with my blade, I realized that a gaming PC was much more practical than using my blade for gaming while at home.
However I travel frequently and I absolutely LOVE my blade for gaming on the go, and for those purposes my current generation suits me fine. It's an easy decision for me to wait a year or two before upgrading.
For the record I am a professional whom earns a large income, so the cost of the upgrade is not a factor for any means in this decision. I just not hat excited about a 3k touch screen display, more so I would be excited about the upgrade in graphics processing. Yet I will wait for reviews and benchmarks until I finalize my opinion on this matter. -
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Goodbye.
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I don't understand how people could be upset. It doesn't change what you bought or how much money you spent. The 2013 Blade isn't obsolete, by any means. There's just a more expensive one with more features, as there is with almost everything else in the world. Then again, the "I must have the best" attitude never made sense to me either
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Glad that guy was banned, there is a reason why we have these forums so you can know before buying whats out there and whats down the pipe. As everyone else I am anxiously waiting on some hands on reviews of the new 14 before if I decide to bit or not.
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This was THE reason not to buy it.
If I spend 2000$, I want to have a good screen, period.
the 2014 upgrade is quite big
Advantages:
- MUCH better gpu
- Display PPI, contrast, colors are excellent. This is huge, not just a minor upgrade
- M2 ssd, if PCI could get speeds past 800MB/s vs 500MB/s
- Touchpanel, yes it is usefull if you run windows 8
- Better sound (?)
Disadvantages:
- Will probably get a lot warmer (GPU cores are doubled compared to the GTX765M) since the case is still the same thickness
- Probably noisier since it has to cool a lot more cores and a bigger die
- Less battery life while gaming
- Throttle? (150W adapter included, GTX870M rated at 100W and CPU at 47W, so not much is left for SSD, RAM, ports, etc)
I really dislike the disadvantages, since i hate burning, noisy laptops.
But on the other hand the GPU and display are soooooo much better compared to prev gen..
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Anyone looking for a very nice, 3 week old 512GB 2013 model, very well taken care of! "Pretested" so you know it's free of any factory defects!Hookerlips likes this. -
The small number of people saying the new Blade runs hotter and louder are running benchmarks that strain the machine for all it's worth. Probably native resolution (3k) and super high setting benchmarks. Although to be honest the 2013 Blade is really quiet, and saying it's louder could still mean it's very below the average of fan noise. If you run games at 900p instead of 1080p or 3k, it'll also most likely be less warm than they've said so far as well.
I had some questions typed out to help you decide between the two versions, but I can tell you won't be happy with the 2013 version at all. I'm not sure why you're considering it still. I had the 2013 version in my hands for all of 15 minutes before I packed it back up and sent an e-mail for a refund because of that screen. So here's what you do: Wait for the 2014 version, order it, play your favorite games on it and see if it gets too hot/loud for your liking. Razer has a 14 days money back guarantee on all systems, so just tell them it's too hot or loud and they'll refund all your money (minus the shipping charge to send it back).
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It will still work as much. Doubling resolution, doesnt mean the load being doubled. I will just run at a lower framerate.
I worry about heat since the 2013 was already quite hot
I dont own one, but up to 50C on notebookcheck, although extremely nice idle temps.
But I already own an HP Envy15 (2010) which also uses an metal casing and temps I have now, are max i want. Hotter would be annoying (pe when its a 35C summerday)
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Hope all is well for you CSHawkeye81!
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Personally, the heat wont be a problem for me as long as it doesn't throttle the machine. That's all I can ask for when it delivers so much already
Razer Blade 14 - Not worth the Trade up
Discussion in 'Razer' started by Nick11, Mar 18, 2014.