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    Razer Battery Quality?

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by codeHusky, Jun 19, 2021.

  1. codeHusky

    codeHusky Notebook Guru

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    I've spent a fair bit of time online and within communities elsewhere chatting with folks and have yet to reach any conclusive stance on the matter. Does Razer actually have a battery quality problem? It seems like every post with someone sharing a bloated battery gets a few responses of "same thing happened to me", which for devices only a year or two old seems a little odd to me.

    Some folks have suggested that the unevenly sized cells in the Razer batteries contributes to uneven wearing of certain cells and early failure, but since the batteries aren't strictly in parallel I can't imagine this is the case. Unless, well, maybe it is and I'm missing something important.

    Another thing I've seen mentioned is that Razer's battery management is really poor and just keeps the battery constantly at 100%, even if the device has been plugged in for days. Ideally the laptop should be allowing the batteries to discharge to around 95% (or even just have a battery health mode for that) to prevent the cells from getting cranky and venting from the high charge while being practically stored indefinitely. This could be a pretty simple firmware fix in some way, who knows.
    From a Razer support post however:
    Regardless, does anyone have any conclusive info on this matter or is it worth investigating further?

    Also, hoping I didn't miss an already existing thread regarding this but a quick search didn't yield anything.
     
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  2. wireproof

    wireproof Notebook Guru

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    I mean, batteries hate hot temperatures and my laptop CPU runs 95+’C and GPU runs at 70-80’C when gaming, and when mining Ethereum I have it running way lower temps with under volt and BIOS modifications (70-75’C for CPU and GPU). That’s with my 2020 Razer Blade 15 Advanced and I’ve had it for a little over a year now. Battery is swelling and causing issues with the track pad and a new battery on Amazon costs $80, so not the end of the world. My worry is the battery with cause the back casing screws to strip through with the battery bulging out but that’s what GeekSquad is for (with my luck they’d upgrade my 2070 to the 3070 model)


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  3. codeHusky

    codeHusky Notebook Guru

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    Realistically, high CPU/GPU temperatures should not result in high battery temperatures. They're far away from the battery on most models I'm familiar with, unless the heatsink is doing a horrid job and just letting the entire laptop heat up lol.

    If you're leaving the laptop on the charger all the time with it mining Ethereum and just gaming when it's not, I could see that being particularly straining on the battery regardless.
     
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    Razer using cnc aluminum unibody with lesser heat output like other gaming laptops, on some cases cpu gpu temperature might impact battery temperature since the heat will remain longer if the dissipation works slow. My 2018 model finally bloated after 3 years gaming usage, but maybe it’s also due last couple months, or maybe year since pandemic I mostly plugged it on the wall at home. But yeah if there’s battery charging limitation like other brands like to 80% it might also wear it slower and avoid possibility of battery bloat maybe.
     
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    That’s something I’d be happy to experiment with but haven’t looked into yet, as far as limiting the total charge. I’d leave mine between 70-80% since it stays plugged in 24/7 and currently using as a Ethereum mining computer and gaming laptop when I get home from work so the temps stay at least between 70-80’C at all times. I’ve thought about removing the battery but figured that’s not very practical for being a “laptop” just wish it was easier like the older computers with 18650 batteries VS lithium polymer packs.


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    razer including a charge limiter to 80% in synapse would likely help somewhat.
     
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  7. codeHusky

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    This is true but I'd imagine it would be less with the advanced models and their superior cooling methods. The metal on the bottom should be kept somewhat cool by air being pulled through the vents.
    Would love it if Razer just rolled out this change sometime soon. Hopefully their existing hardware impl allows for that.
     
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    I think all notebooks should have the charge limiter feature, but particularly gaming laptops since they tend to be plugged in when gaming and get very hot.
     
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