Purchased new Razer Blade Stealth 13 - Major Panel Ghosting

So I have a question for all of you. I got a Razer Blade Stealth 13 - 1650 on Amazon recently. I loved it for the first day. The second day I started playing some games and I had a lot of ghosting and just very low response times. I've been reading around trying to get a feel for if that's just the nature of this panel or not. I'd really like to get one of these again but I don't want to end up with another ghosty display. I got the model with the 1080p panel and read that the 4k panel isn't much better. Any help on this would be appreciated as I'd like to order again today if there is a chance I could get a decent panel.

 

There are no 13inch gamery panels on the market so you are kinda stuck with it.

 

I hear you. Man it’s such a great system otherwise. That’s a shame. Thanks for getting back.

 

No prob. It might change in the near future. 14inch gamin gpanels start to appear now and 16inch panels as well. They are barely used still but the focus might change. Especially after the 14inch Asus gaming laptop with a 144hz screen.

 

That's what I'm hoping for. The Specter x360 13" had an OLED screen which didn't have any ghosting on games. I would love for Razer to put that display into this product. This may not fit within the power budget though.

 

Low response time is great isn’t it?
What games to be specific? Upgraded from 2016 stealth yes I can notice ghosting on ufo test but on my games like fallen order or Red dead redemption2 it’s not noticeable, it because maybe I’m aiming 60fps, overwatch etc 144Hz I play on other Blade with 144Hz.

 

So while I'm not sensitive to a lower response time I am sensitive to blur. World of Warcraft was blurry but tolerable. Once I got into Diablo 3 and Wolf. Youngblood it was immediately apparent how much blur was going on. I have multiple laptops and I use them all for different things. I think the display is to the point that for me it is unusable for anything other than an MMO. That's just my take on it, not saying that everyone should agree.

I really didn't want to return it and started trying to justify away that "the display wasn't that bad" but at the end I just couldn't ignore it.

 

I see, yes on title like Youngblood and other shooting I’d also not using the internal display, after already getting used to Blade 15 144Hz screen. Maybe you should get bigger laptop with great screen, I use mostly stealth for work media consumption (the screen is softer I find that could keep my eyes fine for long time usage) and occasionally gaming (which’s huge improvement compared to any previous my ultrabook). If you need portability I think Asus g4 14 inch would come in March with rtx 2060/1660 ti and 120Hz, though it’s heavier and I think it doesn’t come with TB3 which are huge downside to me.

 

The G14 is what I've been eyeing. I'd carry that along with my a51m or my RZB15 OLED.

 

Damn you’ve great toys Can’t wait the reviews, since I think even MSI has issue to cool properly 1650maxq on 14 chassis, but it’s due a single fan, that one has dual.

 

Thanks. I believe the RZS 13 1650 is thicker than the MSI (along with dual fans) so both of those may help. I was trying to find something to carry along with my RZB15 but now that I just upgraded my ram in the A51m to 128GB I'm carrying that and my RZB15 in my rollerbag right now.

We will see what March brings!

 

If I may offer some of my thoughts - I have GS65 w/2060, Blade 15 w/2060, the new Stealth w/1650 and Carbon X1 6th.
1. I'm not sure if you had any MSI before, but since you have Razer, Alienware and Lenovo - the build quality may throw you off far more than any ghosting. Flexible chassis may not even be the worst offender, but using three screws to mount heatplates over CPU/GPU is. This causes uneven pressure, large variation in core temps = throttles much sooner than it should.
2. If you travel with two laptops, why both have to be of gaming type? My combo was RB15 + X1, Razer for gaming, Lenovo for ... ehm ... typing.
3. Ghosting on low power GPU is a blessing in disguise for me. You own some OLEDs - they have instantaneous response - now with low fps you see judder, stutter, the complete lack of blur which for me kills immersion in any 3d game since I can see razor sharp individual frames being rendered and replaced at new position. But that's for modern games, full screen 3d movement etc. I also like playing some old games in emulators, and in this case ghosting kills any arcade game if you used to how they look on a CRT.

I personally switched almost entirely to the Blade Stealth, I absolutely love that machine. Moved my desktop to other duties, have it docked at home with eGPU (minimal performance loss due to integrated TB in Ice Lake) and while travelling have it in a tiny bag that barely weights anything. I only take also the Blade 15 with me if I travel by car. I will not buy another laptop until Intel releases 6 core or more CPUs in 7nm with integrated TB, which looks like will not happen until 2021 at least.

 

Hey thanks for the perspective. A few thoughts of my own.
1. I plan on steering full clear of MSI laptops period. I've owned a few and not really willing to go back anytime soon.

2. I like to have backup devices of everything I carry. So if my a51m (or RZB15 depending what I'm carrying) die I'd like to have a backup option. That's why I'm possibly thinking about waiting on the G14. My work is going to refresh my hardware soon (and we get to keep what we get after the next refresh). One of the options is a Lenovo T490s which I may go with.

3. So I've looked at some videos of this laptop and some ghosting doesn't seem too bad. Low FPS judder bothers me much less than ghosting. Maybe the panels are different, but the ghosting I got on the unit I returned almost looked like an passive matrix LCD. A little bit of trail would be fine but this was almost like horrid VA black smear only it was every color. Maybe I should have rolled the dice again?

Weight isn't a huge concern as I'm using my Everki roller bag for when I'm on the road or plane. I initially thought of getting the weight down by just carrying one laptop and the 13" could have been that one. Maybe I should just stick with the 15"?

I have this 100w Razer usb-c power brick still on this table from a spare I ordered. It's tempting me to get the stealth another try.

 

I don't think you had defective panel, it is slow by every metric, but too me it's not that absolutely awful, kind of average among general use laptops - it should be comparable in response time to what you have in P50. I think you're used to fast panels in AW and RZB and sluggish one in RBS stands out. Do you have BestBuy nearby? - they have them on display, have a look and see if it makes any difference.

I backed a 100W charger at kickstarter, they continue campaign on indiegogo now: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hyperjuice-world-s-first-100w-gan-usb-c-charger/x/1825838#/

Looks pretty sweet, I should have it next month.

 

Well I can say this, while my P50 does have slight blur, it is by far much less than the Razer Blade Stealth. If I do end up trying to get one again I may go to a Best Buy and check it out. I imagine if all panels are like this then I'll probably just have to wait. The fact that the sale is over isn't helpful either.

 

Unfortunately the Blade Stealth does not offer a good screen for the stealth. Maybe if they offer OLED panels in the future it would fix the problem. The main idea behind the Stealth is to have a good on the go laptop for business and hook it up to an external gpu and monitor for gaming at home.

If you need something that can game also you’re kinda stuck going for a 15” model as they have better screens.

 

Yes put an Oled and be the world first 3 grand gaming ultrabook

 

Shh. They’ll hear you!