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    New Razer Blade & Razer Blade Pro

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by neoideo, May 30, 2013.

  1. neoideo

    neoideo Notebook Consultant

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    The Blade Pro only comes with 1 SSD. I wonder why the 2nd drive was removed since the dimensions are exactly the same as the R2.
     
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    The battery was increased from 60W to 74W.
     
  5. Hybrys

    Hybrys That Damn Cactuar!

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    Only a 765m? For that pricepoint? I'm unimpressed.
     
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    ryukenden Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm more interested in the 14" than anything. I just hope the display ain't one of those super glare type.
     
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    No, it has a multi-touch touchpad.
     
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    Hookerlips Notebook Evangelist

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    My wallet might be hurting with this
     
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    But you were impressed with the first razer with gt555m and the second with gtx 660m right? Lol
     
  10. GamingACU

    GamingACU Notebook Deity

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    765m and about $2000

    Does this mean we should expect the Clevo 230 refresh soon, for about 1/2 the cost and similar specs?
     
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    Yes and yes.

    And here's link to the Razer article someone threw out there from somewhere ($1800 base price with 128GB SSD): http://gizmodo.com/hell-yes-razer-made-the-most-powerful-small-windows-la-510358373

    I think it's a smart move by Razer, although the price is a bit prohibitive. The Clevo W230ST is due out likely end of June and should be comparably, perhaps better equipped since the Razer will likely house only 35W or ULV CPU's and the Clevo likely full 45W quad cores. Both have the 765m, but actual specs for that still TBD. The Razer if like the previous 17" models will not be able to be opened by the user or voids the warranty, so better equip it how you like it from Razer or forget about it. Clevo will be 13" instead of 14" and probably cost around $1000 base price without SSD.
     
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  13. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    has anyone noticed the presence of a 150w psu? Thats got a be a quad inside that thing, color me impressed and interested

    and they really continue painting the mbp in black with better internals... Conclusion they love rolling stones

    [​IMG]

    jesus it even looks like the rmbp inside
     
  14. dkris2020

    dkris2020 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm impressed with the 765m in the 14", wishing for a higher res screen though, or at least good color reproduction
     
  15. ryukenden

    ryukenden Notebook Evangelist

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    How much higher do you expect from a 14"? Most 14" out there are 1366 x 768 or lower.
     
  16. neoideo

    neoideo Notebook Consultant

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    furthermore, the 765M is a huge jump from the 660M, twice the number of cores at the same frequencies.
     
  17. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    most doesnt cut at that price point, simply put. I actually wanted IGZO in that beautiful 14, and a thunderbolt port, because them I could have all the ports that it doesnt have and more, if it had those 2, I would buy it in a heartbeat, off course as soon as I could get someone to get that laptop for me fro the US, Im currently extremely tempted
     
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    Kudos to them though, at least it's a powerful 14" notebook Windows competitor to Mac. Although it's also priced crazy high. Are those the system RAM chips embedded in the mainboard?
     
  19. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    It might also be GDDR, as the GPU is soldered on the motherboard. But why so many?
     
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    The GDDR would likely be next to the GPU. I say it's system RAM.
     
  21. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    you can see from the pic that they are, and exactly located on where the rmbp 13 ram is, have you saw the size of cooling backplate on the left side? I think its covering the vram


    Screen Shot 2013-05-31 at 8.53.19 AM.png

    click to expand, you can see better the size of the backplate

    I dont want to imagine what broadwell would bring to this babe, possibly 16gb at least of DDR4, with hopefully some thunderbolt goodness so I can overcome the lack of ports and maxwell or whatever amd is going to name the 9000m series

    in other words consider me trying hard to withhold purchasing this thing
     
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    Hybrys That Damn Cactuar!

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    I really wasn't. To call it a high end 17" gaming laptop, and stick a 555/660/765 in it is laughable for that price point, which could often earn you a 770m+.

    Also, when will people finally realize that the 765m is the new 660m. It's going to be the most common GPU, and you won't see much of the 760m I bet.

    The 14 inch, I'm a little bit more impressed by. But it defeats their price point justification by leaving out Switchblade. In the coming months, I bet you'll see an ASUS G47 with better specs, .5lb heavier, 1/4 inch thicker, and $700 less.
     
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    hockeymass that one guy

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    Razer's getting a lot closer to what I'd consider an actual gaming machine with this. The 765m is actually respectable, unlike the 555 that the original had.

    How will Broadwell bring 16GB of memory? What?
     
  25. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    i really doubt that the g47 is going to be just 0.5lbs heavier and 1/4inch thincker, really really doubt that. The current design is 2.5kg, i.e. 5.51lbs, not to mention the lateral and vertical sizes are much larger, can it be more powerful than the blade? hell yes, will it be? i dont know really now. Will it be more flexible in terms of what you get? yes, without a doubt
     
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    insanely beautiful..and priced! i dont like embedded ddr banks but it's a great choice for portability needs, i'm moving in that direction so i find this product very interesting, don't know overall quality of this brand, i assume high level...
    I'm following Msi GE40 as alternative, maybe in future there will be also a configurable barebone but price is very different...
     
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    Irritating when people bring in "what you could get for the same price." We understand that, for the price, you could get more power. BUT the reason we are looking at laptops such as the Blade is because of the form factor and appearance as well as system performance. If an ugly, massive, heavy, and cheap feeling laptop was what I wanted, I would buy a Clevo or Asus. But, since I value portability, looks, and materials/build quality as much as performance, I couldn't be paid to buy one of those. Let us look at shiny Razers and Alienwares without constantly being reminded how "we could get so much more in a cheaper Clevo"


    yes, you can get more hp out of a supra with a massive turbo, but it still wont have the look, feel and quality of an audi r8.

     
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    I have the first two Blades and an Edge Pro. I'll be up at 3.01am EDT on June 3rd to pre-order the 14" Blade. Will probably skip the Blade Pro since I can add more disk space to my existing Blade R2 if I wanted to and the 660M is fine for me.
     
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    what a rip off for $1800, i could get a 10lbs super laptop SLI ! :cool:
     
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    That said...Anybody want to sell a Blade 1 or 2?

    I just want a 17" in a thin package and don't care for graphics...
     
  31. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    you know the blade might actually be the first product that im interested from razer
     
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    Or you could look at it as getting same performance for half the price? Sort of like getting a Corvette engine and transmission in a Malibu. And like if you want a Corvette but they decide to price it at $80k instead of $50k. I don't begrudge people for wanting something like the Razer laptops, I find them very nice looking, but you can't deny the fact that the pricing is quite high comparatively. You can get a similarly equipped notebook for about $1000-$1200, especially looking at the upcoming Clevo W230ST 13" with 1080p screen, backlit keyboard, quad core CPU, and also 765m, likely similar weight but probably slightly thicker. Also portability is not poor in many Clevo laptops nor is build quality. Obviously it's up to each person what they're willing to spend on looks, but for many I think performance is more important.

    If the Razer 14" was $1500 with 256GB SSD I would probably strongly consider buying it. But as it is, it prices it out of my budget. The other thing that bothers me is the fact that you can't even swap out the SSD. Hopefully pricing is fair on their end for SSD upgrade, otherwise you could end up spending $2500 for the laptop with a 512GB SSD.
     
  33. Karamazovmm

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    well its pretty clear a mSATA slot, so you can put a m500 on it or the PM841, the latter probably comes with it

    But I wont deny that this is a good looking laptop, with the annoyances that I already voiced on things lacking, I think its priced against the rmbp, without offering some of its strengths which at that price should easily be able to be integrated.

    I like it, but it costs a lot of moola.
     
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    Its a shame this laptop is nearly perfect. It is overpriced though, I'd expect something greater than a TN screen for 2499. As a gamer I don't need/want retina like resolution but I would like something greater than a TN screen. Having owned a rMBP its retina resolution was nothing more than a pain as anything other than the panels native resolution looked fuzzy (and its resolution/2 was too low resolution for the type of games I like to play that usually feature a UI). A nice 1920x1080 IPS would have been perfect and well worth 2499.
     
  35. Karamazovmm

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    I would prefer IGZO displays, high quality panel, IPS and since it comes with such a high pixel count you can just put at half the res and its fine for gaming so 1600*900
     
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    I think the screen will be fine. I really like the 14" option.
     
  37. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    just by looking at the thinness it makes me think the dreaded screen of the thinkpad x1 carbon, or the one in the folio or the t431s, which i think are all the same horrible screen
     
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    Hmmm has the 765M been released (in other laptops) yet? I'd like to know how the gaming performance of the 14" Razer compares to the Y400 with the 750M SLI.
     
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    Dat poor 2000's screen solution.
     
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    Nope, the Y400 should perform better for gaming. I have absolutely nothing to base that on other than the fact that 2GPU's generaly perform better than single GPU set ups. Saying that I would never get and SLI laptop and prefer a single more powerful card .

    This shows you some game benchmarks for the GTX 765M if you scroll down:

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

    It's a pretty good card capable of playing every game at the RAZER's native res.
     
  41. Karamazovmm

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    I disagree, i also dont have any significant benchies and its just a extrapolation of the 650m sli number, they should perform largely the same, since the 765m exists in the middle of the 670mx and 675mx, which I must be right, since my cat agrees with me and he is never wrong

    however no one in their right mind would buy 2 mid range gpus in sli, simple as that, you got more issues for setting up games, micro stuttering... For me the idea of an ultrabay gpu is quite fine, and I want it, but to sli is a terrible idea, put that available in the thinkpad range and you will sell tons of higher grade higher margin notebooks

    PS: you know one interesting thing? people always complained that the razer blades were always underpowered machines (its still valid on the 17), but with the 14 they raised the bar really high for others to follow, I can only think that only msi and clevo will be up to offering the same power, not the same quality though, specially on that msi
     
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    Like I said I have nothing to base it on other than the It was an educated guess and if your cat agrees who am I to doubt that. ;)
    Anyway I was thinkiing they would only slightly be better and not blow it out of the water.
    And yes Razer did a great job with the 14" model, man It would be great to have one.
     
  43. Karamazovmm

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    Yeah, I actually contacted a reseller already to see when I can get one, Im caving in, my will is in shambles and rome 2 is coming, my heart aches with the possible hole in my pocket

    time to do some math, [2200 price + (40 bank transfer + 60 shipping)] * 60% tax + 2300 * 10% aduana = 3910 * 2 conversion rate = my heart really aches

    now that I did the math, my resolve is strong and I will wait for broadwell and get one when someone/or me I know is in the US, to avoid paying those ridiculous taxes
     
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    Ok hypothetical situation: Money is no object and I have a choice between the Razer Blade with 512gb, or the Razer Blade Pro with 512gb. I never really use Ethernet and I use the VGA cable but only cause I have HDMI for my PS3. Basically it boils down to do you want a compact and portable gaming laptop, or do you want a higher res display with more screen real estate?
     
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    given that you are going to college, have you thought about the weight, portability and the tons of other stuff you are going to carry daily? Not to mention that they should perform the same, not counting the cripple boost, and the fact that there is a limited amount of space on those desks?

    also given that you will probably have your ps3 with you, and thus bring your monitor, you can hook up and be more mobile
     
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    Well I always wanted an Ultrabook knowing how small and portable it was but it never had the power of a full laptop with a good GPU and CPU, I guess the 14" Razer Blade really answers that question.
     
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    it really does, Im anxious for reviews
     
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    Don't forget games will play better at native resolution on the 14.
     
  49. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    you know one thing we apparently missed is that on those renders photos of the guts of the razer blade there are 2 msata and 1 mpcie slot in there, there is one hidden behind the touchpad/battery connector or whatever that ribbon cable is
     
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    So that's where the 512gb comes from, since there are only 256 modules
     
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