Hello everyone,
I finally bought my first RBA rtx2070. the problem is that my first gaming PC, so I have a lot to learn.
Can you give me advice?
What to install to better manage it, what tests to do to see if everything is working perfectly and in case to ask for a replacement if something is wrong in the right way.
I also heard about overclocking and undervolting, I know in general what it means, but where can I find more precise information to manage it better?
Thanks
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I think I saw you on Reddit asking around, just to add since it’s your first gaming laptop, buy guarantee minimum you want to have at least 2 years more is better.
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unfortunately having purchased on Amazon the maximum is 2 + 1 years warranty
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Wise decision
So now stress it a lot under a month amazon refund policy. Did you get the softwares I recommended? Undervolting it by -130mV and run xtu stress test and benchmarks. Then next is 3Dmark, Firestrike and timespy, the beta version is free but enough for testing and knowing the performance.
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@Joikansai has finally arrived! I did the undervolt at -130 and started the stress test with xtu, the results here, how do they look?
with temperatures between 66-69° and 1 time 70°
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these are the benchmark with 3d mark (timespy and fire strike) with undervolting -130mv
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Try each mode and see score and temperature. If there’s still no reaching mid 90ish on cpu you can try overclocking manually using afterburner. -
-gpu1 76° 43%
-Cpu 82-87° 21%
-ram 7510mb
-60fps stable
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There’re 3 performance mode on Synapse.
About RE2 Remake I think you can even play 1440p and get 60fps, your gpu usage seems too low, higher is better for gpu usage means it’s effectively being used. -
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Yesterday in gaming mode the CPU reached temperatures of 98 degrees with Dmc 5 at ultra settings, remaining fixed between 84 and 92
. Too much, really?
for the tests with the other 2 modes with 3d Mark I don't know how to do it because the 3d mark that I downloaded from steam allows me to do the test only once.
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This is all a case of balance. While you want your machine to perform at the highest level, you want it to last as long as possible as well and the longer it spends near 100 degrees, the shorter the potential life span.
A high of 98 degrees is nothing to panic about, however you can still reduce that heat without needing to open up the case and look at repasting. You could try increasing the underclock offset from -130mv. I would work in increments of 5, so try -135mv next. You should always match this with the identical number in CPU cache. This is giving less voltage to the CPU so once you reach a certain point it can cause instability and BSODs hence the small incremental changes, however it is safe and won't cause any damage. Some people have had success going as low as the -160 mark so feel free to test.
You can also do the same with the iGPU offset, however I would start at around -30mv and work from there, again in increments of 5. People have reported stability as low as the -60mv mark. As with the CPU, you should pair this figure with the iGPU unslice.
If you're not already I would suggest using ThrottleStop over the intel XTU app. It has far more functionality and is well recognised and supported on these forums.
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like you said if I still have too high temperature, I go down to -135 and so on.
the GPU seemed to me no hotter than 76 degrees, is it acceptable?
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76 degrees sounds pretty reasonable for the graphics card and well within safe levels.
HWINFO is fairly easy to use. When I open it I select sensors only, which brings up all your temps and clock speeds etc. Are you having trouble using it? -
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do you have 4k version
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has is your backlight bleed I know a lot of people don't care, or they do have but they do not notice
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@Joikansai new benchmarks made with gaming mode are slightly better. The maximum temperatures were 80 °.
Yesterday I tried again on RE 2 and Dmc 5, I don't know if it was throttlestop, but the temperatures were definitely better, with peaks of 80-82 °, but not always.
Game on a monitor 29 "21: 9 Is it normal that performance (fps) is reduced?
Later I try in performance mode.
now I'm noticing the coil whine more, do you have it too?
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Coil whine maybe there depends unit, is it noticeable on idle or when max load? It’s actually not coil whine on mine it’s high pitch noise that is produced by minimum airflow output inside the laptop that made “flutes” effect, I can reduce it by lowering fans rpm to 4800rpm from max, still there but on that level in my case will be covered by gaming sound. This high pitch sound happens also on other thin light gaming laptops like Aero 15, MSI gs65. On idle I can’t notice coil whine, but when connected to external monitor I could, if I put my ears near keyboard, hdmi and DP connected to nvidia dgpu, that make fan more aggressive. -
about the gpu and cpu overclocking you mentioned, is it a way to get better results at the same temperatures?
I'm continuing to carry out undervolting now I'm at -140mv and I haven't had any instability problems, I keep increasing it? should I do it for the GPU too?
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No, overclocking stress cpu and gpu more because you use higher frequency, it’ll result higher temperatures than without. You can try repasting it with better compound and get better thermal head room for overclocking though. I’m still on factory default paste since I can manage it to not running hot by software like xtu, Synapse, or bios moding (if I need it).
I don’t undervolting the gpu yet because gpu is always on safety temperature areas, only cpu. Even with max overclocking gpu never reach mid 80ish, unlike the cpu.Gianlucadbl likes this. -
Run tests for your undervolt at 64, 256 and 1024m. If you get any errors at all then your underclock is unstable. As a rule of thumb I will usually do the first test for 64m up to 10 times to make sure there are no errors and then 256 and 1024 once. This is simply because 64m is much faster and just passing the test once doesn't guarantee stability.
Even then this doesn't guarantee full stability. You may have certain apps that tax the processor heavily and can crash easily with an undervolt. I personally find that Adobe Premiere is one such app and if I still get crashing I will slightly increase the voltage to prevent this.
I use my machine for work so I can't risk any stability, however the occasional blue screen might not be such a concern for you. That said, any blue screens risk corrupting system files so should be avoided as much as possible.
With the GPU overclocking there is no way you can do this and not generate higher temps. You are asking the chip to do more which will pull more voltage. Unless you really need the extra FPS I wouldn't bother to keep pushing this. -
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why does the cpu work so low? in other tests it was about 3800mhz, but now it remains at 2800m
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Did you use xtu or throttlestop? Those two has bad compatibility each other, make sure only run one. And xtu may reset undervolting value to default 0, in order to keep undervolting value always on your preferred voltage there’s workaround, here.
If you want limiting Turbo Boost the best way is using throttlestop, by lowering cores amplifier to like 39 39 37 37 36 36, or lower. If you don’t use throttlestop go to power options, advanced setting, limit max processors state to 99%, or completely disable it by clicking disable turbo boost on Intel XTU (on throttlestop is also same one click disabling it) with lower FPS noticeable on cpu demanding titles. -
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Finally!
Lower set cores, undervolting cpu -130mv, I set multiple profiles on throttlestop, with safe profile switches when too high temperatures are reached.
The performance remained the same on the external monitor with fixed 75fps as before, later I'll try on the razer monitor. we hope well!!
the max cpu temperature was 80-81, but only spikes.
most of the time below 76 degrees.
All at max settings
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This without external monitor:
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