The Razer Blade Pro (2017) seems to have a lot going for it on paper. Most distinctively, it appears to be the only notebook with both a truly high end GPU and a touchscreen. I'm kind of spoiled on wanting a touchscreen at this point, but I really want more power again. I feel silly making a post like this, but here goes.
I see a number of complaints on here about throttling and about Razer's support, but I'm not sure if it's just a vocal minority. I'm getting the sense that none of the new Max-Q notebooks are likely to have touchscreens for whatever reason. (If you know the reason, I'd be curious. Is there no panel compatible with their form factor in mass production? Is there an issue with making a capacitive G-SYNC panel?) Normally I'd steer clear of a product with complaints like the ones I've seen in this forum, having dealt with defective hardware in the past, but it seems like there's nothing else quite meeting my demands.
So, if the RBP is the only option for the foreseeable future, should I just go for it? Is there another more reliable notebook out there that's got a 1080 GTX and could be modded to get a touchscreen? Or have I missed another option?
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don_svetlio In the Pipe, Five by Five.
"truly high end GPU"
The 1080 in the RBP loses to a normal 1070 laptop. Far cry from what you believe you are getting.
"see a number of complaints on here about throttling and about Razer's support, but I'm not sure if it's just a vocal minority."
The CPU throttling is manageable by undervolting and controlling the clockspeed of the 7820HK, however, there are many good reasons why Razer is listed as having the worst customer support in the industry in a pinned post on more than one forum.
"So, if the RBP is the only option for the foreseeable future, should I just go for it? Is there another more reliable notebook out there that's got a 1080 GTX and could be modded to get a touchscreen? Or have I missed another option"
Even 1070-based laptops would give similar or better performance. If you can live without the touchscreen, there are MUCH better options.
Aorus X5/X7
Asus Zephyrus
Acer Triton
Dell Alienware 15/17
Acer Predator 15/17
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I've read a lot of that. It seems as though the GPU is pretty comparable to a Max-Q variant of a 1080 GTX.
The point of my post is really that I don't want to compromise on the touchscreen. This seems like virtually the only option that gives it to me. -
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If the touchscreen is the deal breaker than you are left with this one overpriced option.
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Other manufacturers have their fair share of issues as well. Even a brief look at the various owners lounges of these "boutique" machines show enough to frighten most consumers.
For the record, my RBP V2 has been flawless so far. Hope it stays this way. I've even managed to hit 20,000 in firestrike graphics with a few recent power tweaks. It's not full beans 1080, but it's miles above 1080 max-q.
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DO NOT BUY RAZER if your intent is to buy a gaming laptop.
If you're intent is to buy an ULTRA BOOK and insist of getting a unibody, then maybe the Razer 14.
Even then...over priced for nothing. If one has money to burn, then that's their call...
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Have had mine for a few weeks and i really like it. But i use it mainly for work (software developer). The gaming experience is pretty decent but its not what you would expect from the components.
If there are things you want from this laptop and can afford the price without feeling cheated when the performance isnt what you hoped for - go for it.
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I get the posts about not getting maximum power out of the 1080 GTX component, but it seems like everyone is knocking this notebook as though the new Max-Q notebooks are a compromise that's unsuitable for anyone. Is it that people are upset that this notebook didn't have a different GPU designation to make it clear that it was a compromise? Or, again, is there a broader problem I'm missing? -
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EDIT: The problem is that you pay for a 1080 but you get a 1070. They could have EASILY had a 1070 inside and made it 400-500$ cheaper. -
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And that doesn't fit my understand of these throttling issues. Wouldn't the 1070 still throttle, albeit less, and you'd then say they might as well have put in a 1060? -
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Quite a few RBP users have reported BSODs due to the RAID array overheating. One of the SSDs has a fan cooling it but the other one has no cooling whatsoever and that results in overheating, throttling and BSODs due to the RAID array being in place. Many of the affected users have manually removed the RAID array. Though NVMe drives run hot in general. A friend bought a 256GB WD Black SSD and that runs in the 70s-80s*C under load. In contrast, typical SATA 3 SSDs and slower NVMe drives (older gen) rarely pass 45-50*C -
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The base panel could use a few cooling slots to help that third fan. As of right now, that fan simply spreads air around the internal, fully enclosed chassis. This fan, as designed, may reduce temps of a few components by simply spreading that heat around the chassis, but It doesn't actually exhaust the energy.
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Notice the 2nd drive's thermals.
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Is that the "2nd" slot? I put a 2TB 960 pro in my first slot and it seems to be holding up pretty well. Wouldnt like that to start having thermal problems.
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don_svetlio In the Pipe, Five by Five.
Not sure which one is the slot away from the fan - but that is the one having issues
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Thats slot 2 i think, i got my new disk in the one closest to the fan. I was also a bit curious to see that there were a 3rd slot in mine. Didnt investigate further but my 2nd slot is more to the middle and then theres a 3rd M2 slot to the right.
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So I'll have to consider immediately dropping to one drive on this thing? Definitely not a simple decision to pick this thing up. I wish i could just swap a panel on something else for a capacitive touch screen.
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An aggressive physical solution would involve cutting a few slots in the bottom panel. Directly below the third fan to allow cool air to be ingested into the chassis, and then an opening below the second SSD to allow an additional exhaust. Ideally, the cool air makes its way across the two SSDs, but air always takes the path of least resistance and that may be to turn and exit out the back vents. Either way, adding intake vents for the auxiliary fan would 100% aide in cooling.
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Well i just checked my photo from installing the new drive. I dont even have that 3rd fan...
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There seem to be a few other things thats different as well.
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Yes, i didnt manage to upload the image but there is most certainly not a 3rd fan. It is the 2017 model though.
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Can you post the internal picture through Google Drive or something else? I really want to see how the internals have changed.
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Sure, heres a link:
https://ibb.co/ih2Npa
It looks like they removed the fan, added some of those rubbery heat sinks that ive seen with other M2 drives and some other changes. As you can see both drives are to the left, and to the right there is an empty space with a M2 connector.
Overall its the same layout, but with some changes here and there with positioning of the drives and the removal of the 3rd fan as the major ones.alaskajoel and Vistar Shook like this. -
See... MiniQ was featured on the Razer all along.
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Maq-Q and 1080 in RazerBook perform almost equal. And your FireStrike graphics score is below what Max-Qrippled can as well.
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....yeah right.
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But,tyeah I playing with BGA... My smartphone and wifi router
The nearest I will come soldered filth!!
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I got 16000 on FS on my Blade Pro 2017 a few weeks ago
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razer is the worst thing you can do...the products seem good but they are rubbish..overheating...screen issues...they are just a fraud company..copying apple designs but trying to show they have good quality products..i would avoid razer at all costs
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Thats a bit harsh to be honest. Their peripherals are really good, havent had a single unit fail on me in any way. The razer blade pro is by all means not exactly what its advertised (and more importantly perceived) to be but after using mine as a work machine for the past few months i am really happy with it. The workload performance is great and the screen is just fantastic. As for overheating its mainly a performance problem. Sure it gets warm to the touch but not more so than my macbook pro which is supposed to be the golden standard of performance in a slim form factor.
The downside with the RBP is that there seem to be lemon units out there, and the gaming performance doesnt live up to the components (and as a result the price tag). As ive written earlier, you gotta take a long hard look on what you are going to use it for and what your expectations are before forking out the very high (and in some ways unjustified) price tag. There are a lot of better options for price/performance especially for a gaming experience.
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Considering Buying a Razer Blade Pro
Discussion in 'Razer' started by bazald, Jun 29, 2017.