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    Blade stealth late 2019

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by Joikansai, Sep 2, 2019.

  1. eth3rton

    eth3rton Notebook Consultant

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    That will cost you... can't imagine what this will run if (when) released.
     
  2. JRey

    JRey Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm able to get 8+ hours of battery when doing general computing and surfing. 30% display brightness, no keyboard backlight, balanced profile, no undervolt (yet).
     
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  3. Joikansai

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    There’s battery saver mode in Synapse, I think it’s new on Blade Synapse I saw this somewhere from Razer website.
     
  4. JRey

    JRey Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea, there is. I’ll test that later. For now, I’m doing everything on Balanced since I feel it’ll appeal for most people who are considering this laptop.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
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    I've had this laptop for a couple weeks and love it. Trying to make it perfect I popped a samsung evo 970 in and not the fans seem to come on a hell of a lot more and louder. I don't see temps leave the 30's however on the drive itself. I don't remember hearing the fans much at all with the stock harddrive. Plus my battery meter never says more than 3hours now. Before I could see up to 11 with the graphics card disabled.

    I have reinstalled all the drivers on Razer's site to no avail. Maybe it is a driver I am missing from I can't fsomewhere else. iI igureonly say tthis because I couldn't control the fan in Synapse until I ran one of those third party driver tools. That fixed it, but didn't install any drivers related to the hard drive.

    Any ideas? If I can't figure this out I think I will just go back to the stock drive. It ran almost silent.
     
  6. rinneh

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    Did you install MSI afterburner? It can wake up your GPU constantly.
     
  7. dab89

    dab89 Notebook Consultant

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    hi guys

    after much deliberation i decided to treat myself to a Razer Blade Stealth with 1650, 512gb especially after i saw it on amazon for £1499!

    it should be arriving today and i was wondering what things can i do to ensure it lasts as long as possible? shall i reformat drive? reinstall drivers? do some undervolting etc?

    i havent had a new laptop since i bought my alienware m18x r2 in 2012/13 (still surviving!) apart from work laptops that dont count imo :)

    i dont see myself playing the most demanding games...maybe some of the latest Total War games, GTA 5 etc so i dont think ill need max performance...so in that case should i do some undervolting? will i void Razers warranty if i do some thermal pasting?

    many thanks in advance! hope everyone had a lovely christmas
     
  8. Joikansai

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    Yes that model now on sale on amazon and Razer Store in some region. Though it was already overprice at €2K imo. It’s already low voltage cpu I don’t think you need to Undervolte it. I personally never reinstall the windows etc just use it as it’s since it doesn’t come with bloatware, only some candy crush and Synapse. I repasting first time my Razer system was after 2 or 3 years usage, if it has bad temperature out of box I’d just return it, but with stealth so far the temperature is good unlike its big brother 14/15. About repasting if you use similar compound not LM I believe it’ll be fine as long the process doesn’t break other parts or the unit , not quite sure about LM but I know some users who LM the Blade but still get the warranty.
     
  9. dab89

    dab89 Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you for response! Def overpriced at 1800£ but okay at 1500£ if not money squeezed but simply price conscious imo.

    Are there any specific tests you recommend running?

    This seems like a good review but I'm sure I don't need to run as many tests just want to ensure everything is functioning as intended rather than benchmarking

    https://www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/post/review-late-2019-razer-blade-stealth-w--gtx-1650-max-q

    Thanks in advance!
     
  10. Joikansai

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    No you don’t need to run all the test imo that’s nice review for reference. I just run 3Dmark time spy and play some games long session work to see that everything is fine. I use HWinfo64 sensor and let it open background to record everything. Since this’s quite impressive that 13 inch form factor can run literally all games quite well. I know there’s some power limitation happening from afterburner and HWinfo64 sensor values, but since it’s mostly on 70ish degrees I didn’t even think to try moding the bios yet, since from old stealth unlocking it not only add performance but also extra heat which I hate but I’m definitely try doing that once I’m bored with games, to play cinebench :D
    I tested also my work and media consumption on it that I used to do from an ultrabook especially for the battery life.
     
  11. Joikansai

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    Just removed cpu power limitation and with TB3 controller inside 1060g7, 2080 egpu setting almost beats my Blade 15 2080ti egpu setting on graphics score. In fact I play 4K or even Ray Tracing on better on this ultrabook which is insane imo, that was even before removing power limitation.
     
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    So did you finally get the late 2019 instead of the early one? Good choice, imho totally worth the extra cash.

    If you want some benchmarks with eGPU, this is with 1080Ti inside:
    Firestrike - 21617 (GPU), 12343 (CPU), 16341 total
    Superposition (medium 1080p) - 18904 (141 fps)
    Superposition (extreme 1080p) - 5522 (41.31 fps)
    Valley - 4886 (117 fps)

    Firestrike penalizes eGPU a lot, in every single other benchmark, synthetic or game, the stealth with your 2080 will be a lot faster than your old Blade 15 - with the same eGPU or internal 1070.
     
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  13. Joikansai

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    Extra €500 over MX150 (wanted 4K one since FHD was literally downgrade from my old qhd stealth), tempted also with mercury one but for same price with gtx model it was no brain.
    On firestrike pascal is better, I tried every single high end Turing outside latest super one, I believe due dx11 better on old architecture, but not on timespy, dx12. However with 1080ti, i think it should score better, I scored around 22,5k on graphics (1080ti was my old gpu) on my old 2016 stealth, maybe due less ports to control on pch controller, and stealth 2019 has dgpu that took pcie bandwidth already, but TB3 controller is actually on cpu, hmm weird. However thanks for the number I did on synthetic benchmark only 3Dmark atm I’ll take a look on other, so far busy gaming on it with or without egpu. About Blade 15 2018, i still keep it as my main PC (i don’t have Desktop) for the better ports and screen refresh rate/color accuracy. Damn this stealth made me want to sell it, but I’ll try to keep it till next gen gpu out.
    Edit: Just tried OC the gpu 160/1000 and I sit now on 3rd place. Too late here, I’ll try tomorrow sit on top place lol.
     
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  14. clayton006

    clayton006 Notebook Evangelist

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    So I have a question for all of you. I got one of these on sale on Amazon. I loved it for the first day. The second day I started playing some games and I had a lot of ghosting and just very low response times. I've been reading around trying to get a feel for if that's just the nature of this panel or not. I'd really like to get one of these again but I don't want to end up with another ghosty display. I got the model with the 1080p panel and read that the 4k panel isn't much better. Any help on this would be appreciated as I'd like to order again today if there is a chance I could get a decent panel.
     
  15. Zorn_

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    Could you post a BIOS file for this, or a guide to how you did it? All the existing stuff seems to be for the 15" models.
     
  16. Joikansai

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    It’s pretty same value with 15 one only a bit under different title I believe, just reverted it to default on other user demand to check default clock frequency. Here’s moded values.
     

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    Joikansai,thanks for the screenshot.I just unlocked power limit.I pegged the cpu to 2.8ghz on all cores and undervolted by 80mv.
    Now it beats my old I7-4700mq.This machine now is crazy,now onto undervolting the gpu.Original cpu freq was max 1.4ghz.
     
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  18. Diversion

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    After the BIOS unlock and TDP controls/tricks the new Stealth with 1065g7 is pulling faster multicore than a 9400H powered laptop.. Besting all quad-core 45watt CPUs available today. Pretty awesome.
     
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    Not able to PM you, but any way you can send me your BIOS file assuming you have the GTX 1650 Stealth? Thank you!
     
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    Just got around to trying this. Don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but I'm using AFUWinGui to open the modded BIOS, click flash, it seems to go through the steps (erase, write, verify). Then after I exit and reboot, there are no new option in the BIOS. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
     
  22. Joikansai

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    Did you check on CPU-advanced-Vcc in vr Domain? There’s no new tab like overclocking on front Bios Page by flashing it like that, however it’s not important on this tweak.
     
  23. Zorn_

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    Sorry not quite sure what you mean here. Are you saying there's a new section somewhere called vr Domain? I didn't see anything out of the ordinary that wasn't there before but I can look again. What tab is it supposed to be under? Is it hidden?
     
  24. Joikansai

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    Advanced, power&performance, cpu-power management, cpu vr setting, then you’ll see vcc in vr setting like I attached on one page before.
     
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    Thank you! Will check again once I get home.
     
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    I can say for 100% those options do not appear anywhere in my BIOS. I can only turn off Speedstep and turbo. Nothing at all for vr setting or any vcc. Are there any other special tricks to getting that BIOS flashed?
     
  27. Joikansai

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    Nothing special it’s similar with Blade 15 one here and you can also do only the bios areas without adding extra power profile. Maybe instead using poeple bios try to flash yours, changed the values and reflash again, since Blade 14 I didn’t try using poeple bios.
     
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    I'm just not super familiar with changing the hex code values and all that stuff. Also, any of the tutorials seem to be for Blade 15 and not the Stealth 1650 so I want to make sure I wasn't changing the wrong stuff.
     
  29. Joikansai

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    I see. It works also for both stealth 2019 models, mx150 and 1650maxq one, I tried on both. However on 1650maxq I reverted to default on demand and still using it since last week, if I need more cpu power i disable the dgpu, even it’s not as stable as tweaked mode at 3,5GHz I don’t really notice the difference on my use case gaming and I prefer actually better cpu temperature.
     
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    Hi Guys,
    I have the RBS13 late 2019:
    Just posted a question in ' Take Full Control of your Razer Blade w/no PL Throttling' but have some less specific questions.

    If I uninstall Razer Synapse, will the processor continue to be power limited to 15W with the dGPU enabled, and 25W when dGPU is disabled?
    Further, is there any other way to control the Chroma keyboard without Synapse? (the software is annoying me already)

    Finally, I have put 2 support tickets in to Razer and keep getting support replies that aren't meant for me - including email addresses, case numbers, product and serial numbers of other people who have submitted tickets.
    Has this happened to anyone else!?

    (feel free to point me toward some more appropriate pages)

    Thanks
     
  31. Joikansai

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    You can try uninstall it and check, it’s easy to reinstall it again. Unfortunately no, only synapse can control those lightning, well if dimming the brightness things you don’t need software though.
    I’d rise only one ticket, I had multiple tickets experience before and it confused them.
    For system QA recently staff made a thread on razer insider, you might want to take a look not specified to your model though.
    https://insider.razer.com/index.php?threads/top-systems-knowledge-base-articles.56064/
    Hope that helps.
     
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    Great - thankyou! I'll give it a go and let you know

    Also, I've been thinking - seeing as the BIOS has the power limit set to 25W as it should be, would it be possible to simply edit the registry to achieve unthrottled performance?
     
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    I flashed the bios, changed the settings according to the screenshot and now I do have a nice 3.5 GHz Turbo. However, the second I start Throttlestop I am limitied to a 1.5 GHz All Core Boost on my Late 2019 Stealth. How do I undervolt the CPU? Thanks.

    Isnthere a risk of permanently damaging the notebook if I unlock the full TDP of the CPU and sing the GPU at the same time?
     
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  36. Joikansai

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    Don’t use throttlestop it bugs the tweak, had also similar issue that lock somehow to 1,5GHz. I didn’t undervolt it since it’s already low wattage CPU.
    25 watt cpu brings higher cpu temperature that’s the only trade off, and lower temperature like on 15 watt power limit actually sweet spot for this unit. I saw 2020 25 watt doing same title GTAV and compared to 15 watt on late 2019 it was like 10 degrees cooler, it might also has something to do with factory thermal job though, but lower temperature is better on this thin light categories. I use the tweak mostly when pairing with Razer core since it deactivates dgpu and make more cooling room inside the blade, if i was mostly playing long session on blade i maybe prefer default 15 watt tdp for better temperature that might bringing longer lifespan for parts inside. Didn’t really notice performance difference on my titles only on cinebench and 3dmark.
     
  37. ColinMacLaren

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    since I don't get a real package power read for the CPU I am a bit worried that the combined load of the bios unlocked CPU and the GPU together might overburden the power circuits of the notebook. Temps are fine, 60-70°C which is nothing compared to bigger gaming notebooks.

    I also noticed that overclocking the GPU memory actually decreases performance, because the memory draws additional power resulting in lesserboost clocks on the GPU core. I am going to try reducing the memory clock even below stock later.

    https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13211983

    I also wonder wether there is an easy option to switch between lower clocks and power draw and 25W bios tweak other then reverting all those bios settings.
     
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    I just got a USB-C-HMDI adapter which is able to to 40k 60Hz. I hooked up the Blade Stealth to my TV, but it says that HDR is not supported. Why is this the case? The integrated Iris Plus is able to do it.
     
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