Blade 15 2020

Advanced model added 10 gen 8 cores with super Maxq gpu, as cars slot and usb c charging!!

Me just got stealth 2019 last December:



Base model has 2070 and up to Oled display option.


Both models has renewed keyboard layout that fixed a lot complains about right shift and bring back old Blade 14 style big right sift and arrows keys which’s noice

 

Yeah pretty exciting

I knew in my heart of hearts we wouldn't see a Ryzen 4000 series version, but I had held out hope.

When Nvidia launches their mobile 3000 GPUs later this year, I am sure we will see a refresh.

Can't wait to see thermals on the 8 core advanced model !

 

Any news on the optical keyboard switches?

 

They are unlike Asus is small company and won’t take a risk after a long time with Intel, play safe maybe, but once other companies using the cpu like Alienware, MSI etc maybe we’ll see an amd Blade. Maybe once next gen gpu out tiger lake H would be ready. Tiger lake U leaked performance recently is quite promising, image that with higher tdp.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-T...-future-OEM-cooling-shenanigans.453581.0.html

YouTubers apparently only got base model engineering sample yet, I’m curious too about opto keyboard on 2020 model.

 

Razer's website does not specifically call the keyboards out as being optical. It's still only available on that one 2070 model.

 

Have they changed the battery?? Would the battery life changes? If this is still 5 hours or so then it would still
a disappointment.

 

Battery sizes listed are still the same. Intel is still on 14nm and Skylake uArch. Battery life is very unlikely to be different.

 

This is ultimately going to be what drives me to Ryzen. The G14 that everybody has been hyping up has insane battery life.

I really wanted to buy a Razerblade 2020, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

 

Usb-c charging and the improved keyboard layout is nice. Pretty solid refresh to be honest. And 300Hz and eight core processors is the icing on the cake. Card reader is meh in my eyes, but anyone that needs that for cameras and such will gladly welcome it. It’s almost a true windows version of a MacBook at this point.

 

2080S? It's going to be throttled down to a 2070.

 

The 2080 Max-q and the 2080 Super Max-q are gonna be barely any better from one another from the pre sale emails I’ve got. Msi sent me an email with a chart the claims the 2080 S is gonna be maybe 2% faster? The new Nvidia Dynamic boost will be what gives it better performance. If it works as explained. But still the 2070 Super Max-q should be the best value.

 

I am confident Razer had a contract with intel which prevented them from using anything else.
If any of the preliminary results are to be believed, the Ryzen chip can provide a lot of performance in a similar package.
From my perspective, the 2020 Razer does not bring anything noteworthy to make me sell my current laptop and upgrade to that one.

 

I still have RBA 2018 1070, non rtx Blade yet want me to upgrade performance wise unlike 2017 14 1060 to 2018 15 1070 isn’t quite satisfying for an upgrade. Though usb c charging and mechanical keyboard (if they bring it) took my attention

Not everyone look at battery life and cpu performance. Here 2060maxq starts from €2K quite expensive for 2060 and no TB3 laptops.

 

I would order a 2020 Blade 15 "Base Model" ($1,599 "base model" lmao) right now, but lack of USB-C charging on all but the $2,599 "Advanced Model" is a deal-breaker for me. What a silly thing to gate-keep.

 

An early owner on Reddit has confirmed the 2020 advanced model has an option for 'GPU Mode' in Synapse, just like the 2019 Blade Pro 4k120 and the Optical Switch Blade 15. This is good news for people who were hoping for a mux in the newest Blade 15.

 

I couldn't find anything about it on reddit. I guess I suck at searching. I am really tempting to return the one I just bought if it is absolutely true.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comm...fhd/fr9k416?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

 

Really appreciate it. Just initiated a return and ordered the new one.

 

First professional review for base 15 Oled rtx 2070maxq option.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/2020-Razer-Blade-15-Base-Model-Laptop-Review-The-10th-Gen-Intel-Comet-Lake-H-Update.465895.0.html
Thanks god they only has mercury option on this model, if it’s on advanced 2080 super I might be weak

 

I have the 2080S 4K arriving the 26th. Hoping for a good one.

 

well with the new Razer 17 announced I ordered a 4k 120hz 1tb 2080 super, Looks like it may ship out today?

I will compare the 17 and 15 and keep which one I like best but the 120hz 4k has me pulling that way.

 

Yes that 120Hz 4K is also my next lappy upgrade but have to wait till Blade 15 die and prefer mercury version and mechanical opto keys honestly. On Germany Store 4K one is still notify me though only on US is available.
Early review from Apple reviewer about pro FHD model if you don’t see it yet.

 

I would agree as I love the silver look, but I got one last year and returned it, for me the silver and the white keys seem to be bland and don't pop the colors of the keyboard like the black does.

 

Let us know what the cooling sitch is with these new builds - have they changed anything inside?

 

Notebookcheck has reviewed base model with Oled and rtx 2070maxq mercury. That’s new on base model, inside I’d say bigger weird room where main nvme now slot beside the battery, you can hide something small there LoL.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/2020-...h-Gen-Intel-Comet-Lake-H-Update.465895.0.html

 

tracking has the 17 arriving the 28th and the 15 tomorrow. Hopefully thermals are decent out of the box then I will do a repaste.

 

Can you compare fan noise on both models. Looking forward to impressions.

 

You can also ask this guy about fans loudness he said playing rtx minecraft is quite audible, come back on user preference.

 

only Have the 15 so far, but the noise is better than any other 15 I have had to date, very smooth and not high pitched.

Performance though seems weak, My firestrike score is about 500 point higher on my Aero 17 GPU with 2080 max -q vs the super max-q. Temps are fantastic, and you can UV with XTU but the cpu no matter how high I set the power limits, power throttles and never gets over 4.1 normally stays around 3.3 which explains why temps are so good.
I am hoping a bios release will address this issue as the laptop could handle thermals. Best r20 score I have gotten was 3420 which is Meh! And yes I have CPU maxed and GPU in Synapse.

With CPU set to High in synapse its PL1 is 60 and PL2 is 80. No matter what I change those to it does not seem to matter so meaning its probably locked those? However in UV anything -140 and up causes crashes. So appears UV works?

 

After some more testing, it appears that Razer has limited the CPU to 78c. Time and time again all my test conclude that as soon as the cpu hits 78c it downclocks to 3.1. Thermal throttle never lights up so it's something they have put in there code?

This one will go back Thursday and I will test the 17 then.

 

Yeah it's code deep in the Razer Synapse software - if you use a registry snapshotter/process explorerer type app you can see these changes in real time when you turn Synapse on or off.

 

Razer doesn't use PL1 and PL2 to change the power limits in a way that can be read from windows... which also has the supremely annoying effect of being unable to increase PL1 and PL2 (aside from modifying the BIOS to incorrectly report CPU package power, tricking the embedded controller into thinking the power limit is not being exceeded). Note that you can successful decrease PL1 and PL2 below the embedded controller's limits from windows. You can see the computer do this itself when it thermal throttles.

If you want to measure what the actual enforced power limits are, run a stress test and look at CPU package power

If it's going from 3.3 GHz down to 3.1 GHz, perhaps that is Intel's thermal velocity boost. If that's the case, it's not something you can blame on Razer.

What is the CPU package power doing when that happens?





Assuming the 2020 model has the same setup as the 2019s - balanced mode in synapse = PL1 of 35W , and custom mode = PL1 of 45W on the 15" / 55W on the 17". If you're still in balanced mode, try custom.... and look at the reported CPU package power while running your test.

 

Thanks Guys for your input. I am not downloading much as I plan to return and most likely keep the 17. I just ran HW monitor pro while running cinebench r20 with profile set to max on CPU/GPU.
Power Package starts at 78w and 4.5 GHZ but drops soon as temps hit 78c to 3.1 and 45w, temps dropped instant to 68 and stayed at 68 through the remaining test and at 3.1, I never seen 3.3?
for as thin as it is, its still a good performer but I think the 17 will fit my needs better?

 

The temperature may be a coincidence. What you're describing sounds exactly like how turbo-boost works. 45W is the long term limit, so it's very normal for it to start higher (e.g. 78W), and then after a short period drop to 45W.

 

Base and advanced comparison, apparently this time power limit throttle isn’t changed, 8 cores on default is useless...Another year with imon tweak LoL.

 

FYI for anyone interested in memory tuning on the 2020 Blade advanced. Unlike the 2019 Blade which allowed for XMP memory profiles to be configured in the UEFI, this option is missing in the 2020 Blade. I have tried with three different XMP capable memory kits.

The stock memory in the 16GB Advanced configuration is 2x8 Micron MTA8ATF1G64HZ-3G2J1. This memory is non-XMP with the highest JEDEC profile of 3200mhz CL22. In the Blade, it operates at 2933mhz CL21. All three 32GB (2x16GB) kits I have tried in the Blade operate at their highest JEDEC profile. In the case of my best performing Crucial BL2K16G32C16S4B, this is 2666 CL19.

The omission of XMP profile options is a big bummer compared to the 2019 Blade which allowed this Crucial kit to operate at 3200mhz CL16. The Micron MTA8ATF2G64HZ-3G2 (2x16GB, 3200mhz CL22) is what I suspect Razer is using in the 32GB configurations but from my brief search, it is difficult to find. I ordered some HyperX HX432S20IBK2/32 which shows 3200 CL20 as the best JEDEC profile. I'll update this post when I try it out.

 

That's not cool, mine arrives tomorrow.. Maybe we'll need to try the BIOS menu-unlock mod to enable the XMP options?
- Let me know how your new RAM works outs, I have a 32gb set 2667 CL16 to start, but was hoping to get it to 3200, or I'd even settle for 2933 to avoid buying new sticks.

Also, on a sidenote.. I ordered the 15" Advanced i7-10875h 2080super mq OLED, and I heard there's no Optimus option in Synapse?... So I know this is due to the 300hz versions having a "MUX" switch (hardware), in order to have that option available.. BUT... I doubt Razer has a completely different motherboard for the two 2080super models?!?!

 

Blade 15 advanced vs GS66 stealth

tldr Blade runs cooler because he doesn’t even know Blade power limitation throttle for power content creator gamers Blade 15, budget gamers gs66. Unfortunately it’s not same specs 6 vs 8 and 2070 cs 2080mxq super. But you get the point, every year they’re closing to Blade maybe gs67 it whatever name it’ll come we will only notice brand logo difference LoL...and price

 

Judging by the base clock reported in GPU-Z, the 2080 Super Max-Q is the 80W version. As a result, in some benchmarks it is slower than the non-Super 2080 Max-Q in my 2019 model that I flashed with the Blade Pro 90W bios.

Can anyone get a hold of a 90W 2080 Super Max-Q bios? Perhaps the Blade Pro version?

 

Try costume high performance and measure the gpu tdp using gpuz or HWinfo64, I heard 2019 model on balanced mode 80 watt but on high performance (costum) mode 90 watt, I might be wrong.
Of course you can always flash vbios pro one once available but does anyone know that 15 vrm can hold for that. Me personally would avoid flashing higher tdp especially from bigger pro that has bigger thermal head room.

 

I have GPU performance at maximum (High) in Synapse. I'll check HWinfo but from memory, the 80W non-Super could peak past 90W and the 90W could peak past 110W.

 

Any one already make it work good? Mine came soon, but read topic now and not happy

So I already after battle with 2018 razer blade 15 know what to do, liquid metal, mod bios to make imon ajustments, maybe something more?

Any one already try to mod bios? Overlocking menus/XMP ?

 

Does anyone here have the 90 watt bios for the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q from the Razer Blade Advanced 15? I'm trying to flash my GS66 Stealth from 80 watts to 90 watts.

 

My 2080 super is pulling between 90-95w under load. Boosting between 1400-1500 Mhz under 100% load

 

What about CPU? Temps? Throttling?

p.s. Guys can someone who alreade tame that beast give guide for all steps that need to do?

I still wait mine, planning to repaste from beggining, make custom bios (it is possible to make XMP work?) and like I understand need to flash GPU with custom vbios? + play with uv

 

CPU temps seen to hit upper 80's while gaming. Nothing too crazy honestly.

 

On the fence here. How much bigger in feel is the 17 compared to the 15? I like that the 17 has the extra nvme but I'm not sure if I want to go back to a 17 inch laptop especially when I hated my experience on the gs73vr. It was just too damn big. Also wanted to get the 2080 super this time as I already have a 2070 blade 15.Any thoughts?

 

Found an open box on Best Buy.com for $300 off - the Advanced 1TB. Ordered it and 64 GB of DDR4-3200 RAM (which was what Crucial said was compatible - no 2933).

Probably the Open Box means somebody returned it as a dud so this could be a disaster, but we'll see!

Also read that turning on Optimus kills disk access time, at least for one reviewer, which doesn't make any sense. First time buying Razer...let's see if it's the last!

 

Same for mine the 2080 super pulls around 90-95watts, temp around 70-75C, CPU In the 80’s up to 90C. This is with balanced mode and fans are surprisingly quiet.

so far very happy with it, I bought the OLED version, i do play games but the max 60hz doesn’t bother me much and the screen is awesome

i had the RB Pro 2019 before and its bigger and heavier, its still small for a 17” though but I wanted something smaller and more portable again so the 15” is just perfect in my opinion

 

I am thinking of doing a repaste but am holding back considering if its really worth it....thinking of liquid metal too but since I carry it around a lot I am worried what if it “runs”....previously all my laptop were alienware and repaste was just mandatory every time, for razer it seems the stock pasting is not bad