Razer is releasing a updated Stealth with GTX 1650ti full 25W CPU power limit and 120Hz screen.
I have a few questions about this model:
1) so one good thing is you don’t need a do anything with the CPU as it uses 25W does anyone know if it uses that in all profiles balanced and gaming?
How much of a performance difference will we see with a 25W CPU over last years 15W?
2) I don’t know much about the new GTX 1650ti MQ , is it just a higher clocked GTX 1650 MQ?
The lack of info is frustrating and hard to determine how much better this GPU is over last years model, how much performance boost will we see with this newer GPU?
3) is the 120Hz screen as good a quality over last years 1080p screen which in my eyes a better choice over the 4k, is it glossy or matte and still over 400 nits?
4) In general how much of a performance boost in gaming should we expect for the new Stealth ?
5% -10% or more , less ?
Any reviews of this model? The general lack of info of this model it’s pretty hard to determine if the upgrades are worth it and my hard earned money.
Thanks
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No I don’t see any review yet apparently no one has 120Hz yet. And YouTubers don’t release it yet even I cought the 3Dmark result on one g14 review.
That’s not clear which performance mode is being used, but physical score isn’t much improved.
For comparison this’s “25”watt Blade Stealth late 2019 results.
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21401039
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9965117
Blade FHD always mate and 4K/higher resolution always glossy touch btw. One thing I want is that 120Hz, 60Hz suckIKAS V likes this. -
Do you have the 2019 Stealth with 25W Bios mode? How much higher do temps get?
Do you know anything about the GTX 1650ti? Is it the same card with just higher clocks?
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Yes extra tdp means extra heat, I see only on call of duty hitting 90ish, rest are seemly fine (mid 80ish, recently I play mostly non cpu demand indie titles on it) with that imon tweak unlock the power limit, but when I reset to default 15 watt on the same game, it is (the cpu) surprisingly never touch 80ish, I didn’t pay attention on FPS but it’s @1080p on 15 watt across anyway 60fps that made me want that 120Hz screen. -
I know it's not enough to go by, but comparing the CPU scores between your BIOS-modded blade and the new 2020 blade, it looks like the new blade is NOT running 25W when the GPU is going... -
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I know exactly how the BIOS mod works, I have it on my stealth. It's trivially easy to set it up to run at a specific TDP (like, say, 25W) instead of wide open. I assumed from his wording - incorrectly, it turns out - that he had his set up to limit itself to 25W.
I just ran a Timespy test on my 2019 stealth with an actual limit of 25W. My scores are GPU 2941, CPU 3940, overall 3057 (I have a mild undervolt on my CPU, that may explain the slightly higher CPU score than the 2020 version). Clearly my previous post was wrong... if the benchmarks for the 2020 version are correct, then it looks like the 2020 does allow 25W to the CPU. -
Hope someone figures how to flash the GPU to the 40W GTX 1650ti that has higher clocks, according to the review above the GPU runs cool and should be able to handle the extra 5W and higher clocks.
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Yes that sensor is maybe being stupid now due the tweak because I keep fooling it
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So not really that big a difference compared to the older GTX 1650MQ wonder what the ti in the 2020 RB Stealth really is? Seems just like a rebrand
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Man this thing is selling out fast, got notification saying it’s available and by the time I went on Razer it was sold out of the 120Hz screen model.
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No your right I usually by from the MS store where I get a discount but only signed up for the notification just to see when it’s available again.
I could get the 4k version for $1799 but that’s not the model I want.Darkhan likes this. -
I also buy from MS store when they have it, but this time I went through Razer and got the 3 year elite. One thing I did not know and maybe the others do this also? But Razer will buy back your warranty at a prorated rate, so if you keep a 3 year for 1 year they will pay you back what 2 years would be worth? They also transfer the warranty to any new owner. Not even sure how good their elite is but just found the buy back option interesting.
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Honestly I buy several notebooks a year, and Razer is often one of them, I still have 3 laying around here that still works, After 2018 I can say for me their service has been much better, fast returns and easy to reach a person, prior to 2018 terrible and the products were like a time bomb, I had chargers going bad, battery swelling up busting the chassis and more but knock on wood I have not had those issues in a few years.
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Hopefully it works out for you. I was tempted to snag one of the new ones, but my local Best Buy took in an open-box 2019 Stealth GTX so I'm trying that out. So far, I'm really liking it. The keyboard layout sucks, and the 60 Hz screen is a come-down from other laptops I've used. They're compromises I'm willing to live with, however, given the $500+ price differential between what I paid for it versus the 2020.
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Exactly, too small for me, I went with the 15 surface laptop 3 with Intel chip, for my business trips.
Personally hated the keyboard, everything else was good.IKAS V likes this. -
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Curious to see how much better the GTX 1650ti is over the GTX in real life too, I suspect not too much but any performance gains are welcome. -
Only a matter of time before someone jam this sucker in https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7266...b-nvme-2-ssd-up-to-3-4gb-sec-reads/index.html
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The 4TB model is $900. So that thing might cost more than the laptop itself. And yet. . .I want it. . . -
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Anyone have the new model yet? I am seriously contemplating trying one out. Haven't owned a Razor, have been nervous with support stories and the longevity in which the machines seems to last.
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There’s apparently no huge gpu performance bump to a ti, I compared same setting no bios moding no OC default friendly synapse gaming mode
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So the only upgrade seems to be the screen.
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I didn't think the short right shift on the late 2019 Blade Stealth would be a big deal, especially since I got it cheap on an open-box deal, but I thought wrong. I drove 35 miles one way to grab the last 2020 that was available from Best Buy at the time. Of course, two days later, the store that's closest to me gets one in stock. C'est la vie.
Anyway, the revised keyboard and 120 Hz screen are huge improvements so while it was quite the expensive upgrade, it's proving to very much be worth it.IKAS V, win32asmguy and pathfindercod like this. -
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I managed to grab a Blade Stealth 2020 with 1650Ti and 60Hz Pnael für 1250 EUR off Amazon Warehouse. It is going to arrive this evening. Fingers crossed there isn't something else in the box (happened to me six times already, that I got something diffrent, because scammers send back their old stuff to amazon and kept the new model)
I do have a couple of questions to those that already own it:
- Did you manage to overclock the display? The last IPS 60Hz noebook display I had manged to do 100 Hz. This could be a dealbreaker for me.
- Can you undervolt with Throttlestop and if you do, what boost clocks are achievable in conjunktion with the GPU?
- Is there a way to increase the Power Limits of the CPU and or GPU? E.g. flash a different GPU bios...
- Can you overclock the GPU with MSI Afterburner?
- Does this Guide also apply to the 2020 Stealth model? http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...otential-to-unlock-all-hidden-options.830993/
- How is the thermal paste job? I once owned a HP Omen where a repaste with liquid metal was pretty much mandatroy. Can you repaste the Stealth 13 and do you recommend doing that or have any experience with it?
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I got mine in the mail this afternoon.
At first I tried to open the chassis to install a bigger SSD. Those tiny cheap torx screws are a mess. Two of them were stuck heavily and it took me an hour where I had to get really creative to finally pull them out. Now most of them cannot be used again and I am looking for a replacement, preferably with a Philips' head.
The screen overclocks to 68MHz. That's not much, but better then nothing.
Can some once please send me the blade.icm color profile file? I don't know how to extract it from the original ssd without buying an USB-to-NVME adapter. -
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Sorry, my bad. I did not know that there are two revisions of the 1650Ti Stealth models. It's the 2019/15W machine.
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So had a question here, how is the ghosting on the 120hz panel? I had a 60 hz panel 2019 one and the ghosting was too bad for me and had to return it. Curious where this one stacks up.
2020 Razer Stealth 13” 1650ti MQ
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