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    2014 Blade Pro Overclocking Results--860m

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by alaskajoel, May 27, 2014.

  1. alaskajoel

    alaskajoel Notebook Deity

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    I just wanted to briefly share my initial overclocking results from the Maxwell based 860m in the 2014 Blade Pro.
    All of these scores are for 3Dmark Firestrike, and the CPU has been undervolted by 60mv via intel XTU (Multipliers remain at stock)

    Stock GPU: 3857 (4136 GPU)
    Core @ 1029MHz (Boost 1097) / vRAM @ 5000MHz
    Max CPU Temp: 90
    Max GPU Temp: 68

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700HQ,Gigabyte Blade

    Max OC on Core: 4152 (4515 GPU)
    Core @ +135 = 1164MHz (Boost 1232) / vRAM @ 5000MHz
    Max CPU Temp: 91
    Max GPU Temp: 74

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700HQ,Gigabyte Blade


    Max OC on Core and Stable Memory OC: 4306 (4640 GPU)
    Core @ +135 = 1164MHz (Boost 1232) / vRAM @ +1010 MHz = 6010MHz
    Max CPU Temp: 90
    Max GPU Temp: 75

    Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Unknown,

    For some reason, the systeminfo test would fail with the memory overclock. I've been playing BF4 on these settings without any drama, with the exception of substantial fan noise. The overclock allows me to play at high settings while maintaining 50-60 FPS on a 64 player map (which is what I was going for.) Dropping it to medium results in a near constant 60fps @ 1080.
     
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  2. Tech17

    Tech17 Notebook Consultant

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    Yay, another overclocker! We’re a dying breed, apparently.

    Thank you for doing this, and I like to see how this compares to the benchmarks results I posted on the 2014 14” Blade here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/razer/752809-my-blades-13-vs-14-benchmarks-overclocking.html

    Anyway, if you look at the results side by side, I think there is something wrong. I’m not sure what you mean by vRAM overclocking. Obviously not the GPU memory speed, because 6k+Mhz on a stock 2500Mhz speed would let out that magic smoke =), but I think that’s what you were getting at with your systeminfo test issues(?)

    So, my Blade’s 870m OC @ 1161 GPU clock/2860 memory clock had the 3dmark result of 6977. Your OC @1164 GPU clock (closest to one of yours) and @ ??? memory clock had 4306. That would show the 870m with a 62% higher score with similar setting, and the 870m not that much more powerful by a long shot. Now that I did the math, even if your GPU memory clock was default, the 870m should not have THIS much higher score.

    Okay, more thinking after doing math =). Something really seems wrong my friend. If you check the top of my OC post, I have the 2013 vs. 2014 blade default benchmark. My 2013 blade (765m) got a stock score of 4059, which is higher then your default run (3857) on the new 860m.

    I’m still using the old Nivida system tools for OC (and anyone else please don’t unless you want to risk burning your chip. That tool is no longer supported and just plain dangerous unless you’ve been doing this for a while. If you remember COOL BITS, using this tool is much harder…)

    What tool are you using for OC?

    Further, are you using stock drivers or did you go for updates straight from Nvidia. I’d be VERY interested in the stock results with default, Razer drivers. I know the drivers directly from Nvidia will “install” these days (didn’t used to work that way), but I don’t think they work properly, especially with optimus technology.

    Anyway, I LOVE those temps man; that puts the 14” blade temps to shame!
     
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  3. Porter

    Porter Notebook Virtuoso

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    I think his scores are with the 3dmark firestrike benchmark. If we ask nicely maybe he would be willing to test using 3dmark11. It would be interesting to see the results both stock and OC.
     
  4. alaskajoel

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    So first, I am using firestrike not 3dmark11. I'll download the demo tonight and run It for comparisons sake.

    Second, I've always been in the habit of reporting effective memory rates rather than actual. Actual on the card is 2500Mhz and since DDR memory can operate two read / write cycles per clock the effective rate is 5000KHz. My overclock was 1000Mhz effective or 500Mhz actual, so actual overclock on the memory was approximately 3000Mhz actual.

    I'm using Msi afterburner and the drivers that were released today.
     
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  5. alaskajoel

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    Also, thanks for the kind words Tech17 :) I too enjoy squeezing a bit more oomph from my hardware. 3dmark11 is downloading now. Here's a GPU-Z screenshot showing the current overclock. I wish it told me what vendor was being used for the memory (Remember, multiply by 2 to get actual, and by 4 to get effective speeds). Any other ideas on how to get that info?

    [​IMG]
     
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    KillerFry Notebook Consultant

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    Hey, Tech17, have you noticed lower Ice Storm results than expected?

    I haven't overclocked it my 870M, and I'm getting 39,717 on Ice Storm. Yet, on the ol' 765M in the Blade Pro (2013) I used to get around 80,000 in Ice Storm.

    Fire Strike and Cloud Gate seem good - at least, they are over the old 765M which is kind of expected.
     
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    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    Did the newly released drivers fix anything?
     
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    KillerFry Notebook Consultant

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    Nope, tough they did show a small increase in Fire Strike and Cloud Gate. Though I did get an answer in the Steam forums regarding the error messages 3DMark kept popping up regarding a failed call to getGPUname(). There's a new version of SystemInfo - though it's not yet rolled into the Steam version of 3DMark. Here's the thread: Fails to process results... :: 3DMark General Discussions

    Now it properly detects the 870M. Baby steps and all that!
     
  10. alaskajoel

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    Testing out an unlocked vbios for the 860m.

    Managed to get 4463 on stock voltage (+200 Core, +500Mhz/1000Mhz Effective Memory)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700HQ,Gigabyte Blade

    I'll try a little further on stock voltage, and then try upping the voltage a bit to see how far she'll go. I'm a little hesitant to go too much further because temps were hitting 83c on +200. The Blade Pro simply doesn't have the cooling that Asus or MSI do at max fan speeds.
     
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    Unlimited? I get about 110,000: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 870M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4702HQ,RAZER RAZER
     
  12. Tech17

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    :facepalm: sorry about that, my bad…

    sweet! looks right to me, and i love how ya just pushed that memory clock all the way to the right =)

    I dont recall the numbered score, and cannot believe they don't include that in the online results….

    My stock 3dmark11 run

    Sorry guys, but it's been a minute since i've really been into it at a hardware level; last time 3dmark06 was still the "standard" lol. Ice Storm is DX9 test right? so that is Graphics Test 1? if you have your results, i had 32.28 fps on GFX test 1. else-if, they are all in the link.

    at this point i've blown away the OS and build my "gold" image. I'll get 3dMark installed again if ya really need more.

    Thanks all!
     
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    Hum... there's definitely something funky on Ice Storm for me... I di notice the fans for the GPU don't spin during this test, but they do for the other two. Maybe it's running off the iGPU.

    I'm on a bus right now. I'll check that once I get to the hotel.
     
  14. alaskajoel

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    Alright, using the unlocked vBios... here are the max overclock scores I've been able to maintain. While I can hit +300Mhz on the core, I get better scores when I back off the voltage and core clocks to +280 because it appears to actually maintain the boost. When clocked to +300, the GPU hits 83-84c and it appears to stop boosting until its under 80 again. Thus, my best scores were with +280 Core and +510Mhz Actual mem (1020Mhz Effective), and I needed +280mv on the core to get there. Any more voltage than that, and it wouldn't maintain overclocking boosts at all. (I actually got lower benchmarking scores with the previous overclock of +200core/+500mem +350mv than I did on stock voltage because average boost was only +145). This seems odd to me because it wasn't boosting properly even when temps were below 80.

    Anyway, here are my scores:
    Firestrike: 4605 (4996 GPU)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700HQ,Gigabyte Blade

    3dmark11: P6275 (6071 GPU)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700HQ,Gigabyte Blade

    Interesting note: I had a P6104 3dmark11 score on my P150em with gtx680m two years ago. That was a 100w card, and this little guy just beat it while consuming 1/2 the power. When maxwell gets a die shrink, it will be incredible.
     
  15. Electrofox

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    Hey! Alaskajoel, just curious as to where one would acquire an unlocked vBIOS to be able to overclock the card above the +135 cap. New to overclocking, but I've done a bit a researsh on it and understand most of the risks associated with it!
    Thanks in advance!
     
  16. Qucy5

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    overclocking newbie here...what program are you guys using to boost your GPU clocks? ??

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I497 using Tapatalk
     
  17. Jamesng1986

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    I'm using Nvidia Inspector 1.9.7.2 to overclock. You can basically set your base clock offset to +135 (which is the maximum allowed without a vbios mod) with no problems. As for mem clock wise, it's a little trickier as with some programs or games you can push it higher than others while maintaining stability and not cooking your laptop. It would say just set it at +300 or +400 would be enough as you won't really see a gigantic performance bump from pushing it further. The consequences of pushing it further will further reduce the life of your components and the performance bonus (if any) doesn't justify that. Just my 2 cents.

    Having said that, i'm also looking for a modded vbios for my 2014 Blade Pro just to have fun tinkering around with it to see how far it can go without the cap of +135 on the base clock.
     
  18. Qucy5

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    Ok...thanks

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