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    GPU Temps

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by Snocker, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. Snocker

    Snocker Notebook Enthusiast

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    O.k, so i decided to DL Riva-Tuner and check out my GPU Temps...

    Under no stress basically maybe FireFox up or something with music or nothing its sits at 71c.

    When I play World of War-craft, non graphically stressful Game sits at like 92-96 depending on if i'm goofing in mainland or PvP...

    Are those ok temps for a GPU?

    Also my computer shuts off if I play for too long, have to have cooling pad in games. so should i look at another piece of my computer if those are ok?
     
  2. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Which notebook/GPU is it?
     
  3. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    If you are overheating... usually any temp over 90C degrees is bad.

    when was the last time that you cleaned out the fans and vents thoroughly...?

    if never, then thats why.

    1) remove battery
    2-optional) remove/unscrew the panels on the bottom of the notebook to get to fans and vents ( if possible, if not its okay)
    3) use flashlight to look through vents for the dust (if you cant see the light on the other end, then the vents are clogged up)
    4) go outside, get some compressed air (cans or compressor @ 50 PSI) and give the vents a good airing out all directions ( concentrating on the vents)
    .... you might want to brace the fan blade(s) when airing it out (with a toothpick or paperclip to prevent it from spinning out too much)
    .... or use short bursts (1-2 secs) of air instead of bracing the fans.
    5) go get some Q-tips and swab the fan blades and the area around it
    6) then go do a second airing with compressed air (all directions again focusing on the fans and vents) to push out the dust that was dislodged from the Q-tips

    7*) Now go use the flashlight again and look through the vents (shine the flashlight from the fan, you look through the other end) for anymore dust clogs.

    8) Then start up the notebook... and let the fans cycle up (use the Fan Toggle at max speed if your system has it) to push out any other dust that might have been stuck.

    If all goes well you should be able to close up the notebook and...

    you're done.

    *repeat this step until its cleaned out.

    Thats pretty much it. :)

    Just make sure to do this every two-three months... it should take about 15-20min per cleaning if you want to be thorough.
     
  4. GffMaC

    GffMaC Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just curious but the fan and vent at the back are both for the gfx and processor arnt they? I cleaned mine the other day opened the panel underneath and used a soft dry paint brush to loosen and blew out a fair bit of dust which did cool it down. This post just got me thinking its not really the processor that has overheated in the past but my gfx card.

    IFL90 - T7800 @ 2.6ghz + 8600gt 512mb
     
  5. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Use HWMonitor to check your CPU/GPU/HDD temps. (no need to install, just an .exe)

    Run Hwmonitor on the background while playing wow for 30mins. Report back with the max temps in hwmonitor.

    If its shutting off without the cooler then thats a very bad sign.
     
  6. Chobo

    Chobo Notebook Enthusiast

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    (Rizeon)JHL90 P8400, 9600m GT DDR2.

    71c Idle, 88+ under load.

    It's new, only arrived on the 12th, and I'm a little concerned how hot it's running. :/

    Ps. I'm in the UK, so it's not like the ambient temperature is particularly high or anything.

    Edit: Forgot to mention that both RivaTuner and HWMonitor agree on the temperature.
    Edit...again: The fan isn't running because, despite the GPU, the CPU isn't under significant load.
     
  7. Althernai

    Althernai Notebook Virtuoso

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    With the JFL92, the idle temperature is typically in the 70's but the load temperature does not exceed the mid 80's. The reason the temps are so high is that the fan is not working at full power until the temperature is well into the 80's (and it's not working at all until about 78C).

    That said, 90+ is probably too hot.
     
  8. Snocker

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    Powerpro's IFL90, 8600M, GT T7500 system, Yes I have cleaned my fans out before, the system is not even a year old yet. Cleaned out the fans sometime in... June I think maybe may because it was shutting down on me in Games.
     
  9. archer7

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    If you have a PowerPro then you should be covered by a 3-year warranty. I suggest you call PNB's techies and talk to them about it. They should be able to advise you if nothing else.
     
  10. Snocker

    Snocker Notebook Enthusiast

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    These are my Temps... Sadly that is with World of Warcraft running WITH a cooling pad underneath running =(

    ~Powerpro IFL90 Version, 8600M GT, T7500, Windows Vista 64 bit
     

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  11. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Your CPU is nearly overheating and your GPU is definately overheating. Your HDD has really good temps (probably from the cooler)

    Is your fans working properly?

    The cooling system seems to be hindered by something. Id also try changing thermal paste and re-seating the cpu and gpu. (only if you know how too)
     
  12. gonwk

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    Hi folks,

    @ Snocker ... if you really want to know you have the problem with your gfx card ... please do teh follwoing and post back ...

    1) Use HWMonitor (HWM) like you did.

    2) Use a Format like this with Value/Min/Max and CPU/GPU/HDD topost back your results ...

    Example:

    ------------------Value / Min / Max
    CPU ------------- 40 / 36 / 49
    CPU at Gaming ---
    GPU at 0 --------- 50 / 50 / 50
    GPU at 5 --------- 67 / 50 / 68
    GPU at 10 -------- 75 / 50 / 82
    GPU at 15 -------- 84 / 50 / 90
    GPU at Gaming ---- 92 / 50 / 94
    HDD -------------- 38 / 36 / 41
    HDD at Gaming ----

    3) Start taking your readings ... at Start-up (I mean after you have had your laptop turned off and cooled completely) ... then 5, 10, 15 minutes later in IDLE mode.
    What I call IDLE mode the laptop is on and you are not running ANY PROGRAMS or APPLICATIONS besides ONLY HWM.

    4) Then start playing a game and take a measurement when you are pushing the game.

    5) Then let the laptop sit for 10 or 15 minutes ... then use a CPU INTENSIVE program ... if you have an Encoder program like MediaCoder that converts dvds to AVI ... and run it for about 10 minutes and take a reading.

    And post back your results ...

    Thanks,
    G! :)
     
  13. gonwk

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    Hi Altherani ... you might have something here saying JFL92 GPU idle temps is the 70's ... because my 2092 was always running in 70s to 80s ... the minute I did CPU intensive work which called for the FAN ... my GPU temps would drop like a rocket into 60s ... which I like it there if I am not gaming.

    @ Snocker ... if your System is PowerPro and only 1 year old ... I wouldn't touch a thing in it otherwise might effect your Warranty ... just ship it back to them and let them re-apply Arctic Silver or whatever else they need to do.

    G! :)
     
  14. Gophn

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    Snocker, have you clean out the vents in that system?

    And which cooler are you using... most are actually under average out there from my tests.
     
  15. JoeNewberry

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    If you've already cleaned the fans and vents, plus you're using a cooling pad, and your temps are still that high, I'd say it's time to consider an RMA. Particularly if the system is shutting down on its own under those conditions. Your GPU may be faulty or have a loose heatsink, just for example. You could try to fix it on your own, but you'd probably be better off exercising your warranty.
     
  16. Snocker

    Snocker Notebook Enthusiast

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    After I do more testing I will consider RMA. I dont wanna just "ZOMG NIVIDA IS THE SUCK BANDWAGON" And I know that most people might think im weird but I don't just like sending things in till I'm sure I have done all I can within warranty limits, don't wanna send powerpro needless work =) And yes I know they are there for that in case something happens =p its just how I work, I will take your advice gonwk, will clean my fans again etc and see what happens.
     
  17. Chobo

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    The max temps are...
    CPUs 55/50c (undervolted to the allowed minimum)
    HDD 50c
    GPU 95c (anything over, and the fan kicks in)

    Idle temps...
    CPUs 40/35c
    HDD 33c
    GPU 77c :/
    Takes around 10 minutes for it to hit that after booting.

    Is there anyway to alter the way the fan behaves? I'd rather not have my GPU belching flames needlessly. :/
     
  18. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    nope, only a few custom gaming notebooks (like Clevo's) have a Fan Toggle to switch all fans to max speed or auto speed.

    Some Dells have a software util that can control the fan speed as well.

    Thats pretty much it, notebooks are low-level programmed to handle fan speed and throttle through their firmware... which can be updated/improved.. but difficult (unless if the manufacturer comes out with an update).
     
  19. JoeNewberry

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    Sure, I can understand that. The factory does like it when customers exhaust their options before sending the laptop in. Still, don't be afraid to use what you paid for in the warranty. It doesn't have to be about nVIDIA being a bad brand, just about cards failing sometimes. If you haven't cleaned the fans and vents, definitely give that a try first, since it would be the first thing tech support is going to ask if you do need to call in for an RMA.
     
  20. gonwk

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    Hi Chobo ... I found with my Sager 2092 the best & CHEAPEST & low-tech way to cool it is with below $10 Personal Fan 4" or 6" inch one ... raise the laptop with something ... door trim wood (1/2") and blow the fan on speed 1 or 2 ... laptop stays cool.

    Or just shell out the $ and buy something that has been advised for your laptop on "NBR Cooling Central" ... a little cleaner and techier choice.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=263039

    G! :)
     
  21. Snocker

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    Ok so... I took Gonwks advice! And this is what I came up with Temps...

    5 minutes Idle: Core 1 56c, Core 2 55c, GPU Temp 61c

    10 Minutes Idle: Core 1 56c, Core 2 55c, GPU Temp 60c

    15 Minutes Idle: Core 1 58c, Core 2 56c, GPU Temp 61c

    Peak When just surfing the net at anytime, watching online flash video was about 67c for Cores. Did not check the GPU Temps.

    Game Used, World of Warcraft (Note, Tempeture always drops 3 degrees whenever I alt tabbed out of the application on the GPU, so I tried to Windows mode it, but it would just raise the Core temps, and steady keep the GPU temps around 89)

    5 Minutes Gaming: Core 1 70c, Core 2 68c, GPU Temps 78c

    10 Minutes Gaming: Core 1 73c, Core 2 72c, GPU Temps 87c

    15 Minutes Gaming: Core 1 81c, Core 2 80c, GPU Temps 87c

    Peak Temps for the GPU were 92c, This was basically just standing in WoW In shatt, not really playing or anything, as typically when I do instances, my computer will shut down. I did play some AV, but was mainly isolated with only 2-5 people around.

    So, any suggestions with those temps? This were taken using HWmoniter.

    EDIT: This also with just essentials running and HWmoniter, no extra programs running in background, this was with the vents freshly cleaned and sitting on top of a cooling pad (turned off) for better bottom clearance.
     
  22. JoeNewberry

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    Once again, I say if the system is shutting itself off, you've cleaned everything and you've got good ventilation, and you're still getting those temperatures, it's time to call your reseller for assistance. At the very least, they can contact the factory and see if they think there is anything else you can do about it. Your GPU may have a problem, not because "OMG nVIDIA suxors!@!!1", but because sometimes they just fail.
     
  23. hirush

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    I am wondering how much difference in temperature drop I will see if I apply artic silver 5 on GPU? say my geforce 8600m :D Underload 81 celsius degree max. Anyone?
     
  24. Gophn

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    under 90C degrees is fine.

    under 85C is amazing. :)
     
  25. Ayle

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    Try updating the bios. I think the 1.18 makes the fans spin sooner.
     
  26. Dirt

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    It's a bit offtopic, but TG Daily claims, that all G84/6 and even G92 and G94 GPS's have high potential to fail after long workload at higher then 70 degrees.
     
  27. Kilik_WM

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    God ...My IFL90 Graphics Card's temp just 51C..