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    eMachines W4620 Review (pics, specs)

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by dryanwilson, Mar 11, 2006.

  1. dryanwilson

    dryanwilson Notebook Enthusiast NBR Reviewer

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    Overview and Introduction:

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    The eMachines W4620 is a value notebook, sold exclusively at Wal-Mart, and is available in most Wal Mart stores, or online at www.walmart.com. eMachines was recently purchased by Gateway. Historically, eMachines laptops have been made by Arima, and this unit is no exception, as it is stamped on the bottom of the unit Arima M622-UK8X (http://www.arima.com.tw/ViewProduct.asp?View=134) eMachines has yet to put this laptop on their site:

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    My personal impression is that this laptop is a thin and light value-performance notebook.

    This laptop comes equipped with:

    • AMD Turion 64 <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:place>Mobile</st1:place> Processor MT-32, Operating at 1.8 Ghz with a 512KB L2 Cache
    • 512 MB PC2700 DDR Ram
    • 80GB 4500RPM Hard Drive
    • Integrated Wireless 802.11G (Up to 54MBPS with Secure EasySetup)
    • Onboard LAN and Modem
    • Graphics: ATI Radeon Xpress 200M Integrated Shared Graphics (Built off of X300 technology)
    • Ports: 1 Firewire (IEEE 1394), 3 USB (2 on left, 1 on right side), 1 VGA, 1 Mic, 1 Headphone, 4-in-1 Memory Card Reader, (SD, Mem. Stick, Mem. Stick Pro, Multimedia Card)
    • 6-cell battery pack (standard)
    • Software: Microsoft Works 8.0, Money 2005, MS Digital Image Starter Ed. Trial, Bug Fix, Nero 6, Adobe Reader 7, Power DVD, MS Office 2003 Trial (60 Days), McAfee Internet Security Suite 90 day trial, AOI 6 month subscription
    • Weight: 5.5 lbs

    Reasons for Buying:

    I was looking at this unit as a replacement for my eMachines M5310, which I had excellent luck with. I felt the first eMachines unit I purchased was up superior value, and the quality build was also comparable or equal to other manufacturers I looked at, such as Dell, HP, and so forth. I did have a couple overheating issues with that PC, and eMachines went out of their way to fix it, even out of warranty. I never stayed on hold more than 20 seconds, and the call was always answered by a competent technical service advisor who did not run through a script. eMachines always sent customer-foam boxes to have me next day mail my old laptop to them (free to me). Thus, when the time came to upgrade to a faster, more mobile PC with better gaming options, I looked around at many brands, like the Dell B130 (loaded), but for the price, it did not compare to the eMachines W4620

    Where and How Purchased: .

    I bought this notebook on eBay, new in box, for $715 shipped to my door, and was still eligible for a full manufacturer warranty. This was an excellent deal, as wal-mart is currently asking $895 on their site, and remember at this time they have exclusive rights to sell this notebook, but I feel this may change shortly due to their environmental requirements for laptops sold in their stores.

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    The design of this notebook is sleek, light, and fairly square. It's essentially a no thrills design, though the silver-on black really stands out. In terms of sturdiness, I would not rate it very high for the following reasons. The unit's keyboard flexes under light typing. The LCD bezel can be twisted. (play the c|net video with the gateway cousin of this laptop to see this issue here: http://reviews.cnet.com/Gateway_M320/4505-3121_7-31012312-3.html?tag=toc) It is light at 5.5 pounds, and at about 2 pounds lighter than my old laptop I can honestly say the laptop bag is much more comfortable across my shoulder now. The case is made of basic plastic, nothing to impressive in terms of thickness, quality, or texture, though the keyboard-pad is textured. I did have an issue my first week with the bezel around the LCD screen warping in the lower right corner, by the hinge, and sent it back to eMachines. Fortunately, it was fixed and returned within 3 days. However, the LCD is of good quality, with only 1 dead pixel in the corner. I do not see ripples when moving the LCD panel back and forth or pushing on the back of the unit. The hinges themselves seem fairly sturdy, though there are 2 instead of three connection points as with the eMachines M5310. Overall, I give this laptop a 4/10 in terms of outer durability, though the quality of the components seems fine.

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    Screen:

    The screen on this unit has extraview, and is much brighter than my M5310 side-by-side (now sold, cannot give a comparison shot) One dead pixel is noticed by the windows start bar in windows XP, near the lower-left hand corner. It is typically black and is hardly noticeable. eMachines policy as communicated to me was that screens could be replaced within the first 15 days of purchase with as few as 1 dead pixel, if in the center of the screen. I was told I would get a replacement screen when I sent it in for a new LCD bezel (warped), but it returned with a note stating that it did not meet requirements. Thus, the pixel policy seems to fit under the industry standard. There are some signs of light leak around the lower corner, only at certain times, such as when the windows XP screen saver is on. Overall, I am VERY happy with this screen, and feel it is far superior to all LCD's I have previously owned. The max resolution is 1024 X 768.

    Speakers:

    I was amazed at the sound quality of the internal speakers, much in part due to the fact that they are downward facing, on the front of the notebook. They are quite crisp, and the bass really depends on the surface they reflect off of. I would recommend external speakers, because I prefer high sound quality, but certainly, these are louder than expected and good for most users.

    Processor and Performance:

    This computer comes with the AMD Turion 64 Mobile M-32, which operates at 1.8 Ghz and has a 512KB L2 Cache. Boot to the windows screen is average, though I have upgraded this unit to 1 Gig of memory, and this has helped significantly. At 4500 RPMs, the hard drive speed on this unit is disappointing, but it is still adequate for gaming, picture processing and editing, and basic tasks. This laptop came with 512MB of DDR 2700 memory, which is inadequate for gaming on this notebook. When I first received the notebook I was very disappointed by the performance of the graphics processor, but once upgrading to 1 gig any and all problems went away, no more frame rate problems, better resolution and clarity, and more vivid colors and processing. The laptop will occasionally lag after playing short video clips, even when the processor is not in speed step mode. At all other times, the processor is quick, and I find wait times are minimized. <st1:country-region><st1:place>America</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s Army and Quake 3 Arena are the two games I play on this laptop. Both can be run at the highest possible resolution without problems. Extremely remarkable is the graphics rendering in AA! I was quite impressed and this has helped justify this purchase.

    Benchmarks:

    Below are the results gained from running Super Pi (ftp://pi.super-computing.org/windows/super_pi.zip), a program that forces the laptop's processor to calculate Pi to 2 million digits of accuracy:

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    eMachinesW4620(AMD Turion 64 MT-32) 2m 36s
    Acer TravelMate 8204WLMi(2.0GHz Core Duo) 1m 15s
    Sony VAIO FS680 (1.86 GHz Pentium M) 1m 53s
    Lenovo ThinkPad T60 (2.0GHz Core Duo) 1m 18s
    IBM ThinkPad Z60m(2.0 GHz Pentium M) 1m 36s
    Fujitsu LifeBook N3510 (1.73 GHz Pentium M) 1m 48s
    Dell Inspiron 6000D (1.6 GHz Pentium M) 1m 52s
    Dell Inspiron 600M (1.6 GHz Pentium M) 2m 10s
    HP Pavilion dv4000(1.86 GHz Pentium M) 1m 39s
    HP DV4170us (Pentium M 1.73 GHz) 1m 53s
    Sony VAIO S380 (1.86 GHz Pentium M) 1m 45s

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    Keyboard and Touchpad:

    The keyboard on this unit has keys that are light and easy to touch, providing a minimal clicking noise when touched. The do feel a bit more "loose" than those on my M5310, but nevertheless, the quality feels confident and the pressure it takes to type is consistent. I've had no issues with pressing buttons but receiving no text on "light" taps of buttons. The keyboard flexes, even under light and moderate typing, which is only visually noticeable, however, it does not instill much confidence in the build quality. The touch pad has a scroll on the side, with two buttons below the scroll pad. It cannot be turned off, so one has to be very careful not to touch it when typing, or they can erase text they are typing accidentally. There is a scrolling button on the right front side of this unit which turns sound up/down/muted. There is one button on the keyboard area that corresponds to system commands other than the keyboard, and that is the on/off button, so there are few multimedia buttons. There are, however, CD buttons embedded in the F row keys that can be used in conjunction with the Fn key.

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    Input and Output Ports:

    This unit has 3 USB 2.0 ports (2 on the left side, 1 on the right front side) This unit also has a FireWire IEEE 1394 port, a memory card reader, a VGA out, sound out/mic in, Ethernet and Modem, and CDRW/DVDR inputs. Unfortunately for me, there is no parallel port for my laser jet printer, though a USB adapter will suit me just fine. I find the layout of the inputs foreign, as I am used to having majority of the inputs on the back of a computer, though on this unit, the battery pack occupies 85% of the rear of the unit.

    Wireless:

    This unit has 802.11G, with a max 54MBPS, and it picks up signals that friends of mine cannot pick up on campus, or out and about in town. The signal does not drop off, ever, and it has been very quick in usage, picking up signals, and connecting to signals.

    <st1:place>Battery</st1:place>:

    The 6-cell battery life is at <st1:time Minute="45" Hour="2">2:45</st1:time> hours when unplugged, which I am told is low by today's standards, though I know it is better than many older units. I am very happy with the battery life, because this life extends over to heavier usage with the screen up fairly bright. I know that Gateway offers an extended life battery for the sister model they offer (same case design as eMachines unit) on their site (Check for the M320 extended life 9-cell battery here) <o:p></o:p>

    Operating System and Software:

    The included software with this unit is: Microsoft Works 8.0, Money 2005, MS Digital Image Starter Ed. Trial, Bug Fix, Nero 6, Adobe Reader 7, Power DVD, MS Office 2003 Trial (60 Days), McAfee Internet Security Suite 90 day trial, AOI 6 month subscription. I found the trial software for McAfee easy to use, whereas the MS Office registration was time consuming and inconvenient. I found Bug Fix, a program created by eMachines, to be very good at finding updates for all my installed software, and for my particular notebook. The standard operating system loaded on this unit is Windows XP Home, and it is the only available option from eMachines at this time. A single compressed DVD is included to restore the unit to its original software configuration, and a partition is set up on the hard drive that can also take care of restoring the computer (F11 at startup, when indicated on the screen) Overall, I appreciated the free software, such as MS Works, and appreciate eMachine's Bug Fix software immensely.

    Customer Support:

    As mentioned under the screen section, I had to return this unit in the first week for a warped, bowing out LCD bezel near the right side LCD hinge. It was returned within 3-4 days and I have been a happy camper since. The tech support was friendly, and I was connected after 7 seconds wait time! This IS typical of eMachines customer support, and I believe it is the chief reason they have received customer support awards recently. A 3 year warranty is available on this unit for $129 within the first 3 months, and the sale goes off after that, in which you have until the 9<SUP>th</SUP> month of purchase to buy the 3 year warranty for $159. From personal experience in the past, eMachines has fixed the old laptop free outside of the warranty period, however, I feel on this unit I will be purchasing the extended warranty (just in case, and due to the build) Technical support is available in chat, live by phone, and through email. I have found that calling customer support gets you to less competent support, and recommend you exclusively call technical support! This has been the case EVERY time I have called, word to the wise.

    Complaints:

    I have no complaints regarding this notebook, though I feel it should be shipped standard with one gig of memory (even for a standard user) or it tends to lag.

    Praises:

    I absolutely love the weight of this unit, the screen brightness, vividness, and quality, as it does not flicker or become wavy when being touched or used in general. The graphics card, screen, and customer support superceeded my expectations, no questions! Also, the price is fabulous, though for $200 more a similar HP notebook might have a tougher build to it. Nevertheless, this is a thin and light budget performance notebook, and for someone looking for a desktop replacement that will do it all at a budget, I recommend this computer. What do you really like about this notebook and how has it superceded your expectations? I also didn't like the side-positioned USB drives on this unit, but over time, I found it was easier to plug in accessories like a thumb drive this way, versus reaching behind the laptop to plug it in.

    Conclusion:

    This is hands down the best laptop for $715 dollars for the AMD, performance, mobile user! I cannot recommend any other brand to you at this price range either, as eMachines/Gateway and Arima have teamed up to make one of the best notebooks around. If you want a widescreen, don't look here, I would suggest a heavy, solid Dell or HP, but if you want a thin and light performance computer, this is the only computer for you. Available exclusively at: http://www.walmart.comor on eBay search "emachines W4620" from TopmanComputers reseller.

     
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  2. Andrew Baxter

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    Nice insight on this laptop that I'm sure a lot of people have seen and wondered about at Wal Mart! Seems like you're super happy with the purchase here, this could be a great buy for many mainstream customers, it just depends on your needs really -- if you're a road warrior avoid for sure, the build quality simply isn't there, but for mostly stationary or moving around the house needs this should be fine.

    Nice insight on Arima being the ODM and for the tech support tip.
     
  3. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    $715? Wow, I thought it would be closer to $900. Great deal, especially considering it has an 80GB HDD and an AMD Turion processor.

    Yeah, upgrading the RAM definitely helps performance. It's not meant for gaming, but Quake 3 and other older games shouldn't pose a problem for the X200M. It's the best integrated graphics processor out there.

    That's a solid notebook for your needs; congrats!

    Chaz
     
  4. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Good review!

    It seems like a fantasti laptop for that price. A good plus s definately the weight 5.5lb. Similar laptops of the same screen size usually are 6lb+.
     
  5. flanken

    flanken Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Very nice review! That's a remarkably good laptop for a price like that! 2:45 isn't spectacular battery life, but it's pretty good for a budget notebook, most of which include an undersized battery.

    Oddly enough, if you look at my review in my sig, you'll notice that this eMachines has the exact same touchpad and keyboard as the Quanta KN1. Strange coincidence.
     
  6. dryanwilson

    dryanwilson Notebook Enthusiast NBR Reviewer

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    check out arima's site--yours actually looks like an arima model I've seen in the past...( a performance model! )
     
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    flanken Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Actually, mine's a Quanta; Quanta itself is an ODM. Good guess, though! :)
     
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    jsis Notebook Evangelist

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    See, I would rather buy this than the budget notebook Lenovo is releasing...
     
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    Nice review. I never expected eMachines to do such a decent job with a laptop.
     
  10. jtom

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    Decent for $700.
     
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    bani Notebook Enthusiast

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    Nice review. I had bought this laptop for my father. He likes it mostly. Only complaint is that the laptop gets hot. Did u notice the problem. I guess since its thin the ventilation has not been designed properly.
     
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    The nine cell has been unconfirmed in that no one has tried it yet. I know for a fact that it will stick out, as it does on the Gatway M320. However, there is a nice jump in battery life with it!

    It's funny, because basically all of eMachines since the eSlate 400MHZ have been made my arima. Some have been better than others, with the major disadvantages in the past being overheating and cracking hinges.

    My unit gets a bit warm on the keyboard, but not any hotter than many other units I have used. As of now, the fan kicks on high only occationally, so the cooling right now seems acceptible.
     
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    ok, i grabbed a pny 512mb pc2700 ($63.94 - $9 coupon - $15 mail-in rebate = $39.94). works great.

    i resized the ntfs partition to 48gb and will be installing linux on it in the next few days. we'll see what works and what doesn't.

    any idea what the expected runtime would be from the gateway m320 9 cell pack?
     
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    Seems like I remember hearing it was 4.5 for the turion.
     
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    anyone tried replacing the ****py broadcom 54g with an atheros 54a/b/g ?
     
  18. bani

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    keyboard is a bit flimsy. the right arrow key already came loose, one of the little metal hooks that hold the key down was bent and the key came off. i repaired it with needlenose pliers, but it's obvious it was a manufacturing defect that should have been caught during QC but was missed.

    the 4200rpm hitachi is a bit slow, i might upgrade to a 5400 when i get the chance.

    my display has 0 dead pixels, yay!
     
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    I have seen conflicting reports. 6 cell sounds right to me.
     
  21. dryanwilson

    dryanwilson Notebook Enthusiast NBR Reviewer

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    Also, the emachines site is incorrect, this battery will NOT fit the W4605 or W4620--that is the M series battery---totally different shape--would NEVER fit in the W series.

    Emachines is having alot of quality issues on their website since the gateway move.
     
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    I have not tried replacing the wireless card--I am getting good enough reception for my application.
     
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    I did some additional research on the gateway M320 (cousin) keyboard and verified there are potential issues with this keyboard--alot of replacements out there.... Not sure if this is good or bad, time will tell.
     
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    the W4620's ethernet is actually gigabit ethernet, not 10/100 :)
     
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    just a little warning to anyone planning to wipe and reload xp pro or whatnot on this notebook. the 4gb partition contains the drivers, so back it up before deleting it.
     
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    ok.. I've been reading and it looks like no one has bought the 8 cell replacement (from eMachine) for the w4620 (i think). If you have replaced it please tell us how long the battery last. Also, i noticed that m320 gateway battery was said to fit this model (is this true). If it is does the 9 cell (m320) battery work for the w4620 and how long does the battery last? I greatly appreciate it as i will probably buy this steel of a deal laptop and many others.
     
  28. Dustymack

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    I got my eMachines w4620 in the mail last week. I looked at the battery and compared it to the m320 and looks identical pluss the specs match. I cant afford the battery now but i will get it in the future(ie. 9cells).The battery shown on eMachines website looks like the wrong battery (i would recomend the 9cell from gateway). The pros of this notebook is that it is light, cd/dvdburner works good, lcd looks great,and its pritty fast. Its been a week since i bought this notebook and the lower lcd bezal is starting to worp (you would hardly ever notice it). I think its the lights (maby circut bord) in the lcd bezal that heat up and that is what couses the worping.The brodcom wireless nic only works with "G" networks and wont pick up "B" or "A"(well at least its G). I like the fact that you can open a lach and clean the prossesser easy (also good for moding). I dont like the power cord by the cd/dvd burner (it gets in the way) and same thing go's for the usb port on that side.
     
  29. Dustymack

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    Well I got board so I decided to fix my own warped LCD bezel. It took me a while to think of something that would resist the heat generated buy the chip that controls the two light on the bottom as well a the LCD back light. Then I downed on me that silicone can resist high tempercher and holds well after it sets. I was amazed how easy it was to take the bezel off. Once taken off be careful because the bezel is flimsy and easy to break. Once off apply a decent bead horizontally on the top side where the bottomed bezel meets the LCD. Here is the hard part…Put it back together and find some way to keep the bezel flush with the metal behind it. If you notice two inches from the right hinge the chip actually pushes the bezel out so you have to figure out a way to push it in and keep it that way so the silicone get a good hold. I actual held it in for about an hour (it sucked). I used the silicone that you use to seal windows. It takes 30min to become non tacky and I think 24 hours fully cure. It’s been five day’s since the mod with my notebook running 24/7 and no warping took place. I even tested it buy moving the screen and charging the battery and no warping. Also silicone won’t short any thing. Next I want to figure out some way to water cool my laptop. Theirs enough room but things like a water pump and supplying power to the fan and water pump are going to be tough (I want every thing concealed with in the notebook).
     
  30. Dustymack

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    Well... Today i tryed to install windows xp 64bit. I got the broadcom nic(not wireless) to work but could not get the sound to work or the 5 in one card reader. I hope new drivers come out for 64bit. :(
     
  31. Dustymack

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    Well I got board again so I decided to benchmark my laptop with software that is better for benchmarking. Futuremark’s 3Dmax03 is what I used instead of that lame pi bench(no offence). I benched my system 3 time and ran all 4 game tests both cpu tests and 5 “feature test”. After I ran it 3 times on “XP Pro” (not lame home edition) I got an average score of 1040 with updated catalyst drivers. I also measured the cpu tmp at full load (I used prime 95 set to normal cpu load). I was surprised that there was no onboard temp gage so I bought a digital gage. What was more surprising is that the temps coming off the heatsync above the cpu where hitting 50C and above. Unfortunately I couldn’t get a actual temp of the dye of the cpu at full load to see if it is below 50C (I hope its below 50C). I also replace the thermal paste with some quality artic thermal grease which seemed to lower the temperature down allot. I also learned not to use Windex to clean my lcd (it destroys it I guess),but to use isopropyl alcohol and water. Its easy to make at home too. 50% isopropyl alcohol and 50% water mixed will make your lcd look brand new. By the way its been a month or two since my lcd bezel fix and its still holding up. I also found a water pump that is .93X.56X1.9 (small) and might be used to water cool my notebook. That’s if any one cares… hello