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    Windows 7 vs Windows Vista Performance Comparison

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by dietcokefiend, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    After a few weeks of use I have to say that I love windows 7. But I dont see anything that makes it any better then a well setup vista PC. New GUI and some neat features I dont use. Everything else is the same for me.

    I thought I was having driver issues but I later realized I had goofed and forgot to install something. System update 4 helped a lot. No sense for me to go back, but Im not seeing the difference.
     
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    This is a valid viewpoint and I wholeheartedly agree. I don't plan on moving all my PCs to Windows 7 by the simple observation that there will be little to gain in my situation for an hours worth of time upgrading.
     
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    See thats what went through my mind when my windows 7 came in the mail. I constantly asked myself "Do I really need/want to do this???". Getting things setup just right takes time and effort and my vista setup was pretty much perfect. But then again the curious side of me won and I moved to windows 7 (not upgraded).
     
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    Like I said. Conspiracy theories are for the vain and prideful.
     
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    Bog Losing it...

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    You know, your posts really are full of nonsense. I can't add much else to this fact.
     
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    LOL


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    windows 7 looks a little bland compared to vista though,
     
  9. Bog

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    Too bad I wasn't joking. :rolleyes:
     
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    Whelp, regarding El Reg...if you'd read the articles you'd realize that many of the article titles are intentionally and cleverly couched in satire, the substance of the articles are generally of substantially higher factual quality than a number of other technical journals I could mention.

    As for this whole 'conspiracy theory' tack you have taken, the term has been vilified and applied far too generally to the point that it is not useful in educated discussion. Let's be specific. Regarding the point i was making, i.e., built in provisions for expediting investigation into a MS user's computer based activities, there is simply no factual issue. If the info was not stored, the ms tools would be of no value or purpose would they :) Since they exist..the data they are intended to reveal must also exist. Since it is unlikely that the users intentionally stored all this information, it would seem likely to a rational being that the MS programmers took care of this little detail for them, and son of gun, it turns out that they have done exactly that. As someone who has intermittently spent some 40 years dealing with one aspect or another of both military and civilian intelligence issues, for a number of different government and corporate entitities, I can assure u, what you (and I) do on our computers is pretty much an open book to those who have decided they have a need to know what we are doing. Win7 takes this process to a new level, and not by accident. Frankly, I (and many others) have concluded that future world conflicts will be in substantial part, fought in cyberspace. If you think that the US, Japanese, Brits, Russians, Chinese, Koreans, not to mention the Germans, French, Israelis etc. have not been engaged in serious preparations to exploit and defend against this eventuality, you have a drastically flawed view of the nature of humanity, and the motivations and capabilities of those who lead its constituent societies.

    But enough of that :) Life is short, and the prevailing fantasy view of the world is sooooo much more comfortable and inviting, all is well :)

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    As you probably know in working in the computer industry for so long, it takes a whole team of developers to maintain the software you speak of. And that data stored is in turn available to any team of developers in Microsoft. Or any lawyer working for Microsoft for that matter.

    So if they were hiding what they really were storing, well, that's a lot of people to keep zipped up.

    Conspiracy theorists and their fantasy world. It is easier to conjure a world where you are always right than live in a world where you are potentially wrong.
     
  12. Bog

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    I think surfasb more or less addressed your point. Its true that not all conspiracy theories are nonsense, but there are very few that are true. The one you are proposing is made even less likely by the lack of evidence.

    On another note, the question of cyber warfare really is another question that need not be discussed on such a thread. Needless to say it is an important field of development for all technologically advanced countries, but nobody said anything to the contrary, so I'll leave it at that.
     
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    Surf, your points are well taken, however, just because a *large* number of people are necessarily involved, is not determinative of the existence of a coordinated effort towards a desired outcome, which in the end, is what a 'conspiracy' is all about.
    My father happened to be one of the many thousands involved in the Manhattan Project...a relatively *secret* undertaking involving vast numbers of people all directed at a single goal. Seems to fit the definition you are employing does it not?

    Let me try a different tack of argument. Putting aside the apparent threat to our country's security such a posting would entail :)), suppose if you would for a moment, that you and bog were appointed the heads of our cyber intelligence agencies, both as defenders and cyber aggressors. Can you conceive of any circumstances under which you would NOT take any and all possible steps to ensure that you were capable of cracking/hacking/tracing/monitoring etc. all data storage and streams you could figure out how to access? I'll presume, for the moment, that in keeping with your official obligations and the duties and goals of the job, that you would. Why then, do you here steadfastly maintain that those persons actually holding those positions, have not? :)

    (Fortunately, (or unfortunately depending on your views on 'national security', I will assure you, that though somewhat belatedly, they have- tho the *top guns* in this field, remain the Brits. They seem to have a unique knack for skullduggery, electronic or otherwise :)

    As for differentiating the collection, storage, and access of cyber information from the activities of 'cyber warfare', with the exception of physical destruction of cyber mechanisms, the techniques and tactics appear to me to be pretty much the same, varying only in degree.

    Watch the headlines, for with trials of the detainees now coming to New York, a great deal more of the details of these techniques will no doubt be exposed by the defense, as they did in the previous ones. This is unfortunate, as it was the disclosure in the earlier trials of the monitoring techniques used to track Bin Laden's activities that resulted in his abandoning his previous methods in time to escape. Oh, and for a really good laugh, check out the recent reports on the guy who sold the CIA some bogus 'intelligence' software that resulted in Tenet putting out a world wide alert :) These guys just crack me up.

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    Right, I'm going to remove my subscription from this thread. Take care now.
     
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    In case you didn't take a history class, the Russian penetrated the Manhattan project. It took the US about four years to develop the bomb. And that is with imported scientists. The Russians detonated their bomb in 1949 with no outside help. Coincidence?

    The US detonated their first thermonuclear device in '52. Soviets followed closed in '53. Coincidence?
     
  16. Bog

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    Surfasb my friend, there is no point in arguing with conspiracy theorists. As far as they're concerned, there's always a conspiracy. :rolleyes:
     
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    Google Chrome does take numbers and checks with advertisers

    For all of its positive reviews, Chrome does have its critics. Their major complaint is that Chrome creates a unique ID through which a user can be theoretically identified.
     
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    I was fortunate to sit through the vista craze, 7 seems much more refined and the fact it can better handle HD video is a big plus for me.
     
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    does w7 handle services differently from vista other than the fact that it loads less of them at start up?
     
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    For the most part it loads pretty much the same groups, just in different order. Many are deferred so as to give the illusion of a faster loading op sys, but if you clock the time from start up till the HD light quits blinking, its about the same :)

    It is an *evolved* vista, but, for the gamer, a well managed and tweaked vista 64 will in many instances, out perform its win 7 offspring, BUT, If you like the "apple experience", you will like win7 very much more than xp or vista.

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    Sigh, though I was pretty young, I met Dr. Oppenheimer (a fellow Harvard man) on several occasions. As I said, my father worked on the project with him, and subsequently saw him occasionally on one matter or another over many years. Your summation of *historical fact is materially incorrect. The value of a history class in the american public school system is subject to considerable international debate. For example, when I arrived for my first theoretical physics class at UCLA, for our first piece of homework, our internationally revered professor stated simply:
    " Go outside, enjoy the sunshine, look at a pretty girl (there were unfortunately no women in that small graduate level class) and forget everything you've ever been told about the nature of matter, its all a lie. Your education begins tomorrow." The next day he proceeded to prove his words true.

    oh, for *conspiracy* crowd, I offer up Seer's Law number 4.
     
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