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    Toshiba Satellite Pro A210 Review

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by dietcokefiend, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    by Kevin O'Brien

    Toshiba just released the Satellite Pro series notebook line, which is a toned down business version of their popular Satellite models. Some of the key changes include the loss of the glossy cover, black instead of silver keyboard, and the loss of some quick access media keys. Overall the notebook is basically the same as its fancier brothers, but with a smaller pricetag for small businesses.


    Our Satellite Pro A210 had the following configuration:

    • 15.4-inch WXGA (1280 x 800) CCFL glossy screen
    • AMD M690V chipset
    • AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-60
    • 2GB DDR2-667 SDRAM (supports up to 4GB DDR2 SDRAM)
    • 120GB 5400 RPM SATA HDD
    • DVD SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) drive
    • ATI X1200 Integrated Graphics
    • Ethernet, Atheros 802.11b/g
    • VGA, S-Video, four USB 2.0 ports, integrated media reader (MS, SD, xD)
    • Windows XP Pro
    • Battery: 4000mAh 4-cell, 75w AC Adapter
    • Dimensions: (WxDxH): 14.3” x 10.5” x 1.32-1.55” (without feet)
    • Weight starts at 5.9 pounds with 6-cell battery (5lbs 15.9oz actual)
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    Build and Design

    The Satellite Pro A210 has a nice sleek design with very soft rounded edges, sloped palm rests, and even a glossy screen that you don’t usually find on business notebooks. The top cover features a matte semi-gloss texture instead of having the gloss finish found out the Satellite models. The benefit of the new texture is that it's more resistant to handprints and smudges. Opening the top cover we find more changes from the consumer line, with the multimedia access keys missing, high-end speakers gone, and the keyboard color being black instead of silver. Once you get past those changes the notebook is practically identical to the consumer Satellite line.

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    The buttons feel very solid, support under the keyboard is firm, display latches are solid, and support behind the LCD is excellent. Pressing firmly behind the LCD did not produce any rippling effect. Chassis flex is minimal if there at all, letting you pick up the laptop from the edge of the palm rest without any sagging.

    Screen

    The screen is a glossy style, coming in at a 1280x800 native resolution. Colors are very vibrant, and viewing angles are decent. You start to notice some muting of colors as you move above or below the screen, but it is very acceptable in comparison to other models. Black levels do tend to wash out when not in the optimal viewing angle, but are still acceptable. Below are some screenshots showing off the screen at various viewing angles.

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    Speakers and Audio

    The speakers sound like gigantic ear buds with the volume being blasted at a high level. Almost all bass and midrange are missing from music and movies. For basic use the speakers should be fine if you have no other choice, but headphones would be highly recommended for travel use.

    Processor and Performance

    This model came equipped with the AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60, and the ATI X1200 integrated graphics. For standard computer use this notebook is no slouch, but it really lags with gaming performance. Although it is common for integrated graphics to fall behind in gaming tasks, the ATI X1200 scored almost 40 percent less than the Intel X3100 in 3DMark06.

    wPrime is a program that forces the processor to do recursive mathematical calculations, the advantage of this program is that it is multi-threaded and can use both processor cores at once, thereby giving more accurate benchmarking measurements than Super Pi.

    Notebook / CPU wPrime 32M time
    Toshiba Satellite Pro A210 (AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60 @ 2.0GHz)
    46.593s
    Dell XPS M1530 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz)
    37.485s
    Portable One SXS37 (Core 2 Duo T7250 @ 2.0GHz)
    41.908s
    Sony VAIO NR (Core 2 Duo T5250 @ 1.5GHz) 58.233s
    Toshiba Tecra A9 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 38.343s
    Toshiba Tecra M9 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 37.299s
    HP Compaq 6910p (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz) 40.965s
    Sony VAIO TZ (Core 2 Duo U7600 @ 1.20GHz) 76.240s
    Zepto 6024W (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz) 42.385s
    Lenovo T61 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 37.705s
    Alienware M5750 (Core 2 Duo T7600 @ 2.33GHz) 38.327s
    Hewlett Packard DV6000z (Turion X2 TL-60 @ 2.0GHz) 38.720s
    Samsung Q70 (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2.0GHz) 42.218s
    Acer Travelmate 8204WLMi (Core Duo T2500 @ 2.0GHz) 42.947s
    Samsung X60plus (Core 2 Duo T7200 @ 2.0GHz) 44.922s
    Zepto Znote 6224W (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2.0GHz) 45.788s
    Samsung Q35 (Core 2 Duo T5600 @ 1.83GHz) 46.274s
    Samsung R20 (Core Duo T2250 @ 1.73GHz) 47.563s

    3DMark06 comparison results for graphics performance:

    Notebook 3DMark06 Score
    Toshiba Satellite Pro A210 (2.0GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60, ATI X1200) 322 3DMarks
    Sony VAIO NR (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100) 504 3DMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1520 (2.0GHz Intel T7300, NVIDIA 8600M GT) 2,905 3DMarks
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,408 3DMarks
    Samsung Q70 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300 and nVidia 8400M G GPU) 1,069 3DMarks
    Asus F3sv-A1 (Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz, Nvidia 8600M GS 256MB) 2,344 3DMarks
    Alienware Area 51 m5550 (2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7600 256MB 2,183 3DMarks
    Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 1526 (1.66GHz Core Duo, nVidia 7600Go 256 MB) 2,144 3DMarks
    Samsung X60plus (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7200, ATI X1700 256MB) 1,831 3DMarks
    Asus A6J (1.83GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 128MB) 1,819 3DMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16 GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 827 3DMarks


    PCMark05 measures overall notebook performance:

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    Toshiba Satellite Pro A210 (2.0GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60, ATI X1200) 3,020 PCMarks
    Dell XPS M1530 (2.20GHz Intel T7500, Nvidia 8600M GT 256MB) 5,412 PCMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1520 (2.0GHz Intel T7300, NVIDIA 8600M GT) 4,616 PCMarks
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS) 4,591 PCMarks
    Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 4,153 PCMarks
    Lenovo 3000 V200 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 3,987 PCMarks
    Lenovo T60 Widescreen (2.0GHz Intel T7200, ATI X1400 128MB) 4,189 PCMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 4,234 PCMarks
    Fujitsu N6410 (1.66GHz Core Duo, ATI X1400) 3,487 PCMarks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60, Nvidia Go 7800GTX) 5,597 PCMarks
    Sony Vaio SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 3,637 PCMarks
    Asus V6J (1.86GHz Core Duo T2400, Nvidia Go 7400) 3,646 PCMarks

    HD Tune results:

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    Keyboard and Touchpad

    The keyboard on this laptop is very comfortable to type on. The key throws are just the right length, very little finger pressure is required, and the edges are very defined, yet softly rounded. This allows you to type very quickly for long periods of time with ease. Each key press is also very quiet, so you can type notes or chat during class without annoying those around you. It has some mild flex in spots above the optical bay, but it is very mild.

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    The touchpad resides in a recessed cavity, which helps to keep your fingers in the right spot without slipping out. Its texture is similar to a sheet of paper. The mouse buttons below it provide shallow feedback, and I would have liked a bit more throw to each press.

    Ports and Features

    Front: SD Card reader, Headphone and Microphone jacks, and Volume control.

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    Rear: Display Hinge

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    Left: VGA, CPU Exhaust Vent, S-Video, LAN, 2 USB, Expresscard/54, and Firewire.

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    Right: Two USB, Modem, Optical drive, AC plug, and Kensington Lock slot.

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    Wireless

    Reception of the internal wireless card is very nice, picking up most networks around it. Depending on your area, it can be hard to compare signal strength, since many out of the box wireless configurations will put the a network on the same channel as those around it. This can cause a bunch of dropout problems that no wireless card can get around. I didn’t experience this in my area, but your location could be different.

    Heat and Noise

    The cooling system on the A210 is very refined, and near silent during use. Case temperatures were kept to a minimum, and the palmrests were basically room temperature even have hours of running. The only hotspots on the notebook were the center of the top and center of the bottom, and even those were fairly mild compared to other notebooks. Fan noise was always at a minimum, with a low speed that you could only hear with your ear put up against the vent. Below are images with the average temperatures listed in degrees Fahrenheit.

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    Battery

    Battery life was below average, only reaching 2 hours and 26 minutes under mild use with the screen brightness down to about 75 percent. Carrying around the AC adapter would be a must with this notebook for school or travel use.


    Conclusion

    Compared to the Toshiba Tecra line that has some problems with high heat output and odd build quality problems, the Satellite Pro A210 is a step in the right direction. Build quality is very good, with only minor flex in certain spots. Case heat output is minimal and very lap friendly and it has an incredibly quiet cooling fan. My only real complaint is the lack of graphics cards options, that you can find in the small business models from other manufacturers.

    Pros

    • Nice bright screen with good color reproduction
    • Quiet CPU fan
    • Nice sleek design
    • Case temperatures are barely above room temperature

    Cons

    • Second HD bay with no connectors
    • Weak graphics performance
     
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  2. Vizel

    Vizel Notebook Consultant

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    Nice Review...

    one thing though, can you give us dimension of this laptop? I mean you gave a "dimension" of something up front, but I think that wasn't an accurate dimension of the laptop... was that power adapter? =D
     
  3. Steven87

    Steven87 Notebook Consultant

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    46 seconds is a pretty disapointing wPrime score. Going from the results in this thread, the AMD Turion X2 TL-60 gets around 38-39 seconds in Vista, and the single result with XP got 43 seconds. My TL-56 (1.8ghz) gets 43 seconds with Vista.
     
  4. Jerry Jackson

    Jerry Jackson Administrator NBR Reviewer

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    The dimensions are fixed. Kevin just doesn't know the difference between the dimensions of the Toshiba battery and the dimensions of the notebook.
    ;)
     
  5. Andrew Baxter

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    Kevin, do you remember how many processes were on this notebook at startup, it was pretty decent right -- as in not as much bloatware as your typical Toshiba?
     
  6. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    Ran wprime again, verified the 2 core setting, and this is what I got. Even slower this time.

    57 processes with the AV software still in place.
     

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  7. mujtaba

    mujtaba ZzzZzz Super Moderator

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    Nice review, thanks Kevin :)

    Is it just me, or is the wPrime performance of this laptop low for the specs ?
    Can you try unloading some of the programs are trying the wPrime again ?
     
  8. jam12

    jam12 Notebook Deity

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    Tis a decent laptop - I had one and returned just cos there some niggles that really got on my nerves. Especially the lid, looks very cheap and also feels weak compared to my current sony. Also, I found vertical viewing angles a real nuisance.
     
  9. skywalker

    skywalker Business Notebook FTW!!

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    I think there is must be a driver-related problem causing Radeon X1200's 3DMark score falls behind Intel x3100.
     
  10. JabbaJabba

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    Thanks for the review Kevin. A decent notebook - nothing more, nothing less.
     
  11. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    I uninstalled the AV software and the time dropped to 45 seconds.
     
  12. John B

    John B Notebook Prophet

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    Good work Kevin.
     
  13. manenkothari

    manenkothari Newbie

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    I think Toshiba satellite is the worst computer I have ever seen in my life. I have bought my Toshiba Satellite 3 years back and I have not even used it for more than 10 months. Most of the part of last 3 years Toshiba laptop was useless as this series had a manufacturing defect of being black out. There was a court order to the company to extend the warranty for one more year. I got it repaired last month of the warranty period after lot of pain and it is black out again. Computer does not start at all. When I called company, they told me either keep buying warranties to fix this or sorry they can not fix tehir technical defect for free every second month. NOW I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MY FAULT, MAY BE I TRUSTED TOSHIBA BRAND

    I spoiled my money by buying Toshiba, Please think twenty time before you buy Toshiba
     
  14. skywalker

    skywalker Business Notebook FTW!!

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    Hmm...it could happen to any brands. I think you just out of luck.
    My old Satellite 2410(P4 system) just run fine till now, though its battery is dead now. Preferably, I don't like buying Toshiba, but I find its build quality is better than that of most Acer.
    For now, Toshiba Satellite M200 & A200 series and have improved build quality. Many of my friends bought Satellite M200 series and I think it's a good machine overall.
     
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    julio_514 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I recently bought an A210 and wanted to share some thoughts.
    I primarily bought this laptop for work and I really think it will do a great job for this purpose. However, I played some games on it and must say that I am quite disapointed. For example, call of duty 1 (a 2003 game) displayed really low performance at lowest details and resolution (I didn't noticed exact FPS but it was not fluid at all). On the other hand, AOE3 (2006) did quite well at high details (except for the shader quality option). But in general game performance is very poor, probably because of the ati x1200 which seems to be absolute crap. Now I payed 500$ for this laptop on boxing day and for this price, I am quite satisfied of what I've got so far.
     
  16. Hybridchild

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    Hi i was just wondering does anyone know if there is any way to add the connectors for a second drive to a A210? My gf just got a 1B1 last week and i have a couple of spare 2.5" drives so i was going to add one when i saw the second bay put when i opened it i was rather confused by the lack of connectors :confused:

    I have very little experience with notebooks so this left me rather stumped (which is kinda embarrassing given i've been building Desktops since i was 15 :eek: ) Is the bay usable at all or is it just a holdover from another model that used the same case?

    Thanks in advance for you help.
     
  17. Mondodav

    Mondodav Newbie

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    I have read that the graphics are poor for gaming, but are they enough to watch films on DVD and avi's?

    Has this model an integrated camera? Quality?
     
  18. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    Graphics are fine for DVD's and avi's.
     
  19. abuser4lif3

    abuser4lif3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am satisfied with graphics... They are great on Toshiba laptops generally spoken... But this one is really suitable for DVD's and AVI's .
     
  20. artom

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    please a need be a driver-related causing Radeon X1200's
     
  21. Mondodav

    Mondodav Newbie

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    Thank you very much for your help... I also want to say that the review is very good and useful...