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    Sony VAIO S270 Review (pics, specs)

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by mysngoterased, Aug 18, 2005.

  1. mysngoterased

    mysngoterased Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    The Choice

    Like many who are about to become college freshmen, I found myself in need of a laptop. To be honest, I knew absolutely ZIP about laptops at that time. My first stop was at Dell after I heard about the $750 off coupon and without giving it a second thought, I purchased the Inspiron 6000 and soon returned it because of its weight, bulkiness, and mediocre performance and screen. Then, after a month of researching and comparing, I finally narrowed my choices to the Sony VAIO S360 and the Asus W3V. Both were so evenly matched in my mind that I only chose the S360 because of its better touchpad.

    The Buying Experience

    Now that I've decided on a computer, it's time to actually buy it. As most of you know, the VAIO S360 went out of stockat most retailers a long time ago. I finally stumbled on a site called www.euclidcomputers.com that still had a few in stock. However, I saw that they had the VAIO S270 as well, which only varies from the 360 with a DVD-RW drive, but has a slower CPU at 1.6 GHz and a smaller harddrive at 60 gigs. It was cheaper as well and without any more thought, I purchased the computer. The computer totaled to about $1,620 after shipping and was tax free. It took only 3 days to arrive, which is incredible for Euclid computers.

    First Thoughts

    Even though the wait was short, I second guessed myself about this purchase right up until when the delivery man rang the doorbell. Then, I eagerly tore open the box and got my greedy little hands on my new laptop. From that point on, all doubts were dispelled. Here's some quick specs:

    • Processor- Pentium M 725- 1.6 GHz
    • Display- 13.3 in TFT with XBright (glossy type)
    • Video- ATI mobility 9700
    • RAM- 1x512 MB Microdimm pc2700 ddr sdram
    • Harddrive- 60 gig 4200 rpm
    • Multimedia drive- DVD RW
    • Network- 2200 B/G internal wireless
    • Ports- 2x 2.0 USB, Audio, Microphone, Memory stick, port replicator, external monitor, PCMCIA, firewall
    • OS- Windows XP with SP 2

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    Design

    Just about everyone thinks this is one of the sexiest laptops aroundand I would have to agree. The black exterior looks both sleek and professional and the shinyVAIO letters add a touch of style to this already very decadent computer. Open it up and you'll find yourself staring at a beautifully designed keyboard and touchpad. The sides are filled with the standard ports, but there are a few complaints here. First, there is no multicard reader. Second, the little cap for the USB ports looks very cheap and don't fit in with the overall classy design.

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    Sony VAIO S270 Top View

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    Sony VAIO S270 Front View

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    Sony VAIO S270 Right View

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    Sony VAIO S270 Left View

    Screen

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    This is why most of us buy this laptop. This screen can go toe to toe with anything in the market today. There is virtually no flex to the screen, but the screen will ripple if you push very hard on the back. DVDs come to life on the 1280x800 screen. I personally find that resolution too high for normal use so I lower it to 1024x768 while typing and web surfing. The brightness can be adjusted on 8 different levels and can easily be seen outdoors and indoors. No complaints here.

    Sound

    Granted I am not picky about sound, you will be surprised at the quality of soundthe S270 outputswith it's2 tiny speakers. I've watched Matrix Revolutions and Spiderman 2 on this computer with no external speakers and I must say that I am extremely pleased. Although the volume should not be pushed and bass is virtually nonexistent, I find it more than adequate for a laptop ofthis size.

    Keyboard/Touchpad

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    I've been typing this review the entire time on the s270's keyboard and although it's a preference issue, I believe it to be the best laptop keyboard on the market (including IBMs). The depth of each key is shallow, more shallow than the IBM ThinkPad's. I believe that because of this fact, the keyboard feels more comfortable and helps me type faster, but that's just me. Two S buttons on the very top can be customized to do various things like hibernate and mute. A wireless switch on the lower right hand corner is easy access to the wireless. My only complaint here is that the directional keys are undersized, which makes games like Underground Racing 2 difficult. Of course, you can customize those controls to use other keys.

    Like I said before, the touchpad was the only thing that tipped me over the edge into buying this laptop. I hate using a mouse during class because the desks are so small and there's absolutely no place to even put the mouse. Simply taking out the notebook and being ready to go is very important to me and the touchpad delivers here. The touchpad itself is very sensitive and does not to be pressed very hard to get a response. Thetwo buttons on the bottom make very little noise when clicked so other people won't be bothered. No complaints here

    Battery Life

    I must say that this is where the S270 falls short of my expectations. Right out of the box, the battery life was a little more than 2 hours, which really bothered me since I was expecting at least 4. However, like all computers, there was hope. With Centrino hardware control (undervolting the CPU, dynamic switching, and underclockingGPU and using the lowest screen brightness), I got the battery life all the way to a little over 5 hours.

    Heat

    YES, despite what people say, there is still a heat issue with the s270. Without centrino hardware control, this thing gets scalding when playing games and running demanding applications like 3DMark. When I opened up the laptop to apply artic silver, I found the thermal tape completely melted! However, with CHC and Arctic Silver 5, idle temperatures dropped to 43 degrees, but still gets hot when gaming.

    3DMark Benchmark Results

    The 3DMark03 benchmark on this laptop right out of the box was around 2600. Yes, I was disappointed as well since I was expecting around 3000, but there was still hope. After a fresh install of Windows with bloatware removal and the latest modded 5.7 cat drivers, the 3Dmark scorejumped to about 2800. Then I ordered 1GB ofRAM from eBay and with that, the 3Dmark scorewent to about 2950. Finally, with overclocking at 430/230, the 3DMark scorewent to about 3200. Also, I bought the new Hitachi 7K60 hard drive (7200 RPM, 60GB) off ebay and installed it myself (great sense of self satisfaction), but suprisingly, it resulted in no increase in the 3DMark score.

    Actual Gaming

    I mainly used Battlefield 2 (BF2)as my benchmark while testing this computer. After I installed the 5.7 Cat drivers and whileusing 512MB of RAM, playing BF2 at lowest settings and lowest resolutions was averaging 60 Frames Per Second (FPS), very nice! I was as surprised as heck, but the second the resolution was bumped up, the FPS dropped to about 20-24 with 512MB of ram. After I upgraded ram to 1.5GB, the game was playable at highest resolution, 2x AA, some medium settings with dynamic shadows and dynamic lighting turned off (averaging 25-30 fps). Finally, with the new 7200 rpm Hitachi HDD installed, the game was playable at same setting with 35-40 fps.

    CPU

    At 1.6 GHz, my cpu is actually slower than the stock S360's CPU, but for me, it is fast enough, because I use dynamic switching and it's underclocked most of the time anyways. With Super Pi, I calculated 2 million digits in 2 minutes flat, which isn't dissapointing.

    Notebook Time to Calculate Pi to 2 Million Digits
    Sony VAIO S270(1.60 GHzDothan Pentium M) 2m 00s
    Sony VAIO FS680 (1.86 GHz Alviso Pentium M) 1m 53s
    IBM ThinkPad T43 (1.86 GHz Alviso Pentium M)
    1m 45s
    Fujitsu LifeBook N3510 (1.73 GHz Alviso Pentium M) 1m 48s
    Dell Inspiron 6000D (1.6 GHz Alviso Pentium M) 1m 52s
    Dell Inspiron 600M (1.6 GHzDothan Pentium M) 2m 10s
    Sony VAIO S360(1.7 GHzDothan Pentium M) 1m 57s
    Sony VAIO S170P(1.5 GHzDothan Pentium M) 2m 07s
    Sony VAIO S380 (1.86 GHz Alviso Pentium M) 1m

    Final thoughts

    I LOVE THIS COMPUTER! The only major flaw I can think of is the heat and I think of that as a challenge to overcome by changing settings anyway. Tweaking the CPU, underclocking the graphics card, and doing all the other great stuff really helped me learn a lot. Anyways, enough about my computer, lets go onto the guides.

    Upgrade Guide

    But we're not done yet! In order to get your Sony VAIO S series notebook running at top speed and being most efficient you can do things such as upgrading the hard drive, using a coolant for the CPU or simply upgrade your DVD/CD to something more desirable than what you currently have. Read my Sony VAIO S Upgrade Guide to learn how to do all these.

    Pricing and Availability

     
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  2. queshy

    queshy Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Excellent review + upgrade guide. Love that laptop...too bad about the heat. Get a ventilation pad/stand or something like that for when you're at your desk, it might help a bit. I also think if you scale down the CPU andchange the battery settings it could cool it down a bit.
     
  3. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Wow, nice review!!!! Sounds like a great notebook for you!!!

    And great upgrade guide, I like that a lot!

    Good luck with it!!
     
  4. haydini

    haydini Notebook Consultant

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    I love the upgrade guide with the pictures!!! Great Job!! one question though...I thought that the S270 only had the ATI Radeon 9200 and not the 9700 GPU. Would you verify this for me? Thanks
     
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    haydini Notebook Consultant

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    I went to a few review websites that had the specs on the S270B as having an ATI radeon 9200. Not that is matters for most applications but considering how people may consider a 270 or 360 in lieu of a 460/480 because of ever increasing heat issues, they should probably know that difference if they are into gaming at all.
     
  6. mysngoterased

    mysngoterased Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    The s270 is the customizable version of the s360. Most of the unsold s270s now only have the 9200 mr chip. I think you can even get integrated graphics with the s270. Anyways, check euclid computers if you want the 9700 mr.

    Oh, and you're looking at the s270B, which I dont think has the 9700 chip. I have the s270p. try looking for that model instead.
     
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    haydini Notebook Consultant

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    I will......thanks for the tip
     
  8. Masked

    Masked Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good review but it made me wonder, what about the touchpad made you pick it over the Asus? Did you actually get to see the Asus touchpad before purchashing? Pretty hard to see one of those in person without buying it.
     
  9. mysngoterased

    mysngoterased Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    When I went to China for vacation, I saw many asus retail stores. I saw the w3v in one of them and tried it out, but the touchpad was unresponsive and hard to use. However, after I got back and tried another touchpad from a w3v that my friend owns, I found it was quite different and easy to use. Guess it was just a faulty unit.
     
  10. **apprentice**

    **apprentice** Notebook Enthusiast

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    just curious, what is the difference between the 460/480 and the 270/360 beside what you mentioned? I have a buddy set on buy the S460/B but I told him that everyone complains about the heat issue but his words were " every portable device, laptops, dvd players all produce heat, nothing new" How ture is this?
     
  11. singero

    singero Newbie

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    Substantial differece. S460 runs on the new sonoma chipset (19v AC) which generates substantially more heat than the 360's donathon (16v AC) and the HD in the 460 runs about twice as hot as that in the 360.

    I initially bought a 460 and returned it the next day as the heat issue was unacceptable. Bought a 360 and its a completely different machine. Track down a 360 avoid the 460!

    Also i guess the 360 is a bit cooler that the 270 as mine idles at 38 deg.
     
  12. mysngoterased

    mysngoterased Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah, wish this thing would idle at <40 degrees so the stupid fan wouldnt turn on. Oh well, the dvd rw drive is wut i get in exchange.
     
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    mysngoterased Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    the s460 has a bigger ac adapter, less battery life, faster harddrive at 5400 rpm, pci express nvidia 6200 go gfx card, cheaper and better DDR2 ram, faster cpu with more bus speed, DVD RW drive standard, and some other stuff I don't remember.

    Here's what I think. If you want cheap performance, go with the s460. It has faster harddrive, faster cpu, and faster and MUCH CHEAPER ram with relatively the same graphics card (if you know how to overclock). However, if you are willing to shell out the $270+ for a gig of microdimm ram off ebay (300+ from swissbit), go with the s270/s360 for the batterylife and cooler cpu.
     
  14. **apprentice**

    **apprentice** Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks, i'll let my buddy know, also those tips on how to inprove your s Series vaio, can they be done to the s460 like you did to the s270, example the arctic silver to decrease heat?
     
  15. mysngoterased

    mysngoterased Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    Definitely. I believe the 2 only differ structrually in a few screws.
     
  16. **apprentice**

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    Good, that means more cool point for my buddy to buy it. Thanks :cool:
     
  17. Guikita

    Guikita Newbie

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    I'm thinking about buying the S360 as the Sony Outlet Store over here has some good deals on them. The one hang up though is the max ram of 1gb.

    Mysngoterased, I saw in your specs you have the S270 and it's listed as having a max 1GB of Ram, but you have 1.5 GB in your profile. Am I missing something?

    In the specs it says that the S360 can only take 1GB of RAM. I have an extra 1GB chip I'd like to put in there with the 512MB chip. Would it take the chip and just register it as 512MB? I was told that it may damage the RAM. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? The other option is to take out the 512MB chip and put in the 1GB chip and just leave one slot empty. Does anyone know if the S360 RAM slots would take a 1GB chip?

    BTW - Thanks for you guide! I'm looking forward to messing with my 360 when I get it.