Sager NP8850 Review Discussion

some ppl just prefer a portable, high end laptop. me, i would rather use a well equipped laptop + external mouse over a desktop anyday.

could i ask u where u saw that the NP8850's had "less than great" screens? i'm not even sure why anyone would really worry about battery life from a decked out gaming laptop, in the first place. that's like askin for a 750HP ferrari that has 25-30 MPG.

thanks for the info. i've heard alot of mixed stuff about ES CPU's so i'm just a bit skeptical. stories about fake CPU's and really under performing CPU's have pushed me away from that route.

 

could i ask u where u saw that the NP8850's had "less than great" screens? i'm not even sure why anyone would really worry about battery life from a decked out gaming laptop, in the first place. that's like askin for a 750HP ferrari that has 25-30 MPG.

My take on the screen is from 2 of my employee's with sager laptop's with the 5870m, the screen 1920 screen looks horrible. Comparision with a Ferrari is mute. dont compare a plain jane laptop with a custom designed supercar. Clevo is much better compared with a Mustang, every fool has one and thinks its the best. Sometimes you need to honest and realize if Acer, HP, Dell or any other company made a 480m laptop you would not be reading this review. Clevo is just miss match components thrown in a off the shelf case. NOT a FERRAR.
For the money you spend the case and screen are horrific IMO.

 

ah, thanks for the quick reply!

lets me know not to take yur post seriously.

p.s. - a sager is definitely not on the same level as something as mainstream as a mustang. sager/clevos are special laptops focused for consumers that want top notch performance/quality, and know what they are lookin for. i, personally, have only heard about their legendary performance, but have unfortunately never really had the chance to mess with one. that'll change very soon.

 

That's too bad. Scare tactics win again.

 

Oh, forgot to respond to this. For the record, as I recall, the issues only occurred at the top end of the CPU operation, as the chips started to throttle around 80 degrees Celsius, and would be a bit unstable at the top end. So for daily operation, the issues I was referring to would generally go unnoticed, unless you habitually ran programs that would stress your system. I didn't mean to imply that the ES chips were unusable in daily use (although I personally probably still wouldn't bother with them... partly because I'm not sure I need that much power in the first place ), just wanted to let people know about potential problems, especially if they actually needed to run things that might stress their systems that high.

 

The larger Sager Clevo D900/D901C notebooks with the 1920x1200 screens didn't have the best screens. I reviewed several of them.

However, the 1080p LED screens in recent Sagers (15.6 and 17.3) are the best-quality screens I have seen on a Sager to date. Bright & clear. They're not as good as the RGB LED screens found on Dell notebooks and the like, but good enough.

 

How good is the screen quality and picture quality compared to a G73JH-A1? I remember the review here mentioned how it was one of the finest screens they've ever reviewed and was one of the things that pushed me into buying one.

But now I'm getting interested in getting either an SLI or Crossfire notebook.

Are the Alienware M17x screens the same as this fabled Dell RGB screen I keep hearing about?

Because the panel on my M11x, my first ever Dell/Alienware, is disappointing PQ for the price to say the least even though it's a relatively good screen compared to other netbooks.

If the M17x has the same great screen as the aforementioned Dell, then I might look into that. Those this Sager and some of the others do look very interesting as well.

It feels like there's a big hardware refresh coming rather than just a hardware regeneration, so I might wait and see what's unveiled around the end of the year or early 2011.

But this one does look very interesting. If, the screen is as good quality as my G73, which is probably my favorite thing about the notebook.

It is Pimp

 

The 8850/8760 and the G73 share the same Hannstar panel which is actually a pretty nice screen ... Like Chaz said its no RGB like in the M17x but having owned all of them on more then one occasion i cant say i was ever disappointed looking at the Clevo screen or the G73 ...

Id say the only downside to the Hannstar screen is its not the brightest but overall compared to many other screens i have seen in my days it stacks up decently ..

 

Thanks for the info!

So does this mean that if I want the best notebook display panel available on the market for a notebook gaming rig then my only option is Alienware?

Does anyone make as comparable or better display panel?

I'm really turned off on Dell's insistent control on Software and Driver updates on my M11x that can only be bypassed with modified INF files that really makes me hesitant to go Dell/Alienware again.

They're just too controlling as a company for my tastes..

 

Yes currently you only have one choice if you want the best display and that is Dell/Alienware...

I love my M17x but i also enjoyed the 8760 and the G73 but they are almost so different its hard to compare them....

Also the M17x is a boat anchor at almost 12 pounds so just keep that in mind as well... Size/Weight is not an issue for some but i always warn people ahead of time ..

IMHO they are all good choices and all of them have there pros/cons so pick your poison as they say...

 

Would you describe it as "dim", though? That's the one thing that worries me, with these Hannstar equipped machines; I like bright screens, even if it's too bright.

 

Well not super dim but not bright either ... Hows a happy medium sound ? ..

Here is a good review on the screen to get an idea of how bright it is since its the same as the G73 one ...

That portion of the review i linked to really breaks down all the good qualitys of the screen for you..

ASUS G73Jh: Today's Top Gaming Laptop - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

 

Thanks for that.

I wish LG would jump into the 17" 1080p LED game.

But by the time I buy my next notebook, in ~Q1 of 2011, maybe there will have been an affordable breakthrough in LCD tech. I'd love to see RGB become more widely available.

 

Yes i wish RGB were a standard across all laptops but that is a pipe dream ..

I dont think i have even seen a 16:9 RGB screen come to think of it ?

 

Dell Studio XPS 16 had a 16:9 RGB.

 

I have since my last post on the screen issue with this laptop had hands on experience with the screen. I was less than impressed I am a 3D modeler and work on a game development team, I use an IPS panel on my desktop the lack of sager / clevo even offering a halfway decent screen or even a screen as an option on a laptop that is supposed to be leading edge. My advice would be to look elsewhere until you get a decent screen option on a purchase this large. I look at my laptop screen the entire time I use it, its the number once important feature. The g73h is also very weak IMO

 

Actually, I'd argue that the best display in a notebook right now is a HP 8740w IPS Dreamcolor 2 workstation, but that's a business class workstation, not a consumer gaming rig.

 

Ahh yes, but what I want to know is, how well will it work as a gaming rig?

 

Decently well. There might be a touch too much screen refresh lag for a really hard-core shooter, but acceptable for just about anything else ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/notebook-news-reviews/503121-hp-8740w-review-full-metal-jacket.html).