Sager NP5791 Review

I'm stunned. I can barely run it on medium and 1024x768. Then again, I have the T7500 processor, and 2 gb of ram, but the 7950GTX(on Vista x64 premium). By barely I mean like 20-30 fps in explosion scenes and stuff.
Obviously , the bottlenecks for this game are the processor and the RAM.

 

Humm I don´t think that the bottlenecks are the CPU and RAM... of course that a higher frequency cpu helps but 200Mhz will not make such diference... and more 2GBs will not make it either...

What I think, is that the superior shader power of the 8700M GT(4 times more than an 7950GTX) is the main reason of that nice performance. Crysis is a demanding shader game, and the 8700M GT will take the lead on that situations. Besides the 128bits cripple bus can andle 1280x800 ressolution pretty well...

And that was on Vista x86... yesterday I´ve instaled Vista x64 and I can say that I´ve seen a +5FPS boost over the x86 system.

 

Well, dunno what was wrong before, but I've played the demo again today, on 1280,medium and ingame fps were averaging 29 with a max of 52 and minimum of 21 (2 or 3 tmes) Amazing. Damn spyware must've slowed my system down badly to make it lag the first time.7950GTX is still the king
Can't wait for the 8800M to show up and then I`ll play it on high

 

Possibly not. I've heard that there are problems running it on high on desktop systems.

 

Well, I can tell you that an 8800GTX can run it on high and 1024 flawlessly. I usually game between 1024 and 1600, and newer games look good enough on 1024 anyway, so anything that goes 40+ fps is all that i need.

 

Yeah, I agree.

 

Where can i buy this laptop in the white trim, i have yet to see the option but im bettin im just missin it heh

 

I believe that option isn't yet available. Sorry.

 

i was told its no longer coming to the usa..

 

NO! heh i was lovein the white look

 

I don't think you can get it in Europe either.

 

In the UK, check out www.rockdirect.com
http://rockdirect.com/viewNotebook.php?pName=XTREME 770

They sell both Orange and White versions.

 

Yes, but the price is higher because of that HD-DVD drive that I don't need nor want.

 

^^^ what he said ^^^

 

Ok, I'm gonna upgrade to 4 gigs of memory. Which memtest should I use for the memory ? 'cause I`m running Vista 64 and it seems to still have compatibility issues with a few apps.

 

hope it works for you i installed vista 64 and it still only showed me 3gb of ram. not 4.. please let me know if it works for you

 

Tha is weird,as far as I know 64 bit system show 4 gigs of memory,Vista I mean... maybe one of the modules is not 2 gigs? check them individually first..I`ll do the upgrade in about 1 week or so when my ram modules get here
Btw, I noticed that you have Patriot memory...as far as I know, that has had some issues with sager laptops in the past...

 

Thats very weird...

Maybe is because you have only 3GBs of RAM, on an 1GB+2GB configuration... if it was a incompability problem, you should have instability problems, like lockups and crashes on your SO not miss readings of it´s size.

On mine M570RU I have 2GB+2GB Transcend, and on Vista x64 and XP x64 edition they show 4095MBs of RAM.

 

nope 2gb + 2gb of patriot ram.. 1000000% 4gb total.

 

It´s weird... you have 4GBs of ram but on an x64 system only shows 3GBs...

How much ram it´s shows on the BIOS?

 

4gb in the bios... so yeah not sure...

 

Maybe the ram are not fully compatible with your system.
I remember in the old days that I had desktop with 128 SDRAM and added another 128, and in BIOS it showed 256 but in windows only 128 .
Did you use memtest to ensure compatibility ?

 

Maybe eleron911 is right... there is some compability problems that are causing that.

Mine have Transcend (Micron D9HNL chips), no problems so far. I´ve already make some tweaks on the timings flashing the SPD JEDEC chip, from 5-5-5-15 to 4-4-4-12 on 667Mhz, and no probs.

 

ZFACTOR-thats really odd cause I'm running 4GB of Patriot PC RAM in my 5791without issues. The only complication was that the card reader crashed the system after I installed the RAM (see thread posted yesterday), but a driver update fixed that.

Audigy-what kind of tweaks are you doing to you ram chips, and how? Are they worth it?

 

my patriot uses the same micron chips..

 

is it because of the Robson memory?

I would try to take out one 2GB stick and boot it, check windows to see if its correct.

then do the same for the other stick (leaving one slot open).

 

hmm good point i wonder if it could be.. when i get home ill try that and see.

 

If it is the Robson memory, I have a couple of questions:
1) does it really do anything?at all ?
2)does anybody have a system with 4 Gb and robson?and which type of memory,if so...

 

I've used notebooks with Turbo Memory installed and noticed no difference in performance. I think it's a good idea but the technology needs to be developed a bit more. Robson 2.0 that is coming with the Montevina platform should be significantly better according to what I have read.

 

Well,too bad, since I'm using Santa Rosa on the 5791 and won't chnage it for what Microsoft claims to be a few second of loading time spared. I don't buy it.
If you really want to save battery life,get a SSD .

 

i doubted it but i can say i do notice a pretty good difference when opening very large files or doing photshop or vectorizing a file etc. in those case imo it does make a difference otherwise no i dont think it does

 

Ok, since the 8800M GTX is just around the corner, I hope Sager will soon release a version of the M570RU with it (cause I'll be uprading ASAP )

 

I am now, more than certain that it is not a coincidence that Alienware is launching their new gaming notebooks at the same time of Nvidia's projected 8800M release... on [near] Nov. 19th.

I expect to hear Sager's official word within a week when they get the official thumbs up from Clevo and Nvidia.

 

Considering the base price of the Alienware 15.4, it's extremely reasonable, despite the fact that the 8800 goes for $500 more.

One can only drool over how little it will go for if Clevo creates a 15.4 with an 8800. o_o

Or...I could be dreaming.

 

yep with the new alienware ones coming im kicking myself for buying the 5791 now, man to have a 15" with the 8800... that would have been the perfect solution for me.

 

Do keep in mind that if the 15.4 tiny AW can have it, there is no reason that the 5791 could not have it... I mean, hello, it's MXM IV, and it handles a pretty hot GPU like the 7950 easily. Just be pacient,trust me, Sager will do something about this

 

Hey guys, just browsing around I found out that the Sager 5791 is dual hdd capable. Huh ? Since when ?

 

^^^ i dont think so where is this said??

 

Even on Xotic PC description page...just check! :
http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gamin...ops-with-nvidia-video-cards-ct-95_51_178.html

On the bottom page for the 5791 it says : Special Features

Built-in Camera, Memory Card Reader, Optional TV Tuner, Internal 802.11N WIFI, Dual Hard Drive Capable. Easily upgradeable and customizable your way.

Already talked to Justin about it, he says that it does not support dual hdds, so I`m not sure what`s that all about!

 

Hey Chaz, i also have a M570ru with a T7500. Problem is, my WPrime result is 44s...what´s up???!!

 

if you read here, wPrime scores can be optimized:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=123570

Differences between OS's and resources hogs can be very significant.

 

I´ve read it....

 

You just have to disable your resource hogs:
- System Restore
- Drive Indexing
- Antivirus/Firewall/Malware removers
- Aero (on Vista)
.... and switch Appearance/Theme to Classic Mode

 

Let me explain....in Vista my result is 37s, in Xp 44s...The first thing i did after receiving my Clevo and installing XP x86 and Vista x64, was following the optimization guides and tutorials for both the OS´s so...system restore is disabled, so is drive indexing and all the other unnecessary stuff...in XP even if i disable the anti-virus and the firewall i get the same result...i´ve even tried turning off RMClock and setting the appropriate windows power management profile(in this case the result was even worse: 46s if i recall). I know that the score on Xp should be worse than on Vista but the difference shouldn´t be that big....

Do you have any sugestions?

Thanks

 

you can try to install the XP hotfix for multi-core utilization.

But I would not worry about it too much. You scores still look good.

 

That hotfix was one of the first things i installed when i got Xp running...

Thanks anyway!!