Nvidia Reports Large Quantities of Defective Notebook Chips

So I expect to see the m1330 with an 8600gt option when they sort this temp problem out ^^

 

asus note books which use the 9500m seem to all run at less than 80 degrees when gaming. but who knows if the temperature difference is due to the design of asus notebooks or the gpu.

 

I thought temps did not matter. There have been many cases with peoples cards just dying regardless of temps. Hence why the panic is occuring? Every notebook affected may be a ticking time bomb to fail

 

temperatures must be one of the factors else why would nvidia suggest new drivers/bios which would force the fans to start in earlier and comment about notebook designs.

 

Remember that they have all but been caught lying by downplaying the situation thus far.

 

i can only make a guess based on what i've seen and heard and that is major heat issues with the 8600gt

 

I think the confusion about whether temperatures matter comes down to design, especially the ever critical factors of space and air flow. If you put the 8600gt into a roomy 17" model and the chip isn't surrounded by other hot spots (or if you just dissipate the heat from the GPU with a different pipe from the one for the CPU), you're probably not going to see too many problems, despite the chip itself getting hot. If you put that same chip in a tight space, the chip not only gets hot but heats everything around it with the heat bouncing back to the chip, making the temperatures elevate across the whole machine in a matter of minutes instead of hours. In tight spaces, just like an elevator full of people, you're bound to sweat if you don't tell the other hotties to move over or take another lift. Since they are talking about it being the actual structure of the chip, my guess is that they are getting warped more easily when their setup has the GPU heat being dissipated via the same route as the CPU.

 

Anybody know if Quadro FX 570Ms (G84M) might be affected? Those of us with Thinkpads have this chip. Mine is currently running at 53 degrees C, but that is at idle.

 

53 at idle is good. there are those who are getting 80+ at idle

 

Guys, I have a HP dv2700t with 8400M GS 128.

I have to keep my laptop on "power saver" to get it to idle anywhere under 70 degrees (GPU)

I've hit 220 degrees F, regularly while gaming, and especially when i'm using the HDMI out.

Is this usual? And what do I need to do to get it fixed?

 

That's the usual high temp (96-100) for 8400-8600 My keyboard is burning while I'm in a game. I'm still an NVIDIA fan, but I think this is too much

 

My DV9200 was hit by this, just out of warranty. HP wanted to charge me $400 to fix it, but now after several letters they have agreed to replace the motherboard at no charge.

 

i just found this; im not sure if anyone have post this yet.

http://news.digitaltrends.com/news-article/17183/nvidia-cops-to-defect-in-notebook-gpus

Nvidia has not revealed which specific graphics controllers are affected. The company says currently-shipping graphics controllers for notebook systems aren't impacted, but Nvidia continues to investigate its product lines and didn't rule out the possibility additional defects will be uncovered.

 

that's some good news and something for nvidia to start with

 

We universally in the computer world use Celsius for measuring computer temperatures.

 

So does this mean my dell 1720 that is still in production (ordered 7/9 with 8600M GT) doesn't have the gpu problem?

 

How much can we trust NVidia on this? That new units are not affected.

I really want a dv2700t T9300 for 4 hours of battery life, but (not getting 8400 GS) getting integrated for $900 is kinda sad.

On the other hand, I could go with the much slower T5750 ASUS with 2 hour battery life, but better GPU HD 3650.

 

OK, well I've been patient.....just where are these new drivers NVIDIA claims are in the works. Checked Dell website and nothing either.

 

My guess is that if it is an excessive heat issue and your particular model of laptop has good heat dissipation design, then new drivers aren't needed. Or they could be QAing the drivers.

 

QA? sounds hard to believe lol
not sure how all the insanely high temps for certain notebooks didn't raise flags in the first place.

 

QA means quality assurance. They have tot est the drivers before they push them out.

 

i know what QA means... just find it hard to believe they actually test things...these temperature issues should have been caught long ago if "quality assurance" was actually done correctly.

 

I feel increasingly cheated by Asus for the G1S. First they use a case that was designed for the A3000 which didn't have as hot a video card as this just to avoid making another case, then they stick a faulty chip in. Result = 105 Celsius under load.

 

i was just about to buy myself an Acer Aspire 5920G-602G25Mi - Core 2 Duo T7500 / 2.2 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - GF 8600M GS - Vista Home Premium for 600 euros (brand new from a shop) which i thought is an excellent price for this kind of hardware. Before i invest my 600 euros i did a mini research on the net trying to found any known faults or problems of this specific unit. Then i bumbed on the NVIDIA scandal. I can only describe it as a scandal because the little info the company has outed can be only scandalous. When you know that you have a gpu that is bound to fail it is like a terminal disease.You can try but at the end death is inevitable. Now if this "death" is going to be inside or outside the warranty period that is irreleavant. Things like that should be treated faulty or not with the same measure RECALL!!! Of course the only reason they are not doing that is that it doesnt have to do with the security of people (like a fuel hose in a car) but it can harm only financially. And that makes me furious.. Should there be explosion of the gpus due to thermal increase to see some action. Btw no i am waiting to see what nvidia will have to say...i expect a cover up and i am in search of a notebook using ATI gpu.

 

I've got a sneaking suspicion that this problem might go as far as the Geforce 2 GO era (2000). it seems that even the geforce4go has a documented overheating problem.

somehow, i suspect this is not just nvidia problem, ATI might have the same issue also, all i know is, modern things are getting more and more complex and fragile/troublesome.

 

NEWS! at last! words from nvidia.

before getting your hope up. nvidia hasnt exactly mentioned which of the affected laptop is. but at least a word from them, hope more to come soon...

oh boy... this is sad isnt it.. we desperately waiting to hear word from nvidia like this

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080716-nvidia-denies-rumors-of-mass-gpu-failures.html

 

Nothing new in the last week?

 

Sorry if this has been asked before, though I really did try searching to no avail.

Is the nVidia Quadro NVS 140m, which is basically based on 8400 GS, common in midrange+ business notebooks affected by this defect/problem? any notebook owners with such gfx card has problems with it?

 

I have a month old dv9700t CTO with a 512mb 8600M GS. My screen is flickering. This is the exact same thing that happened to my Dell 1520 (8600M GT) before it died. I just wish hp could refund me (even with a restocking fee). ..sigh..

 

9700M GTS is affected too?! I nearly bought Toshiba Qosmio-F55 but when I heard this ... Bad days for NVIDIA, 4870X2, Intel doesn't license some stuff to them, this, lowering the price of GTX280/260 days after launch etc.

 

I have hp dv6500t, got it almost a year ago
It has 8400Gs, idle temp is in range of 56 'C (temperature may come down if i open and clean heat sink and fans)
and CPU idles at 44 - 46 'C
I am worried and wanted to find if my machine is from the defective batch but couldn't find, can any one please help me check it out
I update bios and drivers regularly
Thanks