Notebook vendors want Intel Capella platform delayed

Notebook vendors want Intel Capella platform delayed
A DigiTimes report alleges that some notebook vendors want Intel to delay its next-gen Capella notebook platform from mid-summer '09 to October '09. Their reasoning? The notebook vendors have not had enough time to sell off their Centrino 2 (Montevina platform) inventories. Intel launched the Centrino 2 platform in July '08. The Centrino 2 platform is not penetrating the market as well as expected.

Full Story (DigiTimes.com)

 

Interesting. Economic downturn is definitely having an impact on computer sales, possibly causing Centrino 2 laptops not to meet predicted demand. Hopefully, this means lowered prices for current-generation laptops as summer approaches...

 

Agreed!
Where's my 500 dollar 7811

 

So I take this to mean that the soon to be released Centrino 2 processors (P8700, T9550, P9600, etc,...) will not receive a warm reception from these same vendors.

 

More or less. It's just a sad reality of the bleak outlook of the global economy (particularly the US economy).

PC manufacturers (both desktop and notebook) are having a hard time moving their current inventory of processors ... particularly high-priced processors. The manufacturers don't want Intel to announce something new because every manufacturer knows that if Intel announces something new most well-informed consumers will wait until they can get their hands on the newest processor ... which means even fewer sales of the current processor inventory.

This situation likely won't change until consumers start spending their money again ... and that won't happen until the economy improves.

Of course, this leaves Intel in an interesting position. They have to continue to innovate with new processors or they will see AMD gaining on them (the same problem that happened back in the Pentium days). On the other hand, if Intel pushes new platform releases without full support of the vendors then Intel will probably see fewer orders for new processors (because the vendors can't afford to buy a huge inventory of processors they can't sell to consumers).

 

I will repeat what I said in the other thread because I think it bears repeating:

AMD needs to get its posterior in gear and provide a viable alternative at the high end. Capitalism only works when there is competition, otherwise you get stuff like this. That article should be read as "Notebook vendors ask Intel to delay the launch of Capella so that they can have 3 months of selling obsolete technology at inflated prices."

 

penryn processor prices + the montevina and DDR3 are still quite too pricey for asian pockets..plus the global recession..
so,yeah...me and asians prefer to step backards and choose santa rosa and look for upcoming.....processor price cut

 

A bit of delay would also help the manufacturers ensure that everything works properly when the notebooks hit the shelves.

Montevina was delayed by Intel which gave the manufactures a hard time.

The real problem is the consumers who have stopped buying bloated operating systems and software and, without those, last year's technology still runs fine.

John

 

personally i think a delay would be great for those that have recently spent so much to upgrade. personally i think this every 6 month thing is a bit ridiculous but i know its the way they advance today..

 

And what about those like me who still use old processors like Pentium 4's, and have held off on upgrading due to wait for this platform?

 

If you have waited 4 years already, what's another few months?

John

 

Its nothing to me, since I have a dual core netbook to buy in the fall first, then I am waiting for Westmere anyway in 2010.

 

Who's producing that dual-core netbook?

Intel says their dual-cores are for nettops only and that's likely to continue with Pineview as they're going to be offering single and dual core versions.

 

Well I read that with Pineview netbooks will be getting dual core versions, especially since Via and AMD are now offering Intel competition.

Here is one source: http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11248&Itemid=1

 

It's unlikely that Intel will change it's stance on allowing the use of dual-cores Atoms in larger screen netbooks as it offers too much competition against it's own products when there's really no need to.

The Via and AMD offerings are both single cores and still unproven compared to the current Atom. There's no telling how they will compare to the Pineview which will be significantly changed with the replacement of the FSB and onchip GPU and memory manager.

Then you get into whether or not netbooks even need dual-core CPUs or is it just something people think they need? Before you rush out to buy that extra team of horses to pull your wagon make sure you've got a load worth hauling.

Truth is, for what a netbook is useful to people as, multiple cores are not required and more benefit would likely come from improvements such as faster bus speeds and of course better chipsets.

The manufacturers are pressuring Intel to allow the use of dual-core Atoms in netbooks since they get to offer machines with cheaper components for what will end up being sold for the same price as current notebooks with Core 2 Duo.

Take those netbook specs listed in your sig. Since there really isn't much of a price gap between notebooks and netbooks right now (silly over-priced 11" notebooks being the exception), the price you'll pay for that 13" netbook with a dual-core Atom isn't going to be much different than what you can get now as a 13" notbook.

Need proof? Compare the price of a Inspirion 13 vs. a Dell Mini-12.

The consumer believes they're saving money by just buying the performance they need in the form of a netbook but they're really not.

 

Well, all I want is a better performing single core than the N270 and a chipset made for netbooks. If Pineview brings that, then I will be happy.

 

If you want it with a 13" screen save yourself the wait and buy a notebook.

 

I don't want a 13" netbook, I am fine with a 9" one. What I am saying is that when Intels next generation Atom arrives in the fall, I would be happy with a dual core option for netbooks.

As for the 13" in my sig, you are misreading it. I want both a 13" laptop with Nehalem, and a new Pineview based netbook.

 

Sorry about the misread.

 

my point is i think they need to slow it down a bit and give people a bit longer chance to enjoy the systems they are spending so much money on. this new every 6 months thing is ridiculous imo.. i would be happier myself if it was more like once a year or so even.. to at least give people a chance to try to keep up

 

Intel introduces a new platform every year, actually, not six months. And they can't stop to give people a chance to catch up; it's business - they have to introduce new products and sell them or there will be an obvious alternative: they go out of business. There is no practical reason for people to 'try to keep up' anyway . . . for the majority of computer users, it doesn't matter. The masses are not techies like us here on the NotebookReview.com boards.

I upgrade my notebook once every few platforms. My HP dv5t is based on the latest Montevina platform, which was released in July '08; it replaced my previous notebook which was based on the old Centrino platfrom from '05 (Pentium M processor). I waited three platforms to upgrade and the new one is noticeably faster. There is very little benefit to upgrading every platform, and it's not practical.

There's nothing stopping you from enjoying your system if Intel introduces a new platform this summer as planned. So, enjoy it.

 

Very good post Chaz. We are not slaves to technology, and this is not like some softwares that forces you to upgrade or else you're missing out on all the features.

It's only your impulse that's forcing you to keep up with new tech. People are still driving their 5 - 10 years old car, even though god knows how many new car models come out every year.