by Kevin O'Brien
The T500 Thinkpad is the latest 15.4" refresh of the longstanding T-series out of Lenovo. Combining the latest generation of Intel goodies, ATI Hybrid graphics, and DisplayPort connection this notebook has many new things to offer over the previous ThinkPads. With all these changes taking place, is Lenovo keeping the ThinkPad as well built as we have come to expect, or has some quality slipped through the cracks? In this review we cover all aspects of the new ThinkPad T500 and tell you if we think it deserves a spot on your desk.
Our ThinkPad T500 specifications:
- Screen: 15.4" 1680 x 1050 WSXGA+ LCD (Matte finish)
- Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 (2.80GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 6MB Cache)
- Memory: 2GB DDR3 RAM
- Storage: 160GB HDD (7200rpm)
- Optical Drive: DVD+/-RW
- Wireless: 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.0
- Graphics: ATI Mobility Radeon 3650 w/ 256MB or Intel X4500 integrated (hybrid switching)
- Built-in web camera
- Battery: 9-cell (84Wh rated, 81Wh actual)
- Dimensions: 14.1" x 10/10.9" x 1.8"
- Weight: 6lbs 7.2oz (w/ 9 cell battery)
- Retail Price: $2,223
(view large image)Build and Design
The design of the T500 has changed a bit. The changes are subtle to the untrained eye, but they are there. The right side is now gently sloped similar to what can be found on the older T4x series, where the sides angle inward instead of dropping off flat. First clue about this is the optical drive bezel which sports a nice beveled edge. The rubber feet have also been slightly tweaked, now feeling softer than before, meaning less sliding on your desk surface. Moving past the minor case design changes, the ThinkPad is every bit as conservative (boring) as all of those preceding it. We have the same paint, same durable rubbery texture, and we still have our ThinkPad logo.
(view large image)Upgrade and expansion is a step harder than most notebooks, but still very simple. To gain access to all user-replaceable parts, you simply remove five screws and carefully remove the palmrest and keybard. Here you gain access to an open WWAN slot, another for Turbo Memory or UWB, two DDR3 memory slots, and your wireless card. At this stage you can also see the processor and heatsink, but a few additional items must be removed before you can lift those items out. Although this setup does seem like Lenovo is trying lock the user away from upgrading parts, they fully allow anyone to handle upgrading or adding components to their notebook without voiding the warranty. Processor swaps or messing with other advanced components might not be as kosher though. The hard drive is the only item accessible from the outside of the case (besides the battery) and is easily removed with a single screw.
(view large image)Build quality is very similar to the previous generation T61, with all of its strengths and weaknesses. Fit and finish are great with most parts, but you still have a good amount of battery wiggle in the back, as well as the cheaper feeling plastic LCD lid. The molded plastic panels throughout the notebook feel sturdy, overall feeling much like the previous generation of notebooks. Compared to the pre-Lenovo Thinkpads, the T500 feels leaps and bounds better. Now the T500 is not without its flaws, and the new keyboard definitely falls into the flaws category.
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The keyboard layout has stayed the same, with only very minor changes in the feel of the key presses. Some of this may be attributed to the differences in keyboard suppliers (NMB, ALPS, and Chicony) though, as my T60 came with the "clickier" Chicony keyboard, whereas the T500 is much quieter. The keyboard strength seems to have changed, with more flex present on the right side of the keyboard. To find the culprit of this flex, I took apart the notebook and inspected the keyboard area.
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(view large image)To my great surprise, I found Lenovo had completely redesigned the keyboard, with weight savings as the primary goal. The old design has a much stronger back-plate, which is removed on the new revision. This cuts weight by 25 percent (6oz to 4.5oz) from the old model, but at the huge disadvantage of tarnishing the long-standing ThinkPad keyboard reputation. For now I am leaning towards weight savings, instead of cost savings as the main redesign reason, but I still don't like it. Anyone who knows the ThinkPad name knows at least two things; boring business notebook and great keyboard. If you take away the keyboard and make other weight reducing or durability reducing changes to the notebook design, you will no doubt alienate many of your followers. I really hope Lenovo takes notice at this, cause I would take a brick glued to the bottom of the case before over a keyboard change such as this.
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T500 construction (view large image)As with older models, the liquid drains are still in place, ready to get your notebook out of harm's way if a stray coffee or soda spills all over it.
The touchpad has grown compared to the T61, expanding to the width of the lower touchpad buttons. With the ThinkPad touchpads always being the runts compared to other notebook designs, this change was very welcomed (even if they did paint scroll arrows on it). The texture is identical to the older touchpad, and sensitivity is just as good. Compared to my T60, the touchpad buttons feel much firmer, and have more support from edge to edge. On the T60's touchpad, the far left and right side tend to sag slightly, whereas the T500's touchpad buttons have equal support from side to side.
(view large image)My only disappointment with the touchpad was the lack of red strips. After seeing the X300 and X200 that offered "legacy" red strips on the touchpoint buttons, I was upset to see that Lenovo didn't include that finishing touch on the T-series keyboard.
What still works and what doesn't
Those who have older ThinkPad accessories from the T6x/R6x generation will be happy to know all of the older docking stations are still fully compatible with the new notebooks. I can't say for certain that the older equipment won't be replaced with newer revisions that offer different connections, but at least you won't need to upgrade.
The optical bay connections have changed from the previous generation, moving more towards a SATA style connector, rendering older drive incompatible. One change that might anger individuals in an IT position is the removal of the native Serial/Parallel hookup inside the ultrabay for use with the adapter. With many older devices needing native serial connections, these individuals might be wary of upgrading their current notebook.
The power connection appears to have stayed the same for use with the UltraBay battery remained the same.Display
The CCFL-backlit display on our T500 looked nearly identical to the display currently shipping with the older 15.4" T61 models. Brightness is much less than the LED-backlit panel found in the new T400, but still good when compared to other notebooks on the market. Don't expect to use this notebook outside on a sunny day, since the bright light will wash out anything on the screen. Backlit evenness is very consistent throughout the display, with no excessive bright or dark areas. Contrast appears to be very nice, and the colors are bright and vivid without looking washed out. Viewing angles rate better than average, but not excellent. Vertical viewing has a nice sweet spot before colors start to wash our or invert, and the horizontal range is better still. Compared to the LED backlit T400 display, the vertical viewing range extended further, but still not coming close to the IPS FlexView panel on my T60.
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(view large image)One defect or feature which was thankfully not present in our review model screen panel was a shimmering or dirty white texture. Some of the older matte ThinkPad screens had this problem that annoyed many users, and from what I can tell this screen had none of this in the slightest.
Performance and Benchmarks
Our Lenovo ThinkPad T500 came with the Intel T9600 processor, clocking in at 2.8GHz, and jammed packed with 6MB of cache. For graphics, Lenovo included an ATI Radeon 3650 video card with 256MB of GDDR3 memory. While not the latest SSD, Lenovo did include a 7200rpm hard drive which helped keep access times to a minimum and transfer data at a swift pace. This combination proved to be exceptionally fast in the Windows Vista environment, getting very high synthetic benchmark scores. The T500 also performed remarkably well in games which you generally don't find running on most business notebooks (well non-workstations that is).
Gaming was not a problem with the T500, handling games such as BioShock at native 1680x1050 resolution at 15-20FPS. If you scaled the resolution back to 1280x800, 20-30FPS. Slightly less intensive games like Portal or Half-Life 2 ran even better, consistently averaging framerates above 40 even in high action scenes.
One unique aspect of the T500 is its ability to be able to switch between dedicated and integrated graphics with a simple click of an icon on the task bar. You can switch between the Intel X4500 graphics and the ATI 3650 chipset without rebooting, and doing so lets you conserve quite a bit of power if you don't need to game.
wPrime is a program that forces the processor to do recursive mathematical calculations, the advantage of this program is that it is multi-threaded and can use both processor cores at once, thereby giving more accurate benchmarking measurements than Super Pi.
Notebook / CPU wPrime 32M time Lenovo T500 (Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 @ 2.80GHz) 27.471s Lenovo T61 (Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2.0GHz) 42.025s Dell Vostro 1500 (Intel Core 2 Duo T5470 @ 1.6GHz) 53.827s HP Pavilion dv6500z (AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60 @ 2.0GHz) 40.759s Systemax Assault Ruggedized (Core 2 Duo T7200 @2.0GHz) 41.982s Toshiba Tecra M9 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @2.2GHz) 37.299s HP Compaq 6910p (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz) 40.965s Sony VAIO TZ (Core 2 Duo U7600 @ 1.20GHz) 76.240s Zepto 6024W (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz) 42.385s Lenovo T61 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 37.705s Alienware M5750 (Core 2 Duo T7600 @ 2.33GHz) 38.327s Hewlett Packard DV6000z (Turion X2 TL-60 @ 2.0GHz) 38.720s
PCMark05 comparison results:
Notebook PCMark05 Score Lenovo T500 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, ATI Radeon 3650 256MB GDDR3) 7,050 PCMarks Lenovo T500 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, Intel X4500) 5,689 PCMarks Lenovo T61 Standard Screen (2.0GHz Intel T7300, NVIDIA NVS 140M 256MB) 4,839 PCMarks Dell Vostro 1500 (1.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5470, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS) 3,585 PCMarks Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS) 4,925 PCMarks Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 3,377 PCMarks Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS) 4,591 PCMarks Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 4,153 PCMarks Lenovo 3000 V200 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 3,987 PCMarks Lenovo T60 Widescreen (2.0GHz Intel T7200, ATI X1400 128MB) 4,189 PCMarks HP dv6000t (2.16GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 4,234 PCMarks Sony VAIO SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 3,637 PCMarks
3DMark06 comparison results:
Notebook 3DMark06 Score Lenovo T500 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, ATI Radeon 3650 256MB GDDR3) 4,371 3DMarks Lenovo T500 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, Intel X4500) 809 3DMarks Lenovo T61 Standard Screen (2.0GHz Intel T7300, NVIDIA NVS 140M 256MB) 1,441 3DMarks Dell Vostro 1500 (1.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5470, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS) 1,269 3DMarks Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,329 3DMarks Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 532 3DMarks Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,408 3DMarks Samsung Q70 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300 and nVidia 8400M G GPU) 1,069 3DMarks Asus F3sv-A1 (Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz, Nvidia 8600M GS 256MB) 2,344 3DMarks Alienware Area 51 m5550 (2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7600 256MB 2,183 3DMarks Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 1526 (1.66 Core Duo, nVidia 7600Go 256 MB) 2,144 3DMarks Samsung X60plus (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7200, ATI X1700 256MB) 1,831 3DMarks Asus A6J (1.83GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 128MB) 1,819 3DMarks HP dv6000t (2.16 GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 827 3DMarks Sony VAIO SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 794 3DMarks As an added bonus, we also tested the T500 with the new PCMark Vantage benchmark, and the T500 with ATI Radeon 3650 enabled returned a score of 4,176.
HDTune storage drive performance test:
(view large image)Heat and Noise
The cooling system worked very well, keeping overall system temperatures down, and doing so without making a ton of noise. At idle and under low activity the T500's fan stayed at a slow speed (nearly inaudible), keeping processor temperatures in the low 40C range, and GPU around 50C. While gaming, greater temperatures made the system fan speed up, but even at its highest speed it still seemed quieter than my T60. The outside temperatures are great in all situations besides gaming. Sitting around surfing the web or typing a document, the notebook is very cool and doesnt build up that much heat. Gaming is different, and the T500 gets much hotter all around the case, and gets some hot points on the bottom of the case.
Heat Under Stress/Gaming (listed in degrees Fahrenheit):
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(view large image)Battery Life
Unlike the T400 which saw a massive jump in battery life over the previous generation 14" notebook as a result of the LED-backlit screen, the T500's battery life was in line with the 15.4" T61. While the 9-cell battery in the T400 gave 7-8 hours of battery life, the same capacity in the T500 barely manages six hours. The key differences between each notebook are the screen size, backlit technology, and graphics card model, as all of the other options are identical.
In dedicated graphics mode, the screen brightness set to 60%, and wireless active the T500 managed 5 hours and 6 minutes before it shut itself down at 5% remaining. Even though it is still way under the T400 by a couple of hours, it is still very impressive for a 15" notebook. In integrated grahics mode with the same settings, the system squeezes out an hour and a half more, bringing the average consumption from about 13 watts down to 11 watts. The 9-cell battery gives you more than enough time to watch a movie or two on a flight, or even get some work done.
Speakers and Audio
The sound system on the T500 is fairly week compared to other mainstream notebooks, but that is fairly common for a business notebook. The speakers lack most all bass and midrange, but are find for watching the occasional movie or YouTube clip. Headphones are a much better option to enjoy music and video. The headphone jack on the T500 put out clean static free audio.
Ports and Features
The port selection on the T500 rates slightly above average, but still shows room for improvement. The DisplayPort is nice, but with current TV's and monitors finally starting to show HDMI, it would have been a better choice as the T500 cant output any resolution higher than the DVI spec. Three USB ports is cutting it close for a highend 15.4" notebook, and with them grouped together, if you have any large devices you will overlap. Moving past those complaints the rest of the port selection is fine. Some may argue that the headphone and microphone located on the front will cause problems, but there was no space what-so-ever left on the sides even if Lenovo wanted to mount them there.
Front: Firewire, Wireless On/Off, Headphone/Mic, SD-Card Reader
(view large image)Rear: Kensington Lock Slot, AC Input, Battery
(view large image)Left: VGA, DisplayPort, LAN, three USB, PC-Card Slot, ExpressCard/54
(view large image)Right: Optical Drive, Modem
(view large image)Conclusion
The Lenovo T500 as a whole is a great step up from the T61, with a faster processor lineup, much better graphics card, better cooling, larger touchpad, and even a digital video output from the notebook itself. System performance was phenomenal, coming close to workstation or gaming notebook levels. What is not so great is the famed ThinkPad keyboard going floppy on us where they used to be rock solid. No matter if this change was to cut weight or cut costs, Lenovo should have known better not to mess with the most important part of ANY ThinkPad notebook. Don't get me wrong, the keyboard is still much nicer than a budget notebook keyboard, it just isn't as good as what it used to be.
Overall the Lenovo ThinkPad T500 is a fine notebook worthy of a spot on many office or dormroom tables, but it could have come closer to perfection if Lenovo didn't mess with the keyboard.
Pros
- Very powerful
- Cool and quiet under normal conditions
- Great battery life for a 15.4" notebook (5.25 hrs with dedicated graphics, almost 7 hours with integrated)
- Impressive switchable graphics, would you like gaming or battery life?
Cons
- ThinkPad with keyboard flex
- Screen could be brighter
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
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Good review!
Looks like Lenovo is starting to cut corners with the build quality though.... I'm surprised that there's flex on the keyboard now! Granted, my Compaq nw8440 also has some minor flex around the optical drive area, but HP Compaqs don't have as much of a reputation as Thinkpads do. This is unacceptable for a Thinkpad.
Let's hope that issue gets rectified soon.
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Nice review!
Not sure if I can deal with a inferior keyboard. Thinkpads = reliability and great keyboards, but that may change?
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Keyboards and screens are the two things that every notebook user interacts with no matter what they're using a notebook for, and they both should be first on the list of things not to be changed based on a whim or the fad-of-the-moment. -
Jerry Jackson Administrator NBR Reviewer
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I believe I read on here that you can replace the T500 keyboard with a T61 keyboard to solve the flex issue.
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Hi, did you try using the old keyboard on the t500?
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
It fits just fine.
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is there any difference concerning heat when you put in an "old" keyboard?
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
The holes are completely sealed off with a clear plastic sheet for part of the spill drainage system. Heat wise the 2 keyboards felt the same.
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Great review! Thanks for this. Does the battery / power adapter from T60p work on T400/500? I know you mentioned that DVD drive does not.
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but my guy instinct is that you cannot. that would be too easy.
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
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so i guess the first thing many thinkpad buyers will do is to build in an old keybord.....
hm... they change the best thing...
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I just wanted to know whether it is really worth it to substitute the keyboards? I havent had a Thinkpad so i might not feel any difference? On the other hand i looked online and they are not very expensive (how easy is it to substitute them? ANd is their any chance that I brake my Laptop because i have no clue what I am doing?)
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Very nice review. I still can't get past the keyboard, having experienced it on the T40s and X/T60s.
I'm convincing myself it's not that bad of a change. Hopefully, as more people use it, we'll have a broader perspective on this. -
dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
Honestly after you get past the depressing flex, it works just fine. Key action is great and as long as you arent hammering on it you dont notice it that much.
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
Older T43 power adapter wont work on this.
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Great review, seems like the only issue is witht he keyboard flex. The heat seems to be 10-15F higher aswell which is not that great
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But yes whilst I am disappointed with this ''new'' design, I am not entirely surprised that Lenovo have finally decided to cut some cost. What you have just witness here is how the Chinese do business. Yes I am Chinese. I wouldn't be too surprised if they continued to cut corners on future models. Or maybe they would decide to ''reduce'' the running cost of their customer service.
None the less the T series is still a big step a head of consumer notebooks in terms of build and durability. Would be interesting to see how it will weight up against the 8530p and the E6500.
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
Oh and I finally found out how to work the switchable graphics this morning on both notebooks. The rough estimates of 8.5 hours on the T400 has changed to 11 HOURS! Crazy battery life on the T400 now.
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They WAY cut down on the magnesium. You say it's just as good as before? If it's overall as stiff as the T60, I'm definitely happy.
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
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Thanks for the write-upthough it would have been nice to have seen benchmarks that also included similar/newer model systems.
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Aside from the keyboard (big disappointment), the GPU is certainly big step up over the old Thinkpad. That 3Dmark score puts it on par with the W500,which is strange.
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Well my doubts have now been put to rest, glad I bought this on sale when I did. I have no idea how flexible (or unflexible) the old one was as I've never tried one, but if this new one is a problem (I doubt it will be, and I hook it up to a monitor and keyboard most of the time anyways, eliminating both the screen and keyboard issues) it's good to know I can buy and install the old one.
Thanks a lot for the review, I can't wait for this to arrive in the mail.
I also paid $1,000 less than the price listed, with everything the same but I got the P8600 and integrated graphics, the upgrades won't worth it to me for my uses. I also got 3 GB instead of 2. -
dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
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The 6-cell will be flush on the t500, correct?
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
Yes, 6 cell has always been flush on the 15" models.
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HEy Kevin, what's the resolution you used to run the benchmark ???
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
1280x800 as always
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Great review Kevin.....I completely agree that Lenovo should not have messed with what the Thinkpad has been known for (the keyboard).....hope that they would read your review sometime....and start making the rock solid keyboard as they have made before for T61.
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
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I'm curious, why do you get such a low score on the x4500 benches? You should be getting around 950-1000 in 3dmark.
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I wouldn't be too worried about the keyboard change. Lenovo poster, s2000hku, already said that the flex isn't noticeable under normal typing on his T400. I'm sure ThinkPad keyboards are still the best.
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I have one other question. What are the differences between the ati 3650 in the T500 vs. the 3640 in the T400? Both are 256MB cards.
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dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
The T400 has a 3470, and the difference is about 2000 points in 3DMark
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What about the powerbrick? I already asked Chaz about the dv5t, but since lenovo had to release a nice notebook, I'm now tempted by this. I need to know if it will work in other countries or not. -
dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend
The power brick is a 100-240 switching model, all of lenovo adapters are. I think they use the same brick in every country, just the AC cable side being different.
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Some users on the Lenovo forums say that the only way they've been able to switch is just to go to the BIOS set-up and disable the hybrid gfx and then select one or the other.
Isn't there a function key shortcut or an option in the ATI Catalyst settings or anything?
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ThinkPad with keyboard flex
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Lenovo T500 ThinkPad Review
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