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    Lenovo IdeaPad U330 Review

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by dietcokefiend, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. dietcokefiend

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    by Kevin O'Brien

    The IdeaPad U330 is the stylish 13.3” consumer oriented notebook from Lenovo. With a slick chassis and thin frameless LCD, the U-series notebook is a huge step away from the popular ThinkPad series. Offering power-saving switchable graphics, HDMI out, touch sensitive media controls, and the Intel Centrino 2 platform the Lenovo IdeaPad U330 packs a big punch.

    Lenovo IdeaPad U330 (2267-2BU) Specifications:

    • 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo P7350 (1066Mhz FSB, 3MB Cache)
    • Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium w/ SP1
    • Graphics: ATI Radeon 3450 with 256MB DDR3/Intel X4500 Integrated
    • Screen: 13.3-inch LED-backlit WXGA (1280 x 800, 300 nit) glossy display
    • Memory: 2GB DDR3 (4GB Max)
    • Storage: 250GB SATA HDD (5400rpm)
    • Optical Drive: DVD-Recordable
    • Wireless and Communications: Intel 5100AGN (802.11 a/b/g/n wi-fi), BlueTooth 2.0 EDR
    • Battery: 6-Cell 57Wh Battery
    • Dimensions: 12.5" x 9.3" x 0.9" – 1.1"
    • Weight: from 4.28lbs with 6-cell battery
    • Warranty: 1-year
    • Price: $1,249.00

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    Build and Design

    The design of the Lenovo U330 is very visually pleasing, with a low profile chassis, super thin LCD, and high gloss display cover. On the inside it has a pinstripe paint scheme with glossy touch-sensitive media controls. The frameless display looks really nice, with a smooth seamless finish side to side. These screens all tend to look great when the system is off, but they do introduce a ton of glare in a bright environment.

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    Build quality was average, with a good design, but having some components that could be improved. The thin screen while visually pleasing was very flexible, but did seem to protect against ripples in the screen when tapping the back of the cover. The paint scheme looked nice, but the finish could be improved. We saw many areas which looked like dusts had been trapped in the paint surface during the painting process, leaving defects and imperfections on the palmrest. The overall feel of the notebook is nice, but the little things really add up.

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    Display

    The “frameless” display, while highly reflective in nature, looked very nice on our review machine. Colors and contrast were exceptional, and black levels were very good with the LED backlit. Viewing angles were above average, with a broad sweet spot for easy viewing. Vertical viewing angles spanned from roughly 30 degrees down or 20 degrees up before colors started to become washed out or inverted. Horizontal viewing angles were much better, easily spanning to the steepest angles before colors started to wash out. In bright viewing conditions, at steeper angles you start to have nearby surfaces reflecting off the screen and dimming your view of what is on display. This is one limitation of the all-glass panels across the board though.

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    Keyboard and Touchpad

    The keyboard was very easy to type on, and had relatively good support under strong typing pressure. The style looks similar to what is found on the business grade ThinkPad notebooks, but with more of a consumer vibe. Individual key action is smooth with a soft click on each press. For long typing sessions the keyboard was wonderful and very easy on the fingertips.

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    The Synaptics based touchpad had great sensitivity and had little to no lag during use. The surface texture had a soft matte finish which was easy to slide your finger across, even if slightly sweaty. One problem we noticed which was slightly odd was a bubble underneath the surface, which may have just been a manufacturing defect. The touchpad buttons were large and had great feedback. Each button had a long throw, with a soft quiet click when pressed.

    Performance

    System performance with the ATI Radeon 3450 dedicated graphics and the Intel P7350 Core 2 Duo processor was excellent. The system handled mild gaming without a problem and normal acitivity was without any lag (once you removed most of the bloatware). One advantage of having a switchable graphics system is one minute you can be playing around in a game, and another you are sipping slowly off battery power using integrated graphics. Lenovo handles this transition without needing to reboot the system with a simple right click on the desktop and selecting "Configure Switchable Graphics." The switch takes only a few seconds and power usage drops significantly. Besides gaming, I found leaving it in the Intel graphics mode worked out best. The system consumes less power, puts off less heat, and still ran all of the 3D features of Vista without a problem. The PCMark Vantage synthetic benchmark returned a reasonably impressive score of 3,232.

    WPrime 32M comparison results:

    WPrime is a benchmark similar to Super Pi in that it forces the processor to do intense mathematical calculations, but the difference is this application is multi-threaded and represents dual core processors better. Lower numbers indicate better performance.

    Notebook / CPU wPrime 32M time
    Lenovo IdeaPad U330 (Core 2 Duo P7350 @ 2.0GHz) 38.222s
    Dell Inspiron 13 (Pentium Dual Core T2390 @ 1.86GHz) 44.664s
    Dell Studio 15 (Core 2 Duo T5750 @ 2.0GHz)
    41.246s
    HP Pavilion dv5z (Turion X2 Ultra ZM-80 @ 2.1GHz)
    39.745s
    Toshiba Satellite U405 (Core 2 Duo T8100 @ 2.1GHz) 37.500s
    Dell Vostro 1510 (Core 2 Duo T5670 @ 1.8GHz)
    51.875s
    Dell Inspiron 1525 (Core 2 Duo T7250 @ 2.0GHz)
    43.569s
    Dell XPS M1530 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz)
    37.485s
    HP Pavilion dv6500z (Turion 64 X2 TL-60 @ 2.0GHz)
    40.759s
    Sony VAIO NR (Core 2 Duo T5250 @ 1.5GHz) 58.233s
    Toshiba Tecra A9 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 38.343s
    Toshiba Tecra M9 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 37.299s
    HP Compaq 6910p (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz) 40.965s
    Lenovo T61 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 37.705s
    HP Pavilion dv6000z (Turion X2 TL-60 @ 2.0GHz) 38.720s

    PCMark05 measures overall notebook performance based on processor, hard drive, operating system, RAM, and graphics (higher scores are better):

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    Lenovo IdeaPad U330 (2.0GHz Intel P7350, ATI Radeon 3450 with 256MB DDR3) 4,801 PCMarks
    Lenovo IdeaPad U330 (2.0GHz Intel P7350, Intel X4500) 4,224 PCMarks
    Dell Inspiron 13 (1.86GHz Intel T2390, Intel X3100) 3,727 PCMarks
    Dell Studio 15 (2.0GHz Intel T5750, Intel X3100)
    3,998 PCMarks
    HP Pavilion dv5z (2.1GHz Turion X2 Ultra ZM-80, ATI Radeon HD 3200)
    3,994 PCMarks
    Toshiba Satellite U405 (2.1GHz Intel T8100, Intel X3100) 4,145 PCMarks
    Dell Vostro 1510 (1.8GHz Intel T5670, Intel X3100)
    3,568 PCMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1525 (2.0GHz Intel T7250, Intel X3100) 4,149 PCMarks
    Dell XPS M1530 (2.20GHz Intel T7500, Nvidia 8600M GT 256MB) 5,412 PCMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1520 (2.0GHz Intel T7300, NVIDIA 8600M GT) 4,616 PCMarks
    Sony VAIO NR (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100) 3,283 PCMarks
    Lenovo T60 Widescreen (2.0GHz Intel T7200, ATI X1400 128MB) 4,189 PCMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 4,234 PCMarks


    3DMark06 comparison results for graphics performance (higher scores are better):

    Notebook 3DMark06 Score
    Lenovo IdeaPad U330 (2.0GHz Intel P7350, ATI Radeon 3450 with 256MB DDR3) 2,056 3DMarks
    Lenovo IdeaPad U330 (2.0GHz Intel P7350, Intel X4500) 851 3DMarks
    Dell Inspiron 13 (1.86GHz Intel T2390, Intel X3100)
    470 3DMarks
    Dell Studio 15 (2.0GHz Intel T5750, Intel X3100)
    493 3DMarks
    HP Pavilion dv5z (2.1GHz Turion X2 Ultra ZM-80, ATI Radeon HD 3200) 1,599 3DMarks
    Toshiba Satellite U405 (2.1GHz Intel T8100, Intel X3100) 539 3DMarks
    Dell Vostro 1510 (1.8GHz Intel T5670, Intel X3100) 519 3DMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1525 (2.0GHz Intel T7250, Intel X3100)
    545 3DMarks
    HP Pavilion dv6500z (2.0GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60, NVIDIA 8400m GS) 1,551 3DMarks
    Sony VAIO NR (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100)
    504 3DMarks
    Dell XPS M1530 (2.20GHz Intel T7500, Nvidia 8600M GT 256MB) 4,332 3DMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1520 (2.0GHz Intel T7300, NVIDIA 8600M GT) 2,905 3DMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16 GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 827 3DMarks

    HDTune results:

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    Speakers

    Audio performance of the U330 was average compared to other notebooks of its size, with limited bass and midrange being the main weak points. Volume levels were adequate, but not as loud as larger notebooks. For watching movies or listening to music they would be fine, but for near perfect audio a good pair of headphones would be best. The headphone jack produced clean audio, with very high volume levels. The one complaint I have with the speaker and heaphone system on this notebook is the very loud beep the notebook makes when you switch power profiles between battery and AC power. It is loud and distracting through the speakers and “gives me a heart attack” while wearing headphones.

    Ports and Features

    The port selection was a little light on the Lenovo U330, with only two USB ports and no eSATA. I think Lenovo could have easily taken away the HDMI port to make space for something else. That being said the port selection was not that bad with VGA, HDMI, Firewire, LAN, two USB, and headphone/microphone jacks. The U330 also included a 6-in-1 multicard reader located on the front.

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    Front: 6-in-1 card reader and headphone/mic

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    Rear: Screen hinge

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    Left: VGA, LAN, and HDMI

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    Right: Firewire 400, ExpressCard/34, two USB, optical drive, AC-power, and Kensington lock slot

    Battery Life

    With the switchable graphics set to power-saving integrated mode, the power profile in Vista set to “balanced”, wireless active, and screen brightness set to 60 percent, the U330 managed to stay powered on for 3 hours and 58 minutes. If you enable the dedicated graphics, battery life dips to 2 hours and 40 minutes. I would love to see an extended battery for the U330, but with the screen hinge design it would need to extended below the bottom of the notebook to add additional cells.

    Heat and Noise

    Thermal performance of the Lenovo U330 was very nice, keeping its cool in both integrated and dedicated graphics modes. System fan noise is minimal under light use, staying at a constant low speed. Under higher levels of stress the fan kicks up in speed, but doesn't get that loud.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Conclusion

    The Lenovo IdeaPad U330 is a nice consumer notebook with a solid look and feel, but had a few areas that could be improved. The paint quality on the model we received had dust stuck in the paint and an odd small bubble underneath the touchpad surface. Chances are it is an early production quirk, but it is still worth mentioning in this review. The frameless screen panel looks great and adds to the overall look of the notebook, but in use it does add a high level of reflection. The switchable graphics that didn't require a reboot to switch modes is great, as most notebooks that incorporate it need to fully reboot.

    Pros:

    • LCD has good contrast and great colors
    • Solid performance in dedicated and integrated graphics mode
    • Switchable graphics doesn’t require a reboot
    • Good cooling system

    Cons:

    • Some paint defects (could be a limited problem with our particular review unit)
    • Frameless screen is very reflective
     
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  2. Phil

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    Thanks for the review Kevin. Could you say which display panel is used? (PC Wizard 2008 can say this.)
     
  3. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Thanks for the review.

    The view of the side of the computer makes the thickness range look bigger than is suggested by the 0.9" to 1.1" in the specs. Is this just an optical illusion?

    John
     
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    looks good :D
     
  5. Xirurg

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    em,from what I see it is has almost the same spec. as the base MB,and they are the same price,but apple is more superior in some aspects(like built quality),so it doesn't look overpriced compared to this...or I am wrong? :confused:
     
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    compared to apple's, this is ordinary and the mb a juwel ...
     
  7. Phil

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    This display is probably superior to the Macbook. Based on the initial impressions by Kevin, I'm expecting this to be on par with the Sony SR.

    The switchable graphics isn't really a benefit when compared to Sony SR or Macbook. Sony SR can get close to 4 hours with dedicated graphis, while the Macbook reaches similar performance with integrated graphics.

    Another benefit the U330 has over Macbook is HDMI.
     
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    sorry, but who needs hdmi on a laptop without bluray ?!

    as far as i knew hdmi is also a copy-protection ..
     
  9. Phil

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    Anyone who wants to connect his laptop to a larger LCD, HDTV or projector. The video part of HDMI is just digital signal like DVI, and there for superior in quality to VGA.

    I like to connect to my TV to watch downloaded movies and play DVD's.

    Minidisplay port (found on the Macbook) can do it too, but there is no minidisplay port to HDMI cable yet. Mdp to DVI is possible but that's without sound.
     
  10. Xirurg

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    ^agree,but mb,from what I read,is better built then it.also,i think that 9400gt is more powerful then 3450.

    Still,my point is that MB doesn't look overpriced compared to this.
     
  11. hurrikaane

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    One thing not explicitly mentioned in the pro's is the relative lightness and small form factor for an ordinary-priced notebook. Excellent value too from the LCD screen. A year ago this would be a $1500+ notebook.
     
  12. Phil

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    I would agree if Apple would deliver the Macbook with a good display. The contrast rate on the 9C89 screen is 1:150.

    Sony SR and Macbook Air comes with 1:500 displays.
     
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    u mean 9400m?
     
  14. sheltem

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    Where did you get these measurements from?
     
  15. Xirurg

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    well,different sources call it different way
     
  16. Phil

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    Notebookjournal.de and Notebookcheck.net

    These are actual measurements, not a manufacturer calling it.
     
  17. KingofNoobies

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    Build quality is normally better with MB, price owned it. Even wiht student discount its 1245, while the lenovo was selling for around $1000, which is a lot less considering some of the features.
     
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    What does “frameless” display mean? I would assume it means small bezel. But, it doesn't look so.
     
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    I would say though, that hdmi does not have to do with blu-ray only. hdmi is simply audio and video all in one nice sweet digital port with 1080p resolution. One may be working on something else that takes advantage of the audio and video.

    Some one may have a hdmi computer monitor with integrated speakers, that would be perfect with hdmi cable hook up.

    Plus if I wish to watch a blu-ray dvd, I would not want the sound from the tv only. I would want rich sound from my massive sound system, so I would most likely watch a bd film using my bd player with fancy sound system and tv. That's me though.

    But someone else that wishes to hook up to a hdmi monitor or a hdmi tv to do other work, why not do it with an hdmi? I hope hdmi replaces vga/dvi ports in the near future anyways.


    Also on another note: I cannot wait till laptops can have BD players and writers like in desktops, that would be sweet. I also am hoping that the industry will make BD blank CD's so that one may load up around 50 or a 100 high quality songs without having to fumble around cd after cd. I know the new thing now is downloading music, but one may still like to burn the downloaded music to the cd's for a hard copy in case something goes wrong.
     
  20. arch983

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    All that means it the bezel is behind the glass display so it gives the display a flush and cleaner look.
     
  21. Xirurg

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    lol,I was referring nvidia 9400 :)
     
  22. effy

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    Yep, glossy screen = deal break. Too bad they can't offer the option to choose. :/
     
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    you need to look into the business notebooks of manufacturers. This is a consumer notebook not a business notebook.
     
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    Yeah, ive noticed that distinction now days. Sad though.

    Mac's are not available as "business" notebooks for example. :/
     
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    Is there no way to disable the power switch beep? :eek:
     
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    Some of us would like a stylish notebook w/o a glossy screen. Business notebooks tend not to be what we are looking for.
     
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    Anyone compare to the Sony Z? I still think its the best. No glare screen and 1 HDMI.
     
  28. Xirurg

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    ^and it costs 500$ more
     
  29. Phil

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    U330 has HDMI too.

    Sony Z is 400 grams lighter, higher resolution, way better battery life and more expensive like Xirurg said.

    So it makes more sense to compare this to Sony SR. Same weight, same resolution, similar battery life. I would not be surprised if they use identical LCD panels.
     
  30. kenshin

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    man i want... lenovo aus not bringing it out???... been waiting for this since mid this year...

    guess i'll have to get it from HK on my next trip there
     
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    Please do back this up please show me 3DMark scores and other benchmarks that back this up. I know that you were referring to a 9400M and i would like to see some proof please.
    Thanks
     
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    Yeah 2050 v.s 2100 is hardly a difference.

    So Macbook, Sony SR, Sony Z, Lenovo U330, Samsung Q210/310 all have similar 3d performance.
     
  34. Xirurg

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    oh,I forgot to put a " :p " smiley here

     
  35. Rachel

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    Ok lol. I have seen some of these cards in the notebooks that PhilFlow mentioned (not the MacBook)benchmark at 22XX on a 3DMark 06 test and really in all seriousness i see all of those being much of the same. I think some people will still be more inclined to get a dedicated card as opposed to an integrated card still even if they benchmark pretty much the same.
    Also i think that i have read posts of forum members who have achieved a higher 3D Mark 06 score than the one that was given.
     
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    yeah,me too :)
     
  37. chen

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    You are exactly right, I was considering this laptop until MB came out.

    It's hard to compare these graphic cards, 3470HD, 3450HD, 9400M are basically par in terms of overall performance (3DMark06 is around 2000 or a little bit more for 3470HD).....but one thing 9400M is much better is at conserving energy as it is an integrated graphics card.
     
  38. PhoenixFx

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    What does that "Dolby Home Theater" sticker means ? does it have a Dolby decoder or something ? how is it outputted ? over HDMI ? Or is it just some software gimmick ?
     
  39. chen

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    the speakers are certified by Dolby Home Theater
     
  40. admlam

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    Yes. Just mute the volume.

    It's just the boot-up jiggle that can't be turned off yet. And it doesn't look like Lenovo is going to fix it as they've been ignoring it for the past 3 months, along with how coming out of hibernation hoses your power management and burns through your battery.

    I'm happy with mine since it's lighter than the new Macbook and was $600 cheaper at the time.

    But otherwise, I won't recommend this to anyone until Lenovo resolves these issues.
     
  41. chong67

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    Get the Vaio Z is better. The cheapest one is 1.4K.

    Got HDMI too and 1 lb lighter and georgeous screen.
     
  42. Xirurg

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    last time I checked,it was 1700 on Sony's website.
     
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    Might the U330 get the new P8400 cpu because the one it has is pretty old. And that would increase battery life.
     
  44. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    it is not old,it is the same age as p8400 and has same "25w".
     
  45. Phil

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    Prices on Sonystyle are always higher than in the retail channel. And Sonystyle usually lacks the cheapest B2B configs.

    Sony Z starts around $1324.
     
  46. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    really?can you give me a link?
     
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    I just bought a Lenovo U330. Seems like a solid machine and thanks for the review.

    A couple things about the graphics that weren't mentioned in the review regarding the graphics. It is soft switchable without a reboot, which is nice. However, you rely on Lenovo to update the drivers and Catalyst Control Panel since it is proprietary to Lenovo, and they haven't updated them since original release, I believe is dated August 2008!

    I think if you change graphics in BIOS from "switchable" to "discrete" you can use standard ATI drivers and CCC but you lose the switch function. Definitely a downfall of this notebook.

    Also, is 3DMark06 done with the laptop's screen resolution of 1280x800? Because if I hook it up to an external VGA monitor running at default 1280x1024 I get only about an 1800 3DMark06 score, but running at native resolution I get 2050.

    So far though, for the price I can't complain really, $840 with coupon. Bought 4GB RAM to replace existing 2GB. Comparable price to a Dell M1330 which of course has older technology.
     
  49. Luke1708

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    Congrats for your purchase. This gpu does not get as hot as the 8400m gs in the dell xps m1330.
     
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    Anyone know where I can get this laptop with the discrete graphics card? Lenovo only sells U330's with just integrated graphics.
     
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