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    Lenovo Chooses Nvidia Ion Platform for Larger Netbooks

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Lenovo Chooses Nvidia Ion Platform for Larger Netbooks
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    A DigiTimes report states Lenovo plans to introduce netbooks with 11.6- and 12.1-inch screens based on the Nvidia Ion platform. The company is also looking into launching a 13-inch netbook. The Nvidia Ion-based netbooks will use the Intel Atom processor.

    Full Story (DigiTimes.com)

     
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  2. ChristopherAKAO4

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    A 12 inch Ion based netbook would be pretty sweet! A 13 inch Ion based netbook with a dual core Atom would probably suffice for a main computer for most. (at least me for me as 90% of what I do is webbrowsing).
     
  3. lunateck

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    The question will be, will Intel allow it?
    It will be mopping it's own sector in 13" category if Ion was released. Everyone will be going for Ion instead of Core2Duo+Intel IGP.
     
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    Um...hmm. They'd better be in the same price range as current stuff. I mean IMO Atom based computers only make sense if they're $400 or less. Even at $400 you can easily pick up something Core 2 or Athlon x2 based (may be a Celeron or single core, or whatever, but it's still going to destroy an Atom).
     
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    Yea, but you won't get anything aat MSRP that'll wreck the Nvidia 9400M at that price. For casual gamers, the games run on graphic, not just on cpu power. Do agree that they should be price at $349 or below.
     
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    this is great news.......and those new lenovos look pretty sweet too :D
     
  7. Phinagle

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    I'll take an 11" ultra-thin with an Atom but I'd spend the extra couple of bucks on a full fledged dual-core 13" notebook over a 12" netbook.


    Edit: Thinking more on it Im hoping the 11.6" screen is actually a typo and it's a standard 11.1". Don't see much use in offering screen sizes that are a half inch different.
     
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    Sweet. Now if they could use a dual-core atom, I'll quickly get the 11".
     
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    Would go nice with the AMD Neo or dual core atom. Can't wait for those nice combo.
     
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    It's been mentioned that Nvidia might offer a chipset(not necessarily Ion) for AMD netbooks but I personally don't see a Neo+Ion combo ever making it into production.

    AMD plans to update the Neo's chipset to the M780E this year which offers integrated HD 3200 graphics. The M780E chipset would allow for a CrossfireX combo with a dedicated card which the Ion can't do.

    These Lenovos could eventually be upgraded to run Ions and Intel's CULV processor after they come out.
     
  11. Red_Dragon

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    Lol Neo + 9400 = Win are you listening NVIDIA?!

    id also like to see Neo + 4570....that would be intense.
     
  12. Han Bao Quan

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    Why still call it netbook when the screen size is 12'' or bigger??
     
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    the funny thing is it looks like they are also now hitting 11" which is also a new size for netbooks i would welcome those 11.6" though.
     
  14. Phinagle

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    Marketing thought calling it a "sub-notebook" would be bad for sales.
     
  15. Red_Dragon

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    maybe they could call it a subbook :D new category
     
  16. Phinagle

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    Terms like sub, econo, etc. tend to turn buyers off.
     
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    Neo + CrossfireX sounds kinda weird since it's going to be bottlenecked by the CPU anyway :D
     
  18. Phinagle

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    The Neo isn't an Atom level CPU. It has higher memory bus speeds, supports more RAM, and uses out of order execution so it will suffer less bottlenecking.

    The Neo is an ultra-thin notebook CPU.
     
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    Well, if it's 12'' or bigger, it IS a notebook.
     
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    the atom has its advantages in small machines. i wont bother buying a machine with atom in it over 10 inches. thats just a waste of money in my opinion. rather just buy something with a core 2 duo for the same money. dont get me wrong they will still sell, its just that the ones buying wont include me. im all set with that.
     
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    im with you on that apple. Greater then 10" = AMD Neo or greater....unless its ion
     
  22. Rahul

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    The netbook market is going to get very interesting this year. :)
     
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    Now we can have dual core atoms! yay! :)
     
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    First generation of netbooks didn't impress me enough to buy one.

    Lenovo Nvidia Ion Platform does intrest me.

    If the price is between $300-$400 I'll probaby get one. 11" display with a high quality keyboard will help seal the deal.
     
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    But if it's using an Atom processor it's not qualified to be called a notebook either. A distinction has to be made to avoid making consumers angry and generalizing these kinds of sub-notebooks as netbooks is the easiest way to accomplish that.

    I believe it's all a temporary issue right now though and the only reason Atoms are being used in these kinds of sub-notebooks is because the other options aren't there yet. The Neo's integrated graphics isn't as good as the Ion and Intel hasn't released their ultra-thin processor yet.


    This I agree is the real reason not to buy an Atom in a 12" or larger chassis. Once the price and size differences meet a netbook's low heat and long batter life doesn't compete with a notebook's improved performance.

    But like I said before an 11.1" ultra-thin would be my size limit.


    These Lenovo will be using single-core N280s.
     
  26. Phinagle

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    In related news Intel has filed suit against Nvidia claiming that Nvidia does not have licensing rights to produce chipsets supporting any of Intel CPU that use an integrated memory controller.

    So it looks like we won't be seeing the Ion platform supporting the Pineview Atom.

    Source Links Via Endgadet
     
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    So are lower-clocked P4 or celeron processors not considered notebooks either?

    Partially true, but I would argue differently. Some people are actually looking for longer battery life and low heat on their laptops without paying a very high premium, and they aren't interested in running programs like CAD or video encoding. So why sacrifice battery life/loud fan/heat for things you won't be running anyway?
     
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    ....wow that gonna just delay this thing even further AMD is laughing right now :D
     
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    AMD has no time to laugh. They're still too far behind and this does not slow Intel down for releasing it's own new products at all.

    This also does nothing to stop the Ion platform from using the N280. The Intel only processor currently produced that Nvidia can't make a chipset for is the Core i7.
     
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    Pay up the money to Intel and let this machine be already.
     
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    Nvidia will use VIA.
     
  32. Red_Dragon

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    far behind in what? In the mobile market they are doing lousy(for now) in the desktop market they are still doing fine.
     
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    Not that great. They've just been hanging on. They still don't have a product that can go clock for clock with Core 2, let alone i7, although finally Phenom 2 is at least in the same ballpark.