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    Intel launches new "Extreme" mobile processors

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Jerry Jackson, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. Jerry Jackson

    Jerry Jackson Administrator NBR Reviewer

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    <!-- Generated by XStandard version 1.7.1.0 on 2007-07-16T12:41:59 -->

    As if they were listening to hardcore gamer demands for even faster laptop computers, Intel Corporation today introduced the first of a new line of Intel Core 2 Extreme mobile dual-core processors.

    Using the same brand name as the companys flagship desktop processors, the new &quot;Core 2 Extreme&quot; mobile processors promise &quot;up to 28 percent more performance&quot; than the previous generation T2600 Core 2 Duo moble processor. Intel also announced that they will be offering battery-friendly quad-core processors for laptop computers next year.

    According to the press release, the Intel Core 2 Extreme X7800 mobile dual-core processor, with both cores running at 2.6 GHz, also features &quot;mobile-specific power-saving features&quot; that help deliver &quot;more energy-efficient and higher-performing designs.&quot;

    An interesting item of note for high-performance enthusiasts is that the Intel Core 2 Extreme mobile processor bus ratio locks (overspeed protection) have been removed. This added flexibility in overclocking means the X7800 should become a very popular processor for gamers.

    Benchmarks provided by Intel:

                                [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
                                Intel Core Duo mobile processor T2600 Intel Core 2 Duo mobile processor T7700 Intel Core 2 Extreme mobile processor X7800
    Performance results Dual-core Dual-core Dual-core
    3DMark06

    CPU
    (% improvement)


    1733
    (Baseline)


    2081
    (+20%)


    2225
    (+28%)
    PCMark05

    CPU
    (% improvement)


    4939
    (Baseline)


    5958
    (+21%)


    6434
    (+30%)
    SPEC CPU2006∇


    SPECint_base2006


    SPECfp_base2006


    POV-Ray v3.7
    Beta 19
    Pixels per Second


    11.7
    (Baseline)

    9.91
    (Baseline)



    790
    (Baseline)


    15.5
    (+32%)

    14.0
    (+41%)



    1025
    (+30%)


    16.4
    (+40%)


    14.7
    (+48%)




    1113
    (+41%)
     
     
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  2. jetstar

    jetstar Notebook Deity

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    The X7800 will dissipate a lot more heat than other mobile processors. It will be interesting to see how the OEMs will address this.
     
  3. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Nice promise in improvement, but when the benches come from Intel I'd have to say they are most likely to be 'best case senario' numbers. Any data from less, well, bias sources?

    Also, I never did understand why CPU overclocking was such a big deal for gamers. They ought to be more concerned about the GPU.

    Quad-core in a laptop? :p Looks like I may be waiting until QC can run at about the same thermal dissipation before picking up another laptop.
     
  4. kickace

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    anyone know when the x7900 will come out (2.8ghz)

    would like to buy that and OC it a bit
     
  5. 2.0

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    Intel biased? Say it ain't so. Anyway, yeah, here's a less biased realworld result:

    Here then: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...re-2-x7800-de-l--extreme-dans-votre-portable/
     
  6. paddlefoot

    paddlefoot Notebook Geek

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    Greg,

    Maybe if you ask nicely they will allow you to overclock the X3100 :D
     
  7. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    seems pretty wierd they would offer that it might start a fire unless you allways have a cooling mat on it
     
  8. stimp1000

    stimp1000 Notebook Consultant

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    There's barely a difference between the T7700 and the X7800. Actually, if you take into account the faster speed (2.4GHz vs. 2.6GHz), there doesn't seem to be any difference at all. It's almost as if Intel simply took a "T7800" and put an X instead of a T in front of it and is marketing it as an Extreme processor. But we all know that they'd never do that.
     
  9. SideSwipe

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    stimp of course they wouldnt do that, how dare u even mention this!! lol its just a C2D with more overclocking capabilities so of course it's probably just a hyped T7700, no mention of cache size either.

    however if anyone buys a laptop with this CPU and a decent GPU, plz provide your name, address and times when u will not be at home but ur laptop will ;)
     
  10. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    In September Intel will release the X7900 along with a few more mobile processors.
     
  11. Jerry Jackson

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    Click on the blue link for the Extreme processor in the benchmark section and you'll go to an Intel site with more info.
     
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    best part of this is that it is unlocked, would be cool to see how far some users take it.
     
  13. katorga

    katorga Notebook Guru

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    I'd rather spend my thermal budget on a faster/bigger GPU than on a slightly faster CPU.

    Is it just me, or do you wish Intel the model numbers and return to Processor Name + Clock speed? For the life of me I cannot remember with T7600 or X7800 means.
     
  14. Duy028

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    That monster is going to scorch your lap.
     
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    Em, you must have missed the last year because that is exactly what a Extreme Edition is. Faster clock speed, higher TDP, combined with unlocked multipliers. This was exactly what the X6800 had over the E6700 and the QX6700 had over the Q6600.. The core feature of Extreme Edition processors are unlocked multipliers which the X7800 has so it counts.

    In any case, I'd much rather wait for the regular T7800 non-Extreme in late Q3. A 44W TDP is just too high for me in a laptop.
     
  16. danny_8

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    Upon reading this announcement, several thoughts crossed my mind:

    1) I barely remember the T2600 or when it was introduced. Shoot, I remember it was a dual-core. I forgot most other details like bus speed, core clock, etc.

    2) Intel's claiming a 28% increase, but that's not over their previous fastest processor. I might be jaded, but that's really the headline I'm interested in.

    3) How exactly is all this processor power making the world a better place? Again, I keep forgetting the details.
     
  17. stimp1000

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    Em, yeah. I know that internet postings are lacking compared to face to face discussions... I should have included "re: sarcasm" somewhere in my message.

    I agree that I'd rather get a T-series processor [serious]. I just don't think that Extreme(tm) overclocking and notebooks make for a very good combination [also serious but with a hint of sarcasm]. ;)
     
  18. Mippoose

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    hehe.

    I'm still excited for my T7300!!

    And already you guys are talking about extreme edition X7900's!

    :p

    I just can't wait to see the performance difference between my current Athlon X2 3800 and the future T7300 C2D.


    :p
     
  19. Undsputed

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    As someone mentioned, the x7900 will be out in September so just hold on for that. The x7800 is 2.6ghz and the x7900 will be 2.8ghz, a nice performance increase, and I believe they will keep the price the same as the x7800 once the x7900 is ready to go. So why not wait 5 extra weeks? ;)

    Everyone keeps screaming about the heat, but there are special manufacturers who put desktop extreme chips inside their laptops like PC Microworks. If their laptop can handle the desktop extreme, then a Santa Rosa based Extreme edition should be able to handle the heat as well. Also they've made a lot of cooling improvements...processor speed isn't the only thing that improves over time!


    For anyone interested, I know Intel compares the extreme x7800 to some old processor and that isn't much of a comparison really, is it? Hah...here is a more relevant statistic. You will achieve about 8-9% performance increase over the prior best chip, the T7700. That's a pretty good upgrade I think, and it adds some future proof to your system so it doesn't need replacing in 2years.

    I'm looking forward to see the new laptop releases in the next two weeks which utilize the x7800 and then hold on for the x7900 CPU.
     
  20. gilo

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    Performenece gain ............................ up to 10% .
    Frame rate gain ......................................... 0% .

    Intel pricing margins over the T7700 .......... 100s% ?
     
  21. amuraivel

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    I understand why the chip exists, and why it came out, but the other questions is why people want 44W of TDP in their laptop.

    35W keeps my laptop toasty, if not too hot. Will the X7900 have the same TDP?
     
  22. Undsputed

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    Well keep in mind that different laptops are built for different purposes. The high-level gaming laptops have more advanced cooling. But say a basic 14 inch notebook with high upgrades might have very little cooling built into it.
     
  23. FGLRXandYou

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    Article requires correction

    The baseline numbers are over CORE processors NOT Core 2. It's a 28% over CORE. Please correct the article...

    In references to posts.

    This is not a quad core processor.

    Also as I understand it the primary concern of manufacturers is NOT heat. The Mac Book Pro illustrates that-- the MBP runs somewhat safely despite being so hot, yet most other OEMs are far under the MBP in terms of temperature. Do you really think this would make the laptop light on fire? The majority of design concern comes from power draw. They want to have a very small, low weight footprint Power Supply, that yes, produces very little heat (most PSUs produce a lot of waste).. It's hard to do that (And that's why a large portion of your PSU is in the external power block)... And so, they'll use the bare minimum power supply, which can cause instability issues. Especially on small computers.

    It's about the draw, not the heat, please stop parotting that since everyone says it.. just.. think about it. Consider the heat generated between current gen laptops versus older ones. Consider what the future of computing would lead to in terms of heat as well. If heat was a real problem at every stage of the game, then it means that there'd be no possible way to increase the power of the components after each of those stages.. if in 2000 the processors were too hot, then the 2001 processors would be too hot. the 2002 hotter than that, the 2003 hotter than that... .. It's about the draw.

    /rant