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    Intel Sandy Bridge Chipset Design Error Causes Recall Discussion

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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  2. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    How come this is just being posted here when there are threads already in almost every section of the forum?
     
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    Partizan Notebook Deity

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    bpssi Newbie

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    Jeez. I read somewhere that Intel was 'lucky' for the recall to cost only about $1 billion. To have that much cash...
     
  5. specialjustin

    specialjustin Notebook Guru

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    Do we expect to see a price increase because of this?
     
  6. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Considering the fact that this recall decreases demand due to consumer paranoia, that would be the last thing Intel would want to do.
     
  7. PlanB

    PlanB Notebook Enthusiast

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    I pre-ordered an Asus N53SV in my country which was expected to be available from mid-February....then came the mail that delivery is delayed for 4-6 weeks.... Im waiting for SB from November, cant wait for an other 2 month...thank you Intel
     
  8. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    AMD, this is your chance.
     
  9. PlanB

    PlanB Notebook Enthusiast

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    what can AMD offer now in notebooks? Nothing....exactly nothing. their current processors are as weak that they do not even worth the price, you have to wait for the Bulldozer platform as well if you want some solid performance - which is expected around only early Q2, late Q1....so, Im guessing cant do anything but wait until the issue is resolved if I dont want to buy some old-architectured stuff which will worth nothing once the proper Sb / Bulldozer is announced....it s a kinda deadlock
     
  10. ajreynol

    ajreynol Notebook Virtuoso

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    No, it's not. If AMD didn't already have something ready to enter the market, they won't have enough time to get something out there before Intel fixes the issue. In the end, this only delays the inevitable: continued Intel dominance in the desktop market.
     
  11. GRazor71

    GRazor71 Notebook Guru

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    ***ALERT***

    In case this wasn't posted elsewhere:

    As of today, Intel announced they will immediately begin shipping P67 and H67 chipsets again as long as laptop manufacturers do not use the effected SATA ports.

    QUOTE: "This should not only mean that Sandy Bridge laptops will be on the market sooner rather than later, but it should also help to speed up supply of updated chips to those who actually need them."

    http://blog.laptopmag.com/intel-and-...-to-ship-again
     
  12. GRazor71

    GRazor71 Notebook Guru

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    Everyone should understand that this will not have a direct effect on Clevo or similar units, but only an indirect effect due to resultant decreasing demand for the new chipsets moving forward.

    I understood that to be the case in the article, but I should have stated it more clearly while referencing it. Sorry about that!
     
  13. CleoBlue

    CleoBlue Newbie

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    The link doesn't work.
     
  14. knight427

    knight427 theenemysgateisdown

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    It is currently on their front page, thought that won't last forever.

    Try this.
     
  15. CleoBlue

    CleoBlue Newbie

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    Thanks. I have an 8150 on backorder with Xotic. I hope that model will be one of the ones they ship.
     
  16. chenxiaolong

    chenxiaolong Notebook Geek

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    I doubt it will ship before the chipset is fixed. Two of the six SATA ports are unaffected and the np8150 uses three of them: eSATA, the hard drive, and the optical drive.
     
  17. GRazor71

    GRazor71 Notebook Guru

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    First, all Clevo models use at least one SATA 3.0 controller port, which is affected by the flawed I/O companion chip on the new SB motherboards. The 8150 ODD port is the problem for that particular model. The 8150 HDD and eSATA external port use the SATA 6.0 ports 0 and 1 addresses meaning they would never be affected.

    The chipset was FIXED the day Intel admitted the flaw, they just needed to make some manufacturing changes to move forward. New shipments will be going out next week; however, companies like Clevo will need to make some adjustments as well, meaning they won't ship their newly configured products till a week or two later to companies like Sager who at that point can start filling SB orders again - late Feb to Mid-Mar.

    Due to Intel allowing the flawed chips to go to laptops that won't ever use the SATA 3.0 ports, this will hopefully speed up the new inventory for use in systems like the 8150.
     
  18. PlanB

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    are there any news on the SB-issue ? The latest I heard is that Intel started to deliver the upgraded version 14th of February, but no further communication was announced - neither on the release or how does it affect laptops
     
  19. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    Where did you get that the eSATA uses SATA 3?

    I have one, and in the BIOS it states that

    ODD : port 2
    eSATA : port 3

    Which means both use the SATA 2 ports which are affected.
     
  20. vincredible15

    vincredible15 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is this true? :(

     
  21. alexUW

    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    I want to know if that is true too! I don't believe anything, unless source is provided! Cmon ppl!
     
  22. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    If that's the case and Intel tried to act like nothing is wrong with the Ports 0 and 1, then I'll have to avoid Intel permanently out of fear that there will be a major issue Intel knows about but is hiding.
     
  23. alexUW

    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'd wait before jumping to conclusions. I tried searching for what Gentech said, using both "search" and "news" and nothing came up.
     
  24. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Search for the actual text he posted. It's actually from the GenTech rep on this very forum.
     
  25. alexUW

    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    I know. I went to that thread. The "GenTech" guy never posted a source, just stated it. I even posted in that thread and said I want to know source. Oh, I shoudl have stated more clearly, but I "googled" for it using both "search" and "news".

    Even if it was the case, it doesn't matter as most (if not all) Manufacturers are requiring customers to return products. Some customers are stubborn and think, "they said this so I can do that.." type of reasoning; they think they can bypass the recall. Not all details are released to the press, and this could be a prime example of that.

    O Well. The B3 chipset is supposed to be the magic fix to this dilemma.


    I STILL WANT TO SEE SOURCE!!
     
  26. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    My concern is that, if Intel lied about ports 0 and 1 not being affected, what else did the lie about? Did they really fix the issue? Are the chances of it happening actually low, or really 100%? Is there actually a chance of it damaging the drives? Were other parts of the chipset affected by other issues? Is Cougar Point really the only affected chipset?