Intel Clarksfield Notebook CPUs Coming

you mentioned video editing, a fast CPU should significantly speed up the encoding time

 

I'd say more like 90% or more of the people who buy it don't need it...

 

those who really need the power are a true minority...like me...i would gladly buy something cheaper, but i cant...i need an expensive professional gpu

 

Well ok I was being generous I agree. Those who really need the power('need' as in they'll use it on a regular basis) are a very little minority as Serg says.

At this point, I begin to wonder about putting more power in laptops vs making more efficient chips to get better cooling and more battery life.

 

Yes, but power sells, efficiency doesn't.

 

Umm, tell anyone that they can get 9 hours of battery life on a laptop with decent power settings and that laptop will sell, believe me.

As it is right now, getting past 5 already narrows down the general laptop market(excluding netbooks) to maybe 10%. Those which can achieve that either cost an arm, or are weaker in specs(CULV CPUs or 13" laptops).

 

...that's why the market pushed towards 3 simultaneous needs today: a 13'' like efficient laptop for pure mobility,presentations, emails etc. that can last 10+hours, a desktop replacement that can hold powerful applications on the go...and a desktop sitting at home for the whole coverage
incredible...it seems we need all of them!

 

Ideally, we'd want the most power we can with the most efficiency we can yes lol As it stands, you said it, we need 3 separate products to fill those needs, but if one day some manufacturer is able to get a product that can fit say 2 of those products in 1, then it'd sell remarkably well.

For example, one of the Macbook Pro's selling points is it's high battery life(was it 6 hours?) in comparison to the hardware it has in it.

Or how about this...why do you think currently that 40nm GPU chips sound so interesting to people? It's because they're said to run powerfully, but more importantly that they'll consume less power and therefore be more efficient chips.

At the end of the day, power is appreciated, but a large part of the point of a laptop/notebook is the portability/battery life aspect of it and just sticking in more power doesn't exactly help(unless they increase the efficiency of newer chips by exponential leaps compared to the technological advancements). As we've pointed out, we've already got enough power for 90% of the population. Sure, you can develop for the other 10% as well, but the 90% are satisfied and IMO, more efficiency would be a good move.

 

I have to agree with Forever_Melody. The base and concept of a laptop is mobility, that is why they exist, so getting a good efficiency is a focal point for manufacturers, since what appeals the most (IMO) is the ability to stay away from a plug the longest possible, while giving some strong performance.

Few people, like me, really need a powerful laptop and gamers find themselves here, where battery life must be traded by more power. But this is a very small minority, as the most are going to just browse the web, facebook, twitter, youtube, and school stuff, some vids, but that is it, and for that large majority, the CULV is quite sufficient, and gives a better battery life.

 

This is the exact reason there is no ONE hardware configuration. Thr market varies and manufacturers will stretch their products in both directions. Efficiency and battery life and also towards pure raw power.

You must also remember that battery capacity changes every year as well too. As the technologies improve the varience between the extreems expand as well. The great thing is the price of all these seem to just come down......

 

When are the Nehalem CPUs with no FSB coming out ?

 

As far as I know... beginning of 2011. Intel said they want to give the current platform enough time to sell. So if Arrandale comes in January ... one year from there on should be the next platform and possibly 22nm.

 

WTH, I thought Nehalem was supposed to come end of 2009/beg 2010 ??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Nehalem_(microarchitecture)

 

Sorry my mistake, I got a bit confused.

Well that one is already out and Arrandale will fallow up soon in January.
I've wrote extensively about it here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=390986

I thought you are talking about the next platform after Calpella, the Huron River platform on Sandy Bridge architecture (that one is due for 2011).

 

Clarksfield is out already and it doesn't use FSB but DMI.

 

I though FSB got replaced by the QPI (quick path interconnect).

FSB, alongside with the Northbrigde are gone. See more of this in the Intel Guide on my sig under Architecture chapter.

 

True, but with Clarksfield and Arrandale they use DMI not QPI.

Here's the link: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43126&processor=i7-920XM&spec-codes=SLBLW

 

Indeed you are right.