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    HP dv8000t Review (pics, specs)

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by jetstar, Jun 26, 2006.

  1. jetstar

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    Overview and Introduction

    I recently purchased an HP dv8000t CTO notebook. This is a desktop replacement notebook and is the 17-inchflagship model from HP.


    It has been over a month since I've had it, and I thought I would write a review and share my experiences with this notebook.

    The specifications are as follows:

    • Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Media Center Edition
    • Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2300 (1.66 GHz)
    • 17.0" WSXGA+ BrightView Widescreen (1680x1050)
    • 256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400
    • 2.0GB DDR2 SDRAM (2x1024MB) 667MHz
    • 80 GB Fujitsu 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive
    • LightScribe Double Layer 8x DVD+/-RW&CD-RW Combo
    • Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network with Bluetooth
    • HP ExpressCard Analog TV Tuner with remote control
    • 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    • Windows(R) XP Media Center Edition Backup CD
    • HP Mobile Remote Control

    Reasons for Buying

    A couple of months back, the hard drive in my previous notebook (a Dell Inspiron 8600 with a Celeron M processor) failed, thus rendering the machine useless. I replaced the hard drive with a new Seagate Momentus hard drive, but for some reason, the notebook was still unable to recognize the drive, and I was unable to reinstall MS Windows XP.

    I work with desktop computers almost continuously at work. Lately, I have been experiencing serious eye strain, despite working from dual 19" monitors. I had also been thinking of using my notebook as a TV so that I could multi-task while working on my notebook.

    Hence, I decided to get a new 17" widescreen notebook. Prior to purchase, I considered the new Toshiba Satellite P100 series, the Sony Vaio AX series, the Acer Travelmate 8204, and the Asus W2J, as well as the HP Pavilion dv8000t. The Acer, Asus and the Toshiba have top-of-the-line graphics cards. The Sony, Acer and Asus were all on the wrong side of $2000, hence I had to decide between the Toshiba and the HP. I chose the HP because it offered more features for the money.

    Where and How Purchased

    I purchased the notebook directly from HP Shopping. At the time of the order, the notebook cost me approximately $1,600. However, after placing the order, I chanced upon the HP nx9240 business notebook, with similar specs, but with 1GB RAM, an extremely capable ATI X1600 graphics card, a fingerprint scanner and a lower weight (7.4 lbs). Hence, acting on an impulse, I thought I would call up HP and ask if I could cancel my dv8000t order. I was told that it was indeed possible to cancel the order, since the notebook was yet to be built. I was also offered $125 off my price (as a credit), if I chose not to cancel the order. I decided to accept this. So when we take this $125 and a $50 mail in rebate, the total price comes to a little over $1400, which I think is a good deal, considering the specs of this machine.

    Build & Design

    After opening the box and taking out the notebook, I must say that I was quite impressed by its looks. The notebook is very well built. The hinges are firm and tight. The screen and lid are sturdy, with no distortions or ripples on screen after pressing hard on the top of the lid.

    It features a two-tone color scheme - silver on the outside and black on the inside. Located at the top of the keyboard, are discrete Media Function and Volume Control keys with soft blue lights embedded in them. There is also a very handy Calculator Launch button, for those times when I need to make a quick calculation.

    Since this is a desktop replacement notebook, it is not very portable at 8.1 pounds, but if need be, it can be moved around, with little difficulty. All the I/O Ports are located on the sides, with only the fan vents and the LAN cable port located on the back.

    There is shiny black plastic around the keyboard, which along with the soft blue lights of the Media Function keys, gives the notebook an extremely pleasant look, especially in a low light ambience.

    Overall, the notebook has a clean, classy, elegant yet understated look.

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    The HP dv8000t notebook (view large image)

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    The HP dv8000t by night (view large image)

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    Top View (view large image)

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    Front View (view large image)

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    Left Side (view large image)

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    Right Side (view large image)

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    Rear View (view large image)

    Screen

    The screen on this notebook is, in a word, phenomenal. Words cannot truly describe this amazing screen. When I first switched on the notebook, I was stunned by the quality and size of the screen. The 17-inch widescreen is huge, with even backlighting, and provides plenty of real estate for watching movies, gaming or multi-tasking.

    According to HP, the dv8000t features a high-definition screen. And judging from the quality of the images on screen, I am quite inclined to agree. Watching movies or live TV is an absolute pleasure, with the screen displaying rich, true-to-life images.

    There is no light leakage, which is a huge plus, as far as I am concerned. I was also delighted to find no dead pixels, after using the Dead Pixel Buddy software.

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    The gorgeous "high-definition" widescreen display (view large image)

    Speakers and Sound

    The notebook features Altec Lansing speakers that are among the best notebook speakers in the market. They deliver clean, crisp sound and can get really loud, with little distortion of sound. These speakers can provide adequate sound for watching a DVD from across the room -- there is no real need for external speakers or headphones.

    However, I have my notebook hooked up to a Creative Audigy 2SZ for Notebooks sound card, and an Altec Lansing GT 5051 5.1 surround sound speaker system. This combination, in tandem with the widescreen display, makes it possible for me to have a mini-theater right here on my computer desk. I must say that the sound is terrific.

    Processor and Performance

    I mainly use this notebook for office tasks, email/browsing/chatting, some Photoshop, listening to music, and for watching movies and live TV.

    Boot up time is minimal - 41 seconds from powering up till the Windows login screen, with a further 14 seconds after logging in. Applications launch instantaneously when clicked. This notebook features a Fujitsu 80GB 5400rpm hard drive, which, along with the 2GB of RAM, is fast enough for most applications. The new Intel Centrino Duo processor really shows its mettle here, since I can easily run 3 or more tasks simultaneously, with several windows open.

    The dv8000t comes with a dual hard drive storage system, which provides storage for up to 240GB. I opted for a single 80GB hard drive, since I store all my data on a Seagate external hard drive.

    I am an occasional gamer, meaning, I only play one game - Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004. This is not the most graphics intensive game out there. The game runs beautifully, and the NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400 easily handles the graphics requirements.

    However, I did install a few other games such as Need for Speed: Underground 2, and Hitman 2: Silent Assassin. The Go 7400 was able to blaze through these games, with no freeze at all, at the highest settings. Granted, these games are not the latest. But I am sure that Go 7400 can handle newer games such as Oblivion, albeit at medium settings.

    Recently, HP began offering the superior NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600. This must have been received with some disappointment by those who got their notebooks with the Go 7400. Yet, I feel that for my (gaming) needs, the Go 7400 is more than sufficient.

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    Need for Speed: Underground 2 (view large image)

    Benchmarks

    In order to measure and compare my notebook performance, I ran several benchmarking programs, including Super Pi, PCMark05, 3DMark 05 and 3DMark06, the results of which are given below:

    Super Pi

    Super Pi is a program that forces the notebook processor to calculate Pi to 2-million digits of accuracy.

    Notebook Time
    HP dv8000t (1.66GHz Core Duo) 1m 22s
    Dell Inspiron e1705 (2.0GHz Core Duo) 1m 12s
    Lenovo Z61m (2.0GHz Core Duo) 1m 16s
    IBM ThinkPad T43 (1.86 GHz Pentium M) 1m 45s
    IBM ThinkPad Z60m(2.0 GHz Pentium M) 1m 36s
    Fujitsu LifeBook N3510 (1.73 GHz Pentium M) 1m 48s
    Dell Inspiron 6000D (1.6 GHz Pentium M) 1m 52s
    Dell Inspiron 600M (1.6 GHz Pentium M) 2m 10s
    HP Pavilion dv4000(1.86 GHz Pentium M) 1m 39s
    Asus V6Va(Pentium M 1.86 GHz) 1m 46s
    Lenovo ThinkPad T60 (2.0GHz Core Duo) 1m 18s


    PCMark05

    Here's how thedv8000t stacked up in PCMark05 results against other notebooks. This result considers system performance as a whole (processor, graphics card, hard drive).

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    HP dv8000t(1.66 GHz Core Duo, nVidia Go 7400) 3,458PCMarks
    Fujitsu N6410(1.66GHz Core Duo) 3,487 PCMarks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60) 5,597PCMarks
    Sony Vaio SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 3,637 PCMarks
    Dell Inspiron e1405 (1.66 GHz Intel T2300) 2,879PCMarks
    Asus V6J (1.86GHz Core Duo T2400) 3,646 PCMarks
    Toshiba Satellite M70 (Pentium M1.86GHz) 1,877 PCMarks

    3DMark 05

    Below is the overall 3DMark05 score and comparison to other notebooks:

    Notebook 3DMark 05 Results
    HP dv8000t (1.66 GHz Core Duo,nVidia Go7400 with 2.0GB 667MHz memory) 2,196 3D Marks
    HP dv8000t (2.00 GHz Core Duo,nVidia Go7400 with 1.0GB 533MHz memory) 2,005 3D Marks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60 Nvidia GeForce Go7800 GTX) 7,0783DMarks
    Dell Inspiron e1705 (2.0GHz Intel T2500, ATI X1400) 1,791 3D Marks
    Asus V6Va (2.13 GHz Pentium M, ATI Radeon Mobility x700 128 MB) 2,530 3D Marks
    Fujitsu n6410(1.66 GHz Core Duo, ATI X1400 128MB) 2,2733DMarks
    Dell XPS M1210 (2.16 GHz Core Duo, nVidia Go 7400 256MB) 2,090 3D Marks
    Acer TravelMate 8204WLMi(2.0GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 256MB) 4,157 3DMarks

    3DMark 06


    Notebook 3DMark 06 Results
    HP dv8000t (1.66 GHz Core Duo,nVidia Go7400 with 2.0GB 667MHz memory) 772 3D Marks
    HP dv8000t (2.00 GHz Core Duo,nVidia Go7400 with 1.0GB 533MHz memory) 707 3D Marks
    Dell XPS M1710 (2.16 GHz Core Duo, nVidia 7900 GTX 512MB) 4,744 3D Marks
    Apple MacBook Pro (2.0GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 128MB 1,528 3D Marks
    Sony Vaio SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 794 3DMarks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60 Nvidia GeForce Go7800GTX) 4,085 3DMarks
    Asus A6J (1.83GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 128MB) 1,819 3D Marks

    HD Tune results to illustrate hard drive performanceare illustrated below:

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    HD Tune results (view large image)

    Heat and Noise

    Heat and noise are two important factors to consider while buying a notebook. I am quite pleased to find that this notebook barely gets warm, both at the bottom and the palm rests, even during extended sessions, which include movies and light gaming. The fan does run occasionally, but it runs quiet. The optical drive also runs quietly, while playing a CD or DVD.

    Keyboard and Touchpad

    The dv8000t features a full size keyboard with large keys except for the Function keys which are smaller. One of the big pluses of this notebook is that it features a separate number pad, which makes it much easier to work on spreadsheets.

    The keyboard is extremely easy to use. There is no flex at all. The keys are firm, tactile and large enough to press on comfortably.

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    The full size keyboard and number pad (view large image)

    The Synaptics touchpad is very responsive, and has a dedicated vertical scrolling area. Another plus for a notebook of this size, is the ample area around the touchpad to rest the wrists while typing. This also makes up for the fact that there is no touchpad on/off button, since the large palm rest area means that my hands never tap the touchpad accidentally.

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    The touchpad (view large image)

    Input and Output Ports

    The notebook comes with a lot of I/O ports. These are listed below:

    • 1 ExpressCard/54 Slot (also supports ExpressCard/34)
    • 1 PCMCIA Type I/II 32-bit card bus (also supports 16-bit)
    • 6-in-1 multi-format memory card reader
    • 1 IEEE 1394 Firewire Port
    • 4 USB 2.0 ports
    • TV-Out (S-video)
    • Integrated Infrared receiver (remote control)
    • 1 RJ-11 (modem)
    • 1 Expansion Port 2 Connector
    • 1 RJ -45 (LAN)
    • 1 VGA port

    I was particularly pleased to find both the new ExpressCard/54 and PCMCIA ports built into the notebook. Not many notebooks feature both ofthese ports.

    Wireless

    I have a wireless network set up at home, with a Linksys router. Wireless connections are a breeze, with no problems experienced till date.

    The notebook has Bluetooth v2.0 built in, and I was able to connect and pair my Bluetooth enabled headset, PDA and cellphone, with no issues. Wireless file transfer through Bluetooth, worked without a hitch. I can also listen to music from the notebook, via Bluetooth, on the headset.

    Battery

    I rarely use the notebook unplugged, but for the purposes of this review, I did a few sessions unplugged, and averaged 3 hours 37 minutes before the batteries died out. These numbers are quite respectable for a 17" widescreen desktop replacement notebook, and are slightly exceed the claimed time of 3 hours 28 minutes.

    Speaking of the battery, I noticed that HP, for some strange reason, only shows the "% remaining" for the battery, as opposed to showing both % and time remaining. But then again, this is hardly an issue, and I am sure there are software utilities out there that could display the battery time remaining.

    Operating System and Software

    While configuring this machine, I opted for the Windows XP Media Center Edition, along with the TV tuner card, so that I could connect the notebook to my cable TV connection in my room, and use it as a TV.

    There are a few good, useful software programs preinstalled in this machine, like Quicken 2006 and Quickplay 2.0, which permits CD's and DVDs to be played without booting up the machine. Unfortunately, HP also installs a ton of bloatware that was quite a pain to uninstall.

    The notebook also came with a separate "Recovery" Partition. While configuring, I also purchased the Windows XP MCE backup DVD for $10.

    I also ran the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor Beta program from Microsoft, and the notebook (and its hardware) sailed through its tests, meaning my notebook is ready for Vista, and it's much publicized Aero interface.

    TV Tuner Card

    The TV tuner card provided is the HP ExpressCard Analog TV Tuner with a remote control. It is about the same size as the Creative Audigy 2ZS for Notebooks sound card. Supplied accessories include, among others, a coaxial cable attachment, audio/video and S-video cable, and a Media Center remote control.

    Installation was a breeze. I was able to connect the cable TV connection in my room to the TV tuner card. Configuring Windows Media Center was also straightforward, and I am able to watch a sitcom or two, while I browse the internet.

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    The HP TV Tuner card with the popular Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2ZS for Notebooks (view large image)

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    The TV tuner card and accessories (view large image)

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    The HP TV Tuner Card plugged in the ExpressCard/54 slot (view large image)

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    An episode of "Friends" (view large image)

    Customer Support

    Prior to purchase, I talked to HP Customer Support a few times, in order to clear some of my queries/doubts that I had about the machine and its component hardware. Each time, my experience with them was very good - I was able to get to a representative with little wait time, and my questions were answered quickly and convincingly.

    Post purchase, I have not needed to use customer support, so I cannot really comment about this. I purchased a 2 year extended warranty from HP, and it covers all parts and labor. The notebook itself comes with a 1 year warranty.

    Conclusion

    I am extremely satisfied with the HP dv8000t notebook. I use it as a full-fledged entertainment center. I think it is arguably the only notebook that offers all the entertainment features that one could derive from a notebook, at a very competitive price, and in an aesthetically pleasing package. I wholeheartedly recommend this notebook to anyone who wishes to purchase a notebook for use as a multimedia/entertainment machine.


    Pros:

    • Value for money.
    • Incredibly gorgeous screen.
    • Runs quiet with almost no heat.
    • Decent graphics performance.
    • Good speakers.

    Cons:

    • Too much bloatware preinstalled.
    • No touchpad on/off button.
    • No built-in webcam.

    Thanks for reading my review. I hope it was entertaining and informative. Please let me know if you have any comments or questions that I could answer. Thanks again.

    extra benchmark contributions to this reviewfor an HP dv8000t with 1.0GB of 533MHz memory and 2.00GHz processorwere provided by Charles Jefferies

     
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  2. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Spectacular job! Very nicely done, and certainly a great upgrade from your Inspiron 8600.

    I'll throw in a couple of comments:

    -When the TV Tuner is inserted, it is very difficult to access the headphone, microphone, and two USB ports because they are directly under the card.

    -Left handers would be at a disadvantage with this notebook, because most of the cables go in the left side. It would be better if HP had transferred some of the ports, such as the AC power, Ethernet, and a USB port to the back. I am not sure how this would have changed the overall look and design of the dv8000t, but it would have been a lot more practical. The USB ports should be more situated to the back of the notebook rather than in the front.
    -There are no screw holes for the VGA port.

    -There are a few media buttons above the keyboard. It is good to see that volume up/down/mute buttons are present, along with QuickPlay and a Launch calculator button above the numpad. However, it would have been nice to have one to launch a media player and an Internet browser.

    -The bloatware is HORRENDOUS. Not as bad as Dell, but I was in Add/Remove programs for over 20 minutes.

    I highly agree with the points Jetstar made, including:
    -Low heat/noise.
    -Very well built, extremely solid all around.
    -No touchpad on/off button
    -Excellent keyboard, w/numpad.
    -Stunning screen
    -Decent graphics performance
    -Great speakers
    -Excellent design/looks


    I didn't quite get the battery life you did. I managed an hour and forty five last night while watching a movie at near max brightness, max speakers, and a dvd rotating in the drive. Of course, this can't be compared to yours because my dv8000t has the Ultra BrightView display; it has two lamps instead of one. I imagine it takes quite a toll on battery life. Also, mine has dual 100GB drives and yours a single drive.
    The Ultra BrightView display option and the dual hard drive option will bring down battery life considerably it seems.
     
  3. Andrew Baxter

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    It's nice to see HP keeps offering the number pad with its 17-inch models, when will Dell ever decide to actually use the space on their 17-inchers to provide the feature? The ExpressCard TV tuner is also a nice approach compared to the USB solutions Dell offers with the e1705. Much cleaner.

    It would be nice if HP put in a better graphics card offering like the e1705 does with the 7900 or Toshiba is doing with the p105 and an nvidia 7900 card, but they're obviously not targeting high-end gamers.

    Really great job on the review jetstar! Thanks.
     
  4. ArmanSLR

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    Nice review, you have a really nice system for what you use it for. If I needed a multimedia power house this would be it. It's awsome, I am wondering about the tv card you said, would that work with satalite tv like dish network?

    Excellent review, lots of great information! Ty Jetstar for teh awsome review!
    ~Arman
     
  5. ejl

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    jetstar or chaz: a lot of people have been complaining about keyboard problems. have you experienced any?
     
  6. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    I get it now.

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    Great review JetStar, very cool DTR. I love the keyboards on HPs.
     
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    sguart Notebook Geek

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    very nice review and very nice laptop... however, like abaxter said, it certainly will benefit from a wider selection of vidcard, especially on the highend models...

    when is the swappable mxm vid card module gonna be the standard in every laptop?!! it will certainly open up more laptop choices to more people...

    otherwise u r under the mercy of the brand and product line always...

    sg
     
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    Niiiiice review, Jetstar! Nicely Nicely written! :D
     
  9. deedeeman

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    well...hp advertise their laptops as multimedia machines not gamming machines...maybe thats why they dont have a go7900gs or somthing....but the go7600 being offered in their current dv8000t notebooks is good too :)

    very nice review btw!
     
  10. Notebook Solutions

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    Wow what a great review! Thanks for comparing 1.66 with 2.0 and 1 GB with 2 GB!

    Charlie :)
     
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    nice review... i am so surprised to see such battery life in there.

    that certainly is a good one.


    now i don't wonder anymore why laptops have overtaken the desktop pc market
     
  12. jetstar

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    Thanks for all the positive feedback guys. I appreciate it.

    Chaz: You are right about the TV Tuner card obstructing the 2 USB ports and the headphone and microphone ports. That is something HP should look into.

    I was able to get over 3 hours with a DVD playing, and the speakers maxed out. As you said, the display and the dual hard drives greatly influence the battery life.

    Abaxter: Yeah, it would be great if HP could offer the NVIDIA Go 7900 as an option.

    ArmanSLR: The HP TV Tuner card is compatible with satellite TV like Dish network.

    ejl: I know that some people are having problems with the keyboard, but I haven't had any.

    Once again, thanks everyone.
     
  13. Charles P. Jefferies

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    What sort of problems? I have not experienced any issues thus far; I will make a note to keep an eye out.
     
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    Nice Review

    I like the TV Tuner Express card. Now if only one would be made for more notebooks. :)

    Again, nice review.
     
  16. Smith_X

    Smith_X Notebook Geek

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    I think 7600 is the best because 7900 will take too much power consumption and that will drain battery life.
     
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    Sledgehammer70 Notebook Consultant

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    You would want the 7900 if you game, and for the fact a 17 inch, is a desktop replacement. (Fits the purpose of being at a desk, plugged in most of the time)

    Sledge, drop a PM to abaxter. And he will fill you in on what is needed, and let give you the info for what to do.
     
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    In all the reviews regarding the TV tuner cards I have yet to hear anybody say what the picture quality is?

    I know it will be somewhat dependant on the monitor but how does it compare to a regular TV? a flat panel? a plasma?
     
  20. jetstar

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    The picture quality is very good. I would say it's better than both regular and flat panel TVs. I cannot really compare the picture to a plasma display.
     
  21. Charles P. Jefferies

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    The picture from the TV tuner is clear and has good colors. Watching TV is a very enjoyable experience on the dv8000t.
    The UltraBrightView panel gives Plasma quality according to HP.