HP dv2500t, dv6500t and dv9500t Intel Santa Rosa Notebooks Announced

The stock on 7200 rpm drives must be running low. It should reappear as an option once they get production of these new models mainstreamed.

 

Are you sure the drive will make that much of a difference? I dont see even the dv6000t being offered with a 7200rpm drive.

 

Dur, the damn thing would get so hot the fan would never turn off! Geez.. All we hear about is "my fan keeps coming on" well imagine if you had a 7200rpm hard disk?

Anyway, I just bought a new dv6000t with the Core 2 Duo @2.0ghz, 2 gigs of ram and the Go7400. My machine is kickin right? I mean is this new release going to blow my computer out of the water? Should I consider returning it for the newer one?

I'm thinking not, right?

 

wdlp65: i dont think i'd return yours unless you are within the 21 days and they take it back free. One thing I was curious about...how thick is your dv6000t? The specs say it ranges which i assume is based on the battery....if I get the 6 cell extended battery, will it be 1" thin?

 

I'm at 18 days counting today.

No it's not one inch thin, I would say it's more like 1.25 inches thin. But it's still really thin, especially the lid, it's very thin. If you are looking to buy one, I would highly recommend the 12 cell battery... Sure it is big and it sticks out, but it lifts the computer up off the table for "much" better ventilation and honestly... I don't think you are going to want to view your computer in the conservative settings! The screen gets very dark and it makes the reflection off the brightview screen pretty bad in a well lit room. And trust me, using the high performance setting WILL drain a 6 cell in no time, even extended. I'd spend the extra few bucks and get the 12 cell, it's really a no brainer.

(Oh, forgot, it lifts the keyboard to the right angle for typing as well.)

 

Yah I've had extended batteries but they usually make the laptop thicker and add alot of weight. You dont think the 6-cell extended will get 3 hours under normal usage?

 

i dont think anytime upgrade allows you to go 64-bit, just go up a version. Let me know if that works. HP is dumb for not providing 64-bit editions of all levels of vista.

 

there is nothing ground breaking at all with the santa rosa update. the only thing that will give you noticeable improvements would be the gpu. i certainly worry about the higher fsb and new power saving modes of the cpu....

 

I don't know what normal usgae is to you. But if you are talking about normal usgae at the high performance settings, there is no possible way it would get anywhere close to 3 hours. Now if you are using it under the most conservative settings maybe, but the screen is so dark you are going to want to run it at a higher setting. Trust me.

It's up to you, but I actually like how the 12 cell lifts the computer off the table and gives me a more comfortable typing platform. Plus the ventilation, and that to me is very important in keeping it cool.

Think about this too. When the machine is plugged in the setting goes to high performace automatically. So you get used to and enjoy the high brightness of the screen. Now unplug it and set it to balanced or power save and you get a less than acceptable screen brightness. You're going to want increase the settings while it's unplugged and there goes your battery!

 

Does the 12-cell battery make the laptop thicker?

 

This is how the 12 cell looks:

12 cell Side 1: http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/16008.jpg

12 cell Side 2: http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/16010.jpg

12 cell backside: http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/16020.jpg

12 cell, 6 cell side by side: http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/16016.jpg

From: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=1573390

 

Thanks. After looking at that picture I definitely dont want the 12-cell

 

I was ready to order, but I will wait a month for those new GeForce cards to hit the dv2500t series.

 

Be careful, HP's website is somewhat misleading. x500t series notebooks, unlike their x000t counterparts are not currently being shipped with hdmi ports. Also, there is one less USB port. Check the spec sheet. The picture on the website is actually a picture of a x000t notebook. For a more accurate picture check:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834147434

I was advised that hdmi ports will reappear once hp begins offering discreet graphics options.

 

Ok what the hell. Looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834147436 shows a dv6500t with fingerprint scanner, webcam, and mic. Yet when I went to order I could only pick 2 of the 3. Even the rep who i chatted with said i cant get all three. Now newegg has one with all 3?

 

the $50 (last) option has all three even though it only says imprint+webcam+finger reader

 

Strange. On the CTO site you can get all 3

Edit: I gotta watch what I'm talking about. I'm always looking at the dv9500!

 

Well the cto site just lets you pick webcam+fingerprint...it says jack about the mic option but as several have pointed out, the webcam comes with an integrated mic.

I placed this order:

HP Pavilion dv6500t customizable Notebook PC

* Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)
* Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo T7300 (2.0GHz/4MB L2Cache)
* 15.4" WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x800)
* Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
* HP Imprint (Radiance) + Fingerprint Reader +Webcam
* 2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
* 120GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
* LightScribe Super Multi 8X DVD+/-RW w/Double Layer
* Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network w/Bluetooth
* No TV Tuner w/remote control
* High Capacity 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
* Microsoft(R) Works 8.0
* HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

This item ships free RM098AV 1 $1,428.99 $1,214.64

So bouts $1215+tax....not bad i think compared to other options...

 

Well it does stick out of the bottom, but in the back of the machine. The overall notebook stays the same size. It fits in the messenger bag I bought for it with no problems. I know what you are thinking and it's a legitimate worry. I mean if you are really trying to keep the notebook super thin then it's not the way to go. I just look at it from a practicallity point of view. The extended battery life, the ventilation of the machine and the angle of the keyboard are pluses. Sure the battery sticking out of the bottom is different, but in my opinion it's well worth it.

 

totally agree.

 

I have an HP laptop and use the extended battery the same way you are saying. And I agree I like how it tilts the laptop when placed on a desk. But I'm getting this laptop to be sleek and portable. 3 hours is enough battery time for me so I'd rather have the lighter weight and sleeker form factor. I was actually comparing this to a macbook which are very thin and sleek but for the same price I was able to get alot more bang for my money. However I still wanted something thin. Is the 12-cell battery one that can be added on to the laptop or does it replace the internal battery?

 

i wish they would have launched it with the nv 8400.... HP wouldn't say when they are going to launch it.

 

Hurray.. NVidia Launches the 8xxxM series GPUs
NVIDIA GeForce 8M Notebook Graphics Card Series Released

Now .. gotta wait till HP includes this as a option for the dv6500t and dv9500t laptops.. Cant wait any longer.. man

 

Strange to reply to myself, but anyway...

CNet seems to think that the battery life will be better on systems using the intel graphics. They are rating the battery life based on an "intensive" DVD test. However, the new Geforce 8 processors have a feature that lets the DVD decoding go through the GPU, which uses less power than the CPU.

So if you are looking for longer runtimes watching DVDs, my bet is that the geforce chips will give you better battery life than the intel video.

Unfortunately I cannot find a link on the cnet site to inform them of this probable error.

 

This would be shocking, as well as a first. Nothing currently beats the low-power utilization of a GMA950, and I don't really see the X3100 being too far behind it (if at all).

If nVidia has somehow made this possible, it would be nothing short of a miracle (especially in an era of power-hungry graphics solutions).

 

My point is that DVD and HD video will probably be better for battery life in the geforce, unless the X3100 also has hardware decoding built-in. For the desktop I'm betting they are comparable, but with gaming, all bets are off.

Though my real complaint is how cnet took the results of the DVD test and assumed it was caused by the santa rosa, instead of looking at what the geforce was also bringing to the table.

 

do anybody know how long will it take for HP to release the NVIDIA 8400M option on the dv6500t series?
and why is it worth waiting for the NVIDIA 8400M even tho I'm not a Gamer or graphic designer?

 

No one knows, it's only rumors. People saying about a month. There is a post on the front page here with an article talking about why you might want it.

 

It's not. You can read here what the GeForce 8 offers in terms of video playback. If you're not gaming and you're not rendering, it's not worth it to wait though. The Intel GMA X3100 would do just as well for you.

 

I'm not convinced of this. We don't know what's in the pipeline for Vista for the next year, and Vista is native DirectX 10. It will do Directx9, but in a compatibility layer.

Also, from what I've read, the DVD and HD video playback using the gf8 will use significantly less power than if it were decoding on the CPU. It might be enough to get you through a whole movie on the plane.

 

I am. DirectX 10 means basically nothing if you're not gaming. What does DirectX 9 mean to users today on Windows XP - what if we were still using DirectX 8? Most non-gaming users wouldn't notice/care. Aero is DirectX 9, and that is not changing.

As for your second statement, yes, having a GeForce 8 GPU in a computer will help with power consumption while playing high-definition content. The GPU will do the work and not the CPU, and therefore you'll have less power usage - I know. But it's undeniable that the integrated card will use less power and produce less heat for everything else. And how often will you be watching a high-def movie? I don't think the tradeoffs of getting a dedicated GPU over an integrated one for a non-gamer are worth it.

 

Umm yah i dont think you can say watching hi def content will use less power when using the 8400m. Sure it will use less cpu so less cpu power will be used but the gpu will be cranking and eating up the power so power wise it'll prob net the same. The advantage will be that you wont see any lost frames when playing hidef content with an 8400M. However considering the amount of power in these CPUs I dont know if thats an issue. Can this cpu play bluray content with the strongest compresssion using only cpu? That may be an instance where you want the 8400m. My question is if i get the x3100 now, can i upgrade to the 8400m? Its the same chassis right?

 

laptops arent built the same way desktops are... that means they aren't upgradeable just like desktops are.... in laptops u can only upgrade a small amount of things like memory... unfortunately, graphic cards cannot be upgraded later on down the road.. so basically wat ever u initially bought (integrated or dedicated) ur stuck with it.. so choose wisely.

 

Nothing has been proven yet, but if the CPU is idle it is not going to use that much power. I think the CPU @ idle and the GPU @ full would be less total power consumption than the CPU @ full and the GPU @ idle. According to Nvidia, the CPU should be doing virtually nothing while playing hi-def content because the GPU will be doing it all.

I doubt that the Core 2 Duo will have any problem playing hi-def content without the assistance of a GPU like the 8400.

 

When something is decoded in hardware, it will definitely use much less power than on the CPU. So if the GPU has dedicated hardware for hidef video, then it will certainly be able to do it at lower power.

It's the same reason why a DVD player costs $30 at walmart, but you still need a pretty decent (priced) PC to get the same ability.

 

320GB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive on dv6500t is so sweet! I was wondering about the money back guerantee someone will order a notebook use it scratch it then give it back after 2 weeks and they will sell it again as a brand new?

 

There is no such thing as a 320GB 7200 RPM laptop hard drive... that is a misprint

For more information visit this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=122487#1

 

Will HP at least give us an option to choose between an GF 8400m G, GS, & GT?

 

Doubtful. They'll probably just offer one of the three and might not even say which one it is.

I have a question. Is the 2GB of memory on the dv6500t at 667 MHz? It doesn't say.

Also, does having 7200 rpm make the notebook faster than having 5400rpm? I assume it does but I wanted to make sure. Is it worth the extra money to get 7200 rpm over 5400rpm?

As soon as HP puts in those new video cards, they'll have a deal..

 

I think it will be the GF 8400m G; its a pretty big leap from the Go7200 in the dv2000t.

The memory on the older models (x000t) was at 533MHz, it seems likely that they would have moved on to 667MHz in the x500t models.

The 7200RPM hard drives have only one compromise, that being price. It will help in bootup and application loading times, and also in hard drive intensive activities. If you have the money, its worth it, as it doesn't significantly effect battery life or heat levels.

 

Hmm...the specs for the dv6500t says FSB is 667mhz. However these new Intel chips are supposed to be 800mhz FSB.

 

7200RPM will dry the battery faster
5400RPM is the best for mobile laptop because its balanced (less heat and less power need and less noise )

 

Yeah, I noticed that too. When you click "More Info" at processor, there is this blurb I noticed:

I guess they are confused, unless the standard T7100 runs on a 667 FSB? They did say it was "processor dependant".

 

and less performance (down with 20-30%)

 

its better to buy desktop if the 20 or 30 % is important (try using raptor 10000 RPM !!!)

 

why are you thinking so ? i have 2 HDDs at 7,200 and my lappy is almost as mute as off ! the air from the vents, now that is a bigger noise ! if someone buys 800Mhz processor with 667Mhz DDR and a strong video card.. do you think, the sound is a concern for him or a faster HDD ?

 

hmm...i ordered mine with the 5400rpm 120gb...i didnt want to spend another $100 for a 7200rpm drive and i doubt i'd need that much space....

 

well, now this is a real reason, the cost ! but you had the choice of having a 80Gb @ 7,200 rpm, instead of yours if you're saying that space is not a concern for you..

 

WOW , you have 2 HDDs at 7,200 !! nice

ist raid 0 ?

what about the battery life ?

 

Yah I'd rather have 80gb@7200rpm rather than [email protected] the only 7200rpm option they have is the expensive 320gb. I'll just stick with the 120gb for now. Is it relatively easy to switch it out with a 300gb 7200rpm in a year or so or do I need to get the HP specific one in order for thermals and fans to react appropriately?