HP Releases Mini 1000 Notebook

HP has started to promote its more consumer oriented netbook, the Pavilion Mini 1000, on the HP Shopping website today for $399. While the actual product page and ability to buy are not yet up, it's clear that early this week you'll be able to punch the buy button on yet another new netbook to enter the market.

Since the only thing on the HP site with information on the Mini 1000 is a splash they're running on the homepage (see below) the exact specs are still not known.

So here is what's known:

• The price will start at $399
• Weight of 2.25lbs, therefore it must be made of plastic and not aluminum like the HP Mini-Note 2133
• Thickness ofthe Mini 1000 is 1" and therefore thinner than the Acer Aspire One
• The same mouse button layout is used as that on the Acer Aspire One -- the left mouse button rests on the left side of the touchpad and the right mouse button on the right side

Here is what we can safely assume:

• The Mini 1000 will have an Intel Atom processor as opposed to the VIA processor in the Mini-Note 2133
• The screen will be 10-inches
• There will be a swirl imprint finish on the body much like the rest of the Pavilion line of laptops
• Windows XP will be offered as the OS

What we don't know is whether the storage will be flash versus hard drive nor do we know what the screen resolution will be. The hope is for a WXGA screen, but more than likely it will be WSVGA like most of the other netbooks out there.

One thing is for sure, the choice of netbooks continues to proliferate and if you have $400 burning a hole in your pocket and a strong desire to buy a portable PC then youroptions are becoming vast.

 

****, was looking forward to seeing a VIA Nano machine.

 

2.25lb weight is with 3-cell battery?

 

Hmmm..This will be nice to check out a bit further, on actual release.

I saw the HP Vivienne Tam 10" Netbook, on Engadget and that one...looks kind of nice (well, to me)


Cin

 

it is very nice...****,I just started to enjoy my 1000h...and I still do!

 

Yes, it looks that way! Glad your still enjoying yours!~ I think Im being to *fussy* on the color choices & specifics as to what I want out of a netbook! LOL...


Cin

 

From here: http://thetechnicist.typepad.com/the_technicist/2008/10/hp-mini-1000---what-we-know-thus-far.html

There will be a red coloured model with a design done by the artist Vivienne Tam. HP showed it off last month; it featured the same 10" screen and Atom processor in the Mini 1000, and was said to be available this December as well.

 

Yep! The Vivienne Tam actually look's like a nice *clutch* lol I think, that depending on the individual..it could be a good seller!

Here is a Laptopmag, article with further pic's based on the Designer Vivienne Tam...

http://blog.laptopmag.com/hp-shows-off-10-inch-netbook-the-next-mini-note

And, Engadget latest:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/23/hps-vivienne-tam-edition-netbook-gets-real-coming-this-decembe/

Cin

 

Looks good... But I'm still waiting for Dual-Core Atoms.

 

I really liked everything about the HP 2133 but just the very weak performance of the Via C7 processor and chipset killed it for me.

I'm really glad to see this model come out, with a larger screen in the same chassis, less bezel is always good. I really like the 1280x768 resolution vs 1064x600 in almost all netbooks and the Expresscard slot. The design is very pleasing as well.

Now its also targeted towards the consumer instead of businesses and professionals like the 2133 was, I think this may be a great success for HP and be great competition to the incredibly crowded netbook market.

 

I hope it has Isiah. That chip is overdue.

 

Looks nice and has a great price to go along with it. I think 10 inches is much more preferable for a netbook.

 

The problem being that its probably not going to have a WXGA screen and will likely have the same WSVGA 1024x600 as every other netbook. However, it is simply the best looking netbook on the market (except for maybe the S101), plus, its an HP, so it will be a huge hit I think. It kinda looks like Dell's netbook has flopped though.

 

wow this is really awesome, can not wait to find out more info

 

Would also like to see a VIA Nano in it mostly just to see what that chip can actually accomplish.

Also is there a new VIA/S3 chipset/gpu for the Nano or would it still use the Chrome9? Not looking to get a 9K+ 3dMark06 score out of a netbook but would love something better than the GMA950.

 

I was just about to say... If the GPU Isaiah uses is weaker than GMA950, I'd rather stick with Atom.

 

This is a problem for me. I hate the left-right button alignment. Very counter-intuitive. Also, I wonder what #-cell battery it comes with.

 

Its not optimal as far as ergonomics go, but I wouldn't say counter intuitive, necessarily. It is a design necessity as far as the sizing goes though, because otherwise, you'd end up with a touchpad the size of the original EEE, which was like 1.6x1" or something really small to the point of unusability. (Yes, I just made that word up.)

 

Nothing wrong with making up words.

I would agree with you, except for the fact that the left-right button configuration is definitely in the minority. How come other netbook manufacturers have managed to carve out decent sized touchpads to go with the traditional mouse button placements beneath it?

 

In fact, why not have a configuration like this:

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Where both left and right clicks are on one side.

Looks asymmetical, but I bet it's more usable.

But to answer your question, it's because other netbooks have smaller keyboards.

 

Acer did it too. Its not really the minority. Remember the original design was based on a 9" screen. Acer and HP moved the mouse buttons, Asus made the keyboard small and the touchpad tiny, while Dell just decided to mutilate the keyboard. Pick your poison.

10"ers like the Wind, S10, and EEE 1000 all came later, and had the kind of size to fit both a reasonable keyboard/touchpad and the mouse button in the right place.

 

I'd love to have a joystick on it like on my hp 2710p. they are much more usable on small-size devices than touchpads anyways.

of course, still support the touchpad as people are used to it..

 

Thats something - I really don't know why nobody has put a trackpoint mouse in a netbook. I mean, even the full size ThinkPad X makes do without a touchpad and has just the trackpoint.

 

I'll agree with that. Its a matter of personal preference. I think that the traditional button setup works better, but I'm sure others may differ. However, I haven't seen anyone on this board singing the praises of the left-right button configuration.

Seconded. That would seem to be a very simple solution to an apparently vexing problem for netbook makers.

 

you only got half the story, the other half is that their will be a refresh of the 2133.

the new plastic consumer netbook will use Atom, yes, but what will the business oriented 2133 refresh use?

HP have three choices with the refresh mininote 2133 assuming they stick with Via CPU's:

1. keep the same terrible integrated Via chipset
2. use a Via chipset with the new S3 400 ULP GPU for netbooks
3. use the nVidia MCP79 ulv integrated chipset as found in the new MBA

I wonder which it will be?

 

oddly enough, there is a petition for HP to use the MCP79 in the refresh mininote 2133:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mininote/petition.html

 

I won't argue about the S101, but I believe the Samsung NC10 is definitely up there in terms of looks. It's as handsome as the rest, if not better. Plus the Asus has the effed up right Shift key. Will they never learn? I would rather deal with the screwed up mouse buttons than that stupid place of the shift and Up Arrow cursor keys.

TrackPoint mice are considered premium which is why you will rarely, if ever, see them in a netbook. It's hard enough finding them in Enterprise class laptops.

 

I really don't know. I didn't even find enough information on it to even speculate on the specs, other than to confirm its existence. I then took a few things for granted, given that they had split the lines up - aluminum build, high res screen, same awesome keyboard/mouse, but nothing else was obvious. I think they'll be sticking to VIA as before to preserve their previous alliance (and because VIA has new chips out anyways), but HP could just as well switch to Atom due to its popularity. We'll see, no?

 

they said they could not justify using two different hardware platforms in the same product line, but HP are clearly going to have two product lines, so the logic goes that they could use Atom for consumer netbooks and Nano for business netbooks (aka 2133 refresh).

that leads to the question; what combination of chipset/gpu will they use with the Via Nano in the 2133 refresh..................?

i outlined the potential options above.

 

HP is under no obligation to use Via's chips, so I believe they will use whatever their ODM (Inventec) decides to use and I believe it will be the Atom this time around due to the pricing advantages and popularity.

 

Again, I like it! But, I am going to wait til it's release & more releases from other brands on their Netbooks...to make my decision...I plan on having one ordered before Christmas, if everything works out like it should


Cin

 

no obligation, no.

but the 2133 isn't competing against the myriad of consumer netbooks, it is a business/education machine than justifies a higher pricetag.
using via allows them to offer a huge leap in perfomance just by access to better GPU technology. the future is OpenCL/CUDA/DX11 compute shaders, and this is something the 945G can never provide.

HP have decided they want to compete in the cut-price consumer market, and lo, the mininote 1000 is born, but that is a different product for a different market than the 2133 and its imminent refresh.

 

I think a netbook jumping out of the GMA950 mold would be a big deal and the components are available right now for a company to do that.

HP stands in clearly the best position to do that with the VIA Nano with an S3 or nVidia chipset, so it would be a real shame if they instead just offered what everyone else already is.

 

agreed, if the 2133 refresh either switched to Atom/945G or stuck Via integrated graphics and the Nano i would be disappointed.

 

HP will need considerable scale in order to get their ODMs to use the newer Via chipsets. Don't think a lot of HP's enterprise customers have actually told HP that they want a Via chip specifically. They are generally more concerned about keyboard, touchpad, screen quality and overall portability/durability.

 

i see your point, but i can only hope you are wrong.

 

That seems to be a good arrangement to me... certainly its more intuitive than the current configuration.

 

It'd be far too easy to screw up and either hit both buttons at once, or to hit the wrong button. I'm not a fan.

 

gotta say in like it the way it is.

 

The problem is, what if HP can't make any money on this product?

Or what if every buyer of one of these take away from a buyer of a regular $700 laptop?

 

why do netbooks settle only for atom chips? why not dual core?

 

Then it wouldn't be a netbook. If you want that kind of power get a regular laptop.

 

There are dual core Atom processors out, no one has been using them though right now. Netbooks use Atom processors since they are low in power consumption and are used for tasks that generally don't need a lot of power.

 

Cost, size, power consumption, and cost.

 

Mostly power consumption. I mean, the Asus N10J retails for $750 or something, if any netbook could actually fit a dual core atom into its thermal design constraints with little regard to cost, the N10 would have been it. However, a dual core Atom doubles the power consumption, which doubles the heat output, which means....

A lot of power in a very cramped space leads to bad things with regards to heat and device life.

 

Does anyone know how the speed of the different drives compares?

They offer a 60gb 4200rpm PATA HDD
16gb (solid state drive flash module)

just wondering which one is faster, thats all I am really concerned about.