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    HP ProBook 4710s Review

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Jerry Jackson, Jul 10, 2009.

  1. Jerry Jackson

    Jerry Jackson Administrator NBR Reviewer

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    by Jerry Jackson

    The HP ProBook 4710s is a low-priced 17-inch business notebook designed to provide businesses with a good desktop replacement notebook without breaking the bank. If your company wants the HP Elitebook 8730w but has a tight budget, the ProBook 4710s might be a good alternative at a starting price of just $899. Is this budget-priced notebook as good as it sounds? Keep reading to find out.

    Our pre-production review unit of the ProBook 4710s is configured as follows:

    • Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 2.53GHz Processor (3MB L2 cache, 1066MHz FSB)
    • Microsoft Genuine Windows Vista Business (32-bit)
    • 17.3-inch LED-backlit anti-glare HD+ display (1600 x 900)
    • ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330 512MB
    • 4GB DDR2 800MHz RAM
    • 320GB 5400RPM HDD
    • LightScribe DVD+/-RW Optical Drive
    • Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/draft-n), Ethernet, Modem, Bluetooth 2.0
    • 8-Cell 63WHr Battery
    • Limited 1-year standard parts and labor warranty
    • Dimensions: 1.26" x 16.17" x 10.63"
    • Weight: 6.8lbs
    • Price as configured: $1,099

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    Build and Design
    The HP ProBook 4710s, like the rest of the new HP ProBook family, is a low-cost business notebook designed specifically for small and medium businesses. Translation: this desktop replacement notebook needs to have a good balance of performance, security, reliability and extras all at an affordable price. Most notebooks designed for small and medium business tend to sacrifice build quality in order to help lower the cost of production and lower the cost to customers. On that note, the ProBook 4710s looks very similar to a HP EliteBook 8730w with all plastic construction, a new keyboard and all black finish.

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    The HP EliteBook line uses strong magnesium alloy chassis designs and premium internal components. In order to lower the cost and weight of the 17-inch ProBook 4710s, HP constructed this notebook mostly of plastic. The base of the laptop flexes heavily under pressure, the palmrests likewise bow when pressed firmly, and the back of the screen lid is similarly prone to flex. The plastics used in the 4710s will surely survive the typical use and abuse seen by most office desktop replacements, but the chassis might not survive multiple drops off a desk or the kind of abuse we expect the EliteBook series to handle with ease. The key point to remember in this section is that the ProBook 4710s looks pretty nice, but isn't designed to be a rugged mobile workhorse. Thankfully, HP still offers some good internal components to help make the ProBook 4710s a solid value.

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    The outer shell of the screen casing, like the rest of the notebook, is made of plastic. The lid is made of reflective, glossy plastic with the HP and ProBook logos printed in silver. The laptop screen housing is a mixture of firm and flexible materials. The frame around the screen is solid enough to prevent me from twisting the screen when force is applied, but the back of the lid is flexible enough that I was able to create ripples on the screen when I pressed on the back of the screen lid.

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    The simple black design of the ProBook series combines matte and glossy textures for a clean appearance without the personalized style of HP's consumer-oriented Pavilion line. Our review unit comes equipped with the "Noir" black finish but the smaller ProBook notebooks are also offered in a "Merlot" red color ... just in case black is too boring for your office.

    Although it's fair to criticize the plastic construction, the 4710s still features hard drive shock protection in the form of HP 3D DriveGuard which will help to protect your hard drive in the event the laptop gets dropped or violently bumped. HP also includes HP ProtectTools with drive encryption, Device Access Manager, HP Spare Key (a program that helps employees access their computer in case they forget their password), HP Disk Sanitizer, File Sanitizer, and McAfee Security Solution for those small businesses that need reliability and ease of use but don't have the resources of a dedicated IT department.

    However, I still have a hard time understanding why HP makes it so difficult to upgrade to the ProBook 4710s. Most notebooks have a removable panel (or panels) on the bottom of the notebook to access the RAM, hard drive, and wireless card. Not so with the ProBook 4710s. HP designed the ProBook series with a solid base so that you have to remove 10 screws and the entire top half of the chassis (including separate speaker grill, keyboard, and touchpad area) in order to replace or upgrade components. If you or your small IT department want to upgrade the RAM or replace a hard drive you've got to completely disassemble and reassemble the notebook to do it. Granted, many businesses will never upgrade their notebook and will simply use the stock configuration until the notebook is are replaced ... but the complexity of upgrades and repairs is something to keep in mind.

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    Screen and Speakers
    The ProBook 4710s comes equipped with a 17.3" anti-glare display with a 16:9 widescreen ratio. At 1600 x 900 pixels, this high-definition display looks very nice with excellent details, good color and great contrast. We know many people are still concerned about the transition from 16:10 to 16:9 ratio screens (because this often means less vertical resolution) but since most 17-inch notebooks in this price range had WXGA+ screens (1440 x 900 pixels) the screen on the ProBook 4710s actually gives you more screen real estate ... not less.

    Horizontal viewing angles are quite good and you only start to notice some color shift after you exceed 75 degrees off center. Vertical viewing angles are only average as the screen begins to wash out from above and colors begin to invert from below after about 45 degrees in either direction.

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    The speakers on the ProBook 4710s, like the speakers on the smaller 4510s, fail to impress. HP generally scores well with our editorial staff based on the quality of the speakers used in their notebooks. Unfortunately, while the audio quality from the 4710s is good enough for watching a webcast or hearing system sounds, the built-in speakers lack a full range of highs, middles, and lows. The highest volume settings are loud enough to fill an office with sound for a presentation, but audio begins to sound distorted at higher volume levels.

    Despite the weak performance of the built-in speakers, they are well placed above the keyboard to direct sound up and toward the user.

    The headphone jack on the 4710s works well with the three different brands of earphones I used during the test. No static or other noise was noticed through the jack besides imperfections in the audio source itself.

    Keyboard and Touchpad
    The full-size keyboard on the 4710s is a new design that HP unveiled with the launch of the ProBook series. The keyboard provides extra spacing between the individual keys to help reduce typos and even includes a dedicated number pad (a major plus for businesses that use their computers for number crunching or data entry). Each key is relatively flat with a nice matte texture and the keys sit above a glossy black support frame. The support frame surrounding the keys is quite firm thanks to the design of the chassis which adds additional support for the keyboard. The only obvious area of flex in the keyboard is when you press on the number pad keys.

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    The height of the keys seems a bit much since they sit so far above the surrounding frame that dust or crumbs might settle beneath the keys. Other than that, this is a nice keyboard. The individual key presses are quiet without loud clicking sounds as you type. The throw of each key press is excellent, though some people may dislike the flat, chicklet-style keys. Overall the keyboard layout is nice and large ... like you expect to see on a 17-inch desktop replacement notebook.

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    The touchpad is very responsive to my touch with a scroll zone on the right side that works exactly as it should. The touchpad texture feels fine, but the plastics used seem to be the kind that will develop wear over time and use. The plastic touchpad buttons are about the right size, but require a deep press in order to register a click. This wouldn't be a problem if the area directly beneath the touchpad buttons was indented to allow the side of your thumb to press the buttons all the way down. Unfortunately, when you try to press the touchpad buttons your thumb hits the bottom edge of the notebook. This problem is compounded by the fact that if you press the outside edges of the touchpad buttons it's possible to press them without the buttons actually registering the click.

    We would have also liked to see a dedicated touchpad disable button (like the ones HP uses on their consumer notebooks) so that you can disable the touchpad if you're using an external mouse.

    Ports and Features
    The 4710s features a good balance of ports on both the left and right sides, so let us take a brief tour ...

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    Left side: Here we see the Kensington lock slot, GigE Ethernet, heat exhaust, VGA out, HDMI, an ExpressCard/34 slot, and two USB ports.

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    Right side: Two USB ports, modem (under a rubber flap), optical drive and power jack.

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    Rear side: The battery and hinges.


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    Front side: Media card reader, headphone out and microphone in jacks.

    Performance and Benchmarks
    Our review unit of the ProBook 4710s came with the Intel P8700 processor, clocking in at 2.53GHz, and ATI discrete graphics. The ATI Radeon 4330 GPU with 512MB of dedicated memory sounds impressive, but this is a fairly entry-level discrete graphics solution for a 17-inch desktop replacement. The 4330 graphics provide enough power for watching HD content, editing video, and even playing some games, but this system isn't designed to handle complex 3D rendering jobs like the workstation-class HP EliteBook 8530w with Nvidia Quadro FX 3700M graphics. A 320GB 5400rpm hard drive was also included, which worked fine, but applications might have loaded faster with a 7200rpm hard drive. This notebook won't likely exceed your expectations in terms of performance, but the 4710s has more than enough power to handle Microsoft Office or even HD video work.

    With that said, let's jump into the performance benchmarks.

    wPrime processor comparison results (lower scores mean better performance):

    Notebook / CPU wPrime 32M time
    HP EliteBook 8530w (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9300 @ 2.53GHz) 15.701 seconds
    Lenovo W700 (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9300 @ 2.53GHz) 15.771 seconds
    Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme X7900 @ 2.8GHz) 29.477 seconds
    HP ProBook 4710s (Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 @ 2.53GHz) 30.341 seconds
    HP EliteBook 8530w (Intel Core 2 Duo T9400 @ 2.53GHz) 30.919 seconds
    Dell Studio 17 (Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50GHz) 31.574 seconds
    Dell Precision M6300 (Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 @ 2.0GHz) 46.797 seconds



    PCMark05 measures overall system performance (higher scores mean better performance):

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    HP EliteBook 8730w (2.53GHz Intel QX9300, Nvidia Quadro FX 3700M 1GB) 8,672 PCMarks
    Lenovo W700 (2.53GHz Intel QX9300, NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M 1GB) 8,207 PCMarks
    Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme X7900 2.8GHz, Dual Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT 512MB) 7,148 PCMarks
    Dell Precision M6300 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M) 7.070 PCMarks
    HP EliteBook 8530w (2.53GHz Intel T9400, Nvidia Quadro FX 770M 512MB) 6,287 PCMarks
    Dell Studio 17 (2.50GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T9300, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650) 5,982 PCMarks
    HP ProBook 4710s (2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo P8700, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330) 5,739 PCMarks


    3DMark06 graphics comparison against notebooks @ 1280 x 800 resolution (higher scores mean better performance):

    Notebook 3DMark06 Score
    HP EliteBook 8730w (2.53GHz Intel QX9300, Nvidia Quadro FX 3700M 1GB) 14,271 3DMarks
    Lenovo W700 (2.53GHz Intel QX9300, NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M 1GB) 11,214 3DMarks
    Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme X7900 2.8GHz, Dual Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT 512MB) 8,536 3DMarks
    Dell Precision M6300 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M) 5,335 3DMarks
    Dell Studio 17 (2.50GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T9300, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650) 2,974 3DMarks
    HP ProBook 4710s (2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo P8700, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330) 2,823 3DMarks

    HDTune storage drive performance test:
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    Heat and Noise
    During normal use (browsing the web or working on a text document) the ProBook 4710s remained relatively cool but not very quiet. The exhaust fan seemingly runs a full blast when the notebook is plugged in, so your coworkers might hear what sounds like a distant hair dryer in a quiet office. This is exactly the same problem we noted with the smaller ProBook 4510s, and we suspect the fan is running loud because there isn't sufficient air flow coming from the bottom of the chassis. The solid bottom of the notebook inhibits air intake for the cooling fan, making the internal components run warmer and the cooling fan has to work harder. When doing tasks that stress the processor and graphics, the laptop's fan works extremely hard to keep this laptop cool. Five minutes after running the 3DMark06 benchmark the bottom of the notebook was still hotter than 110 degrees Fahrenheit.

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    Battery
    HP offers the ProBook 4710s with a 8-cell 63WHr battery. The battery life of the extended life 8-cell battery is better than average for a 17-inch notebook, but not amazing. During our timed tests, with the laptop set to "HP Optimized" mode, wireless active, and 70% screen brightness, the 4710s lasted for 3 hours and 35 minutes before critical shut down. Battery life can also be extended by lowering the screen brightness and using the "power saver" power profile in Windows Vista.

    Conclusion
    The HP ProBook 4710s is a well-configured desktop replacement that probably deserves some attention from medium business buyers. HP did a good job balancing the system specs such as processor, graphics and high-resolution screen with a modest price point.

    Still, things like the plastic construction, uncomfortable touchpad design, difficulty of upgrades, and poor cooling might give potential buyers reasons to look at alternatives such as the Dell Vostro 1720 or Toshiba Satellite L550.

    Bottom line, the HP ProBook 4710s, like the rest of the ProBook line, is a good notebook for its intended market. However, HP has some room for improvement if they want to turn this laptop into a deal that's too good to pass up.

    Pros:

    • A great price for a 17" business notebook
    • Nice keyboard
    • Attractive, conservative design

    Cons:

    • Sub-par build quality
    • Bad touchpad buttons
    • Too difficult to upgrade
    • Poor thermal design (gets hot)
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  2. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    What about getting old-"new" 8710?
     
  3. MGS2392

    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    I never liked the ProBook series, and I still don't. In my eyes, the only redeeming feature is the lack of bottom vents.
     
  4. siLc

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    That "redeeming" feature could be its untimely doom, because a hot-running cheap-o HP could soon be a dead HP.
     
  5. MGS2392

    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    Bed time friendliness I do want. If Apple can do it, HP could have, as long as they did it right. Otherwise, doing so in intention of keeping it cool on a bed or cloth surface results it in being hot all the time.
     
  6. undoIT

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    Does the touchpad support multi-touch functionality like two-finger scroll etc? Kind of a shame that HP didn't include dual-pointing devices like most other business laptops.
     
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    siLc Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    But neither did Dell with Vostro or Lenovo with Thinkpad SL series. The competitors didn't do it - no incentive for HP to do it.
     
  8. undoIT

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    Yeah. I guess the cheap business laptops don't get dual pointing devices. I personally wouldn't buy a biz laptop without the dual-pointing device option, so much better ergonomically and the track stick can't be beat for tracing circles and contours.