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    HP Pavilion Verve Notebook User Review

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by ToxicBanana, Oct 2, 2007.

  1. ToxicBanana

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    The notebook under review is Hewlett Packard’s 14” dv2550 Special Edition (Verve) Pavilion. It is built on Intel’s Centrino Duo (Santa Rosa) platform, and is marketed as an “Entertainment PC”. The notebook has been used daily for a period of 40 days at the time of review. The specs of the dv2550se are as follows:


    • Processor: Intel Core2Duo T5250 1.5GHz
    • Ram: 2GB
    • Video: Integrated Intel GMA X3100 (384Mb shared)
    • Screen:  14” BrightView Widescreen WXGA 1280 x 800
    • Hard Drive: 160Gb, 5400rpm
    • Wireless: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
    • Battery: 12 Cell
    • Ports: 5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader, 3 USB 2.0,  2 Headphone out, 1 microphone-in, VGA (15-pin), S-video, RJ-11 (modem), RJ -45 (LAN), expansion port, Firewire, Consumer IR.
    • OS: Windows Vista Home Premium

    The Verve will soon be sold via HP.com as the configurable Pavilion dv2600t, but currently is only available via Best Buy.

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    Reasons for Buying:

    I first decided almost a year ago that I needed a new laptop. I wanted something small and powerful like Dell’s XPS M1210. However, being a ski bum made financing the purchase quite difficult. I decided to wait for Santa Rosa and some money. Then, to my excitement, the XPS M1330 was announced. However, still being in a financial bind from my winter stint in Whistler, tuition took priority leaving the M1330 beyond my grasp – Dell’s XPS premium price could not be justified.

    Thus, 14” models became the compromise between size/performance and price. I considered many, including the:

    I originally wanted a small powerful notebook with good 3D performance. However, I could no longer wait for a 14” model with an Nvidia 8600 GT.  Then HP’s Verve caught my eye, and I was torn between performance and style. I made a 360, convincing myself its performance would be more than enough and the price would still allow me to buy groceries while in school. The day it was released in Canada (which so far has been the only dv2500 released in Canada), I headed out to Best Buy with credit card in hand.

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    Where and How Purchased:

    I purchased this at Best Buy for $1,200CND – considering our dollar, I would have saved about $250 had I crossed the border to make the purchase. However, compared to other available notebooks, it is still good value. The only painful part was dealing with the salesman at Best Buy – it took 40 min to actually purchase.

    Build &amp; Design:

    HP Pavilions are some of the best looking notebooks available, with a sleek appearance and clean lines. They are an attempt at reducing the trend of MacBook popularity by breaking free of the utilitarian mold. The dv2550se takes this design and further improves it, adding the “Verve” Imprint finish with a unique pattern and attractive colours. HP has put great detail into the finish, including printing the wave pattern right onto the trackpad.

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    The build quality is good, and pretty much identical to the previous dv2000 generation notebooks. While not as strong as a ThinkPad, its construction can be considered above average for this price range. Overall it feels sturdy, everything fits together snugly, and the screen hinges are comfortably stiff (minimal bounce). The plastics used feel strong and scratch resistant. However, without a magnesium frame in the screen, there is a little flex, and when pressed from behind there are screen ripples at the top left where some internal part is pressing against the display. The screen can be extended back to a maximum of 45 degrees. After a month of use, I am beginning to notice keyboard marks on the screen. They do come off when rubbed with the included microfiber cloth.

    The dv2550se includes a 12 cell battery which raises the notebook off the desk. This may be undesirable to some people because of the added thickness and weight, but it does offer improved cooling and longer battery life. However, because the battery is off-center, it becomes a little awkward when supported by a lap.

     

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    Screen:

    For anyone who has seen HP’s BrightView glossy screens, they appear bright, crisp, and vibrant – very impressive. However, they do have their flaws. Viewing angles are poor (not a big concern on laptops used by one person), and the glossy screen is very reflective (useless outdoors). Even with these concerns I would still pick this screen over any other option. However, caution must be taken when editing photos due to the contrast differences with slight changes in viewing angle. The 1280x800 resolution is well suiting of the 14” screen size. Backlighting is very even, with a barely noticeable dimming at the bottom corners.

    The first dv2550se I purchased came with a very annoying bright green stuck pixel. I returned it to Best Buy only to receive a new screen with a dead pixel. I decided that the dead pixel would be tolerable, as it is no more noticeable than dust accumulation on the screen. At the launch of the dv2550se in Canada, many people in the forums here at notebookreview were complaining of stuck and dead pixels – it seems HP knowingly or unknowingly released a batch of screens with quality issues.

    Speakers:

    The sound quality of the Altec Lansing speakers is excellent for their size. I have yet to bother using my spare external 5.1 speakers. They can be turned up quite loud, are very clear, and never crackle – unlike the Polk Audio speakers I experienced with an older HP. However, bass is limited due to size restrictions – perhaps in the future HP will find place for a mini-woofer.

    Two headphone jacks are conveniently located at the front of the notebook. This is great if you’re sitting on a plane, but frustrating if you intend to use external speakers. This can be worked around by purchasing an HP QuickDock for external speakers.

    Processor and Performance:

    The dv2550se is equipped with a 1.5Ghz Intel T5250 Core 2 Duo processor. It is the slowest of Intel’s Santa Rosa chips (excluding their low power chips), but is far from slow. I was hesitant purchasing a notebook with a “value” processor, but realized it is more than capable for most computing tasks. If your hobby is video editing, 3D rendering, or scientific computing, I would look elsewhere. However, if you edit the odd video, render a few 3D scenes, or simulate the occasional turbulent flow model, the dv2550se is more than capable – it will just take a little longer.

    The same can be said for the integrated Intel X3100 graphic included in this notebook. It is more than capable at handling HD video, the odd game, and Vista Aero. However, if you want to play modern 3D games in all their glory, look elsewhere.

    While the CPU and GPU offer only base performance in this Special Edition notebook, HP can at least be commended for including 2Gb of RAM. In a Vista world, 2Gb is almost a prerequisite for multitasking with applications like Word, Firefox, Photoshop, and AutoCAD.

    Like in most laptops, a 5400rpm HDD is the major performance bottle neck. As this notebook is intended to replace my desktop (the current trend), I have yet to become used to a slower hard drive. However, having a 12 cell battery makes upgrading to a 7200rmp HDD very appealing.

    Benchmarks:

    Vista Experience Score

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    PCMark05

    PCMark05 measures the overall system performance of a notebook, the 6910p came out with a respectable score, though nothing spectacular:

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    HP Pavilion dv2550se (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100) 3,351 PCMarks
    Toshiba Tecra M9 (2.20GHz Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA Quadro NVS 130M 128MB) 3,723 PCMarks
    HP Compaq 6910p (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 3,892 PCMarks
    HP Compaq 6510b (2.20GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, Intel X3100) 4,241 PCMarks
    HP Compaq 6910p (2.20GHz intel Core 2 Duo T7500, ATI X2300 128MB) 4,394 PCMarks
    HP Compaq 6515b (1.6GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-52, ATI x1270) 2,420 PCMarks
    Toshiba Satellite A135 (Core Duo T2250, Intel GMA 950) 3,027 PCMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16 GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 4,234 PCMarks
    Fujitsu LifeBook A6010 (1.66GHz Core 2 Duo, Intel GMA 950) 2,994 PCMarks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60, Nvidia Go 7800GTX) 5,597 PCMarks
    Sony Vaio SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 3,637 PCMarks
    Toshiba Tecra M6 (1.66GHz Intel T2300E, Intel GMA 950) 2,732 PCMarks
    Asus V6J (1.86GHz Core Duo T2400, Nvidia Go 7400) 3,646 PCMarks
    Sony VAIO FE590 (1.83GHz Core Duo) 3,427 PCMarks

     

    Super Pi comparison results:

    Super Pi forces the prcoessor to calculate Pi to 2 million digits of accuracy, below are some comparison results:

    Notebook Time
    HP Pavilion dv2550se Verve (Core 2 Duo T5250 @ 1.5GHz) 1m 24s
    Toshiba Qosmio G45 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 1m 01s
    Dell Inspiron 1720 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500) 0m 54s
    Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500) 0m 54s
    Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 0m 59s
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 0m 58s
    Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 1m 01s
    HP dv2500t (1.80GHz Intel 7100) 1m 09s
    Lenovo ThinkPad T61 (2.00GHz Core 2 Duo Intel T7300) 0m 59s
    Toshiba Satellite P205-S6287 (1.73 GHz Core 2 Duo Intel T5300) 1m 24s
    HP Compaq 6515b (1.6GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-52) 2m 05s

     


    3DMark06 comparison results:

    3DMark06 tests the graphics performance of a notebook, as you'd expect the dv2550se doesn't tear up the competition here as it wasn't designed as a 3D gaming notebook.

    Notebook 3DMark06 Score
    HP Pavilion dv2550se (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100) 558 3DMarks
    Toshiba Tecra M9 (2.20GHz Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA Quadro NVS 130M 128MB) 1,115 3DMarks
    Sony VAIO TZ (1.20GHz Core 2 Duo U7600, Intel GMA 950) 122 3DMarks
    LG R500 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS 256MB) 2,776 3DMarks
    HP dv2500t (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,055 3DMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,329 3DMarks
    Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 532 3DMarks
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,408 3DMarks
    Samsung Q70 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300 and nVidia 8400M G GPU) 1,069 3DMarks
    Asus F3sv-A1 (Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz, Nvidia 8600M GS 256MB) 2,344 3DMarks
    Alienware Area 51 m5550 (2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7600 256MB 2,183 3DMarks
    Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 1526 (1.66 Core Duo, nVidia 7600Go 256 MB) 2,144 3DMarks
    Samsung X60plus (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7200, ATI X1700 256MB) 1,831 3DMarks
    Asus A6J (1.83GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 128MB) 1,819 3DMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16 GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 827 3DMarks

     

    WPrime

    wPrime is a program that forces the processor to do recursive mathematical calculations, the advantage of this program is that it is multi-threaded and can use both processor cores at once, thereby giving more accurate benchmarking measurements than Super Pi.

    Notebook / CPU wPrime 32M time
    HP Pavilion dv2550se Verve (Core 2 Duo T5250 @ 1.5GHz) 54.678s
    Toshiba Tecra M9 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @2.2GHz) 37.299s
    HP Compaq 6910p (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz) 40.965s
    Sony VAIO TZ (Core 2 Duo U7600 @ 1.20GHz) 76.240s
    Zepto 6024W (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz) 42.385s
    Lenovo T61 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 37.705s
    Alienware M5750 (Core 2 Duo T7600 @ 2.33GHz) 38.327s
    Hewlett Packard DV6000z (Turion X2 TL-60 @ 2.0GHz) 38.720s
    Samsung Q70 (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2.0GHz) 42.218s
    Acer Travelmate 8204WLMi (Core Duo T2500 @ 2.0GHz) 42.947s
    Samsung X60plus (Core 2 Duo T7200 @ 2.0GHz) 44.922s
    Zepto Znote 6224W (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2.0GHz) 45.788s
    Samsung Q35 (Core 2 Duo T5600 @ 1.83GHz) 46.274s
    Samsung R20 (Core Duo T2250 @ 1.73GHz) 47.563s
    Dell Inspiron 2650 (Pentium 4 Mobile 1.6GHz) 231.714s

     

    HD Tune

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    Heat and Noise:

    Heat and noise are almost nonexistent in the dv2550se. Intel’s Core 2 Duo processors are very efficient and generate little heat. Additionally, having integrated graphics further reduces power consumption and heat generation. Most of the time the fan is off or operating below ambient noise levels. At high speeds, the fan does not “whine”, nor is it high pitched. When the load is removed the fan quickly returns to its low speed.

    The hard drive is the only part which seems to generate heat, warming up the left wrist pad – enough to cause a mild sweat. I’m not sure if the problem is because HP does not adequately remove heat from the area, or because they are installing HDDs that generate excessive heat. Either way, it is only mildly annoying.

    The DVD drive is loud when spinning at full speed. However, it is tolerable while watching a DVD movie.

    Keyboard and Touchpad: 

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    Both the keyboard and touchpad are quite comfortable and easy to use. The placement of the ‘delete’, ‘home’, and ‘end’ keys are much better than some notebooks I have used. There is no noticeable flex in the keyboard. The blue backlit heat sensitive media buttons at the top of the keyboard are both attractive and functional. However, accidently brushing against the QuickPlay buttons will launch the QuickPlay software.

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    Input and Output Ports:

    The dv2550 includes the following ports: a 5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader, 3 USB 2.0,  2 Headphone out, 1 microphone-in, VGA (15-pin), S-video, RJ-11 (modem), RJ -45 (LAN), expansion port, Firewire, ExpressCard reader.

    Considering HP is marketing their new Pavilions as Entertainment PC’s, I am a little disappointed that they do not include a digital video-out port (DVI or HDMI). With almost all TV’s you find on display in stores today being digital, and the Centrino Duo platform supporting HDMI, it would only make sense to include 1 digital out rather than 2 analogue signals.

    Wireless:

    The dv2550se has built in 802.11agb wireless. It can easily be turned on or off using the switch at the front of the notebook. Unfortunately HP has chosen not to include Bluetooth or 802.11n wireless. However, if you mainly use wireless for the internet, the included 802.11agb works very well – I have reached speeds of 10MB.

    The dv2550se has built in consumer IR. Included is a little remote that fits into the Expresscard slot. It is used to control Windows Media Center and QuickPlay.

    Battery:

    The 12 cell battery lasts a long time. I can carry it around all day without searching for a power source.

    I performed the following battery kill test to measure it’s performance:

    • Watch a DVD movie with volume on medium.
    • run wPrime stability test (1 thread).
    • run a virus scan.
    • Wireless turned on

    During this test, the CPU was operating at an average of 80%. It took 2hours and 3min before the computer shut itself down.

    Operating System and Software:

    The dv2550se comes pre-loaded with Windows Vista Home Premium and a variety of HP bloatware. HP has moved away from including recovery disks, and instead provides a recovery partition from which disks can be made. The Vista Anytime Upgrade disks are also no longer present (they were included in the older dv2000 series notebooks).

    After a clean install of Windows, I reduced the amount of RAM used at boot-up by 200Mb.

    The only non-bloatware software included by HP is the QuickPlay software. While useful, the interface is not as attractive as the similar Media Center software built into Windows. With Vista, it also loses the feature being able to play a dvd or media without booting into Windows (a Quickplay feature that works only under XP).

    Customer Support:

    I have not yet had to deal with HP customer support. The warrantee is for one year only. Spending $300 for additional coverage does not seem like a good investment for a $1200 product.

    Conclusion:

    The HP dv2550se Verve is aimed at people looking for a compact and stylish laptop for their everyday computing need. It is a great multimedia notebook with 160Gb of storage and 2Gb or RAM. While not intended for modern 3D gaming warfare, it will handle light gaming and offers excellent performance for value. However, for a special edition notebook, a faster processor would have been nice.

    One major complaint I have for HP is the use of the Verve Imprint Finish on their upcoming dv2600 series notebooks. They take the one feature that makes it a special edition and include it on an entire line of notebooks which offer no new functionality over the current dv2500 series.


    Pros

    • Looks great
    • Very little heat or noise
    • Long battery life
    • 2Gb or Ram
    • Excellent speakers

    Cons

    • No 802.11n wireless
    • No Bluetooth
    • No DVI/HDMI
    • The Verve Imprint finish can be found on dv2600 series notebooks
     
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  2. queshy

    queshy Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Nice review...but 2 h 3 min is long? I'm surprised because the battery looks so big.
     
  3. knightluo

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    Great review, I just wish that hp allow us to customize 2600, it looks so much BETTER!!!!
     
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    Good review! That Verve looks awesome! It doesn't have enough power for my tase, though. I don't like the way the battery sticks out, and for a battery that big, 2:30 isn't very good. I can understand if it were the standard capacity battery... but not the large capacity.

    It sounds like HP has improved the keyboards on their Pavilions, too. The last time I tried typing on one at an office supply store, they keyboard was too light and had far to much flex. Too bad the keycaps are still shaped in such a way that makes it too easy to hit the wrong key by accident, though.
     
  5. skywalker

    skywalker Business Notebook FTW!!

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    Oh that's shame about battery life though as it comes with integrated GPU and not the fastest Core2Duo and 14WXGA. But very very nice machine. I am very tempted with its chassis' design
     
  6. Rahul

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    I'm sorry, but that battery life is just not acceptable. There has to be something wrong, with the battery I assume?
     
  7. link1313

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    He ran a cpu, gpu, & hard drive task all at once with wifi on...anything above 2 hours is amazing for that.

    did you guys miss the: "The 12 cell battery lasts a long time. I can carry it around all day without searching for a power source."
     
  8. Andrew Baxter

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    It's a little short I'd say, but it was on an absolute torture test. In real usage you'd get 5 - 6 hours out of it I'd think (screen half brightness and doing web surfing + office work).

    Maybe Mr. ToxicBanana can clarify how much he gets under normal usage when he says "all day".

    I agree with everybody saying this design is just stellar, I love it.
     
  9. ToxicBanana

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    As Andrew mentioned, the battery test was a "torture test". The dvd drive was spinning while I watched a movie, the hard drive was working over time (60 degrees Celsius) running repeated virus scans, the cooling fan was at full speed, the cpu was stressed at 80% running wPrime (single thread) and the virus scan, the screen was at full brightness, WiFi on, and speakers operating.

    Real world battery life would be much greater - I'd estimate at least 6 hours. However, I don't want to through numbers around, so I will try to measure battery life under normal usage (this may take me a couple days).
     
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    I absolutely love this notebook. I would have already bought it if it came with a 6 cell battery. IMO, the 12 cell ruins the look completely, by sticking out the bottom. I have no problems with 8 and 9 cells that stick out the back, but elevating the notebook is a problem for me, which is why I'd never buy an HP extended cell battery.

    Aside from that though, the look is perfect, the configuration is perfect, the price is perfect, the exclusiveness of the design is perfect. I refuse to get a regular dv2500 because the style is just way too common right now, and the dv2600 is not on the HP store yet.
     
  11. Tainzhang

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    Oh my goodness, a 12 cell battery. The battery life must be stellar cuz i think a 9 cell is already plenty!
     
  12. John Ratsey

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    Thanks for this good review. If there was a 1440 x 900 version of the dv2500 series it would have been on my short list.

    That big battery looks to be an awkward lump which must also make it difficult to put the notebook into a bag.

    How much does this notebook weigh with the big battery? Is the PSU a reasonably small 60W unit?

    John
     
  13. gilo

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    Pretty .
     
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    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I've never seen the "Verve" model in person, but from looking at the pics it looks like a non-Imprint Finish painted version with silkscreen graphics on it (from the dull black plastic on the touchpad and keyboard surround). Has anyone else noticed this?
     
  15. skywalker

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    Oh I am sorry I dont pay attention. yeah if you run 'torture test' like that, the battery life is good considering playing DVD movie while on battery.
     
  16. shahbazi

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    will this be customizable?
     
  17. queshy

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    Ah, ok, I retract my statement.

    BTW I really love the design of the laptop. HP really picked it up over the years...
     
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    Yes, very pretty indeed. HP has really stepped up design wise.
     
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    Whoops, it was late at night and I'd come back after a full day at college, I missed that crucial detail. :eek:
     
  20. Teraforce

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    I originally though the same thing; but if you look very closely in some of the pics, there are clear reflections. It is a glossy finish on the body. Not sure about the touchpad, though I do hope at least that part of the notebook is matte. Glossy touchpads are awful. Your finger sticks to them whenever you try to use them.

    But now that I got the part where the battery life was a "torture test", I can safely say now that that's excellent battery life. I know that when my nw8440 was NEW (with an 8-cell, 69Wh battery), the battery would only last 2:30 with the screen set at maximum brightness, wireless on, and surfing the net/MS office. Of course, ATi's powerplay was enabled. I'm sure if I gave it a torture test with a new battery, it would last no more that 2 hours (Probably more like 1:30). Which reminds me, I need to buy a new battery pretty soon. I only get just over an hour now (vs. 2:30) on those same settings mentioned above. I might even invest in a secondary battery also.

    But overall, that dsv2550se looks very nice! Great review! Now, if they only made a dv6550se with that verve finish, an nVidia 8600M card, and a WSXGA+ screen, then I'd be all over it. I guess the closest thing is the white dv6500t special edition, but it only as an 8400M and WXGA resolution :( Oh well.
     
  21. mark500

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    How do we know it will be available as a CTO on HP's website? and do we know for sure this is indeed going to be the 2600? Just wondering if this is confirmed or assumed...
     
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    "The same can be said for the integrated Intel X3100 graphic included in this notebook. It is more than capable at handling HD video, the odd game, and Vista Aero. However, if you want to play modern 3D games in all their glory, look elsewhere."

    Did you test this out? This videocard review of the x3100(a more powerful version of it(the desktop version). Seems to indicate that it cannot play hd dvd videos or hd quality movies so good.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/09/24/integrated_graphics_for_gaming_or_htpc/page8.html

    You probaly get away use windows media player hd video but what about content from a hd dvd player.

    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/05/09/intel_santa_rosa_mobile_platform/2

    This article indicates there is no acceleration for h264 video or VC1.

    Also by mentioning the odd game, I think you are raising peoples hopes a bit too much. I think you should benchmark an older game to show what they are getting because I can't think of any game really recent(last 3-4 years) that would run on the x3100 ok even besides a really nondemanding RTS game.
     
  23. einhander

    einhander Notebook Deity

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    loooks like a piranha design.
     
  24. ToxicBanana

    ToxicBanana Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Worry not, it is constructed the same way as the other Imprint notebooks - no silkscreen painting. The process involves laser etching the design onto a foil which is inlaid into the mold. There are details here: http://www.nissha.co.jp/english/product/film/imd/explanation_01.html


    The touchpad is a semi-gloss which can be a little sticky and collects finger smudges. I had forgotten about this issue as I quickly became used to it after a month of use. I wish HP would include the dimpled touchpads they use on their tablets - I like those.

    HP is listing the dv2600 as CTO on their website - no idea when you can customize it though: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3559261&os=2093&


    I have had no troubles with HD content so far. However you raise a good point about the different compression algorithms. VC-1 is supported and 1080p VC-1 runs flawlessly (sample downloaded from here). However, H.264 is not supported. 720p H.264 runs smoothly with help from the CPU, but at only 1.5GHz it becomes a little choppy with 1080p H.264 (sample downloaded from here). Also note, the screen is only intended for 720p, so either algorithm can be used.

    Regarding games, I don't think I am raising hopes as I explicitly say that people looking to play modern 3D games should look elsewhere. I suggest anyone who wants to game with an X3100 do a forum search to learn about it's in game performance. I personally can run AOE3 on medium with a few high setting and reflective water. The only time the game struggles is when ships are battling, which is a CPU problem. When I find the time, I intend to load up Half Life 2 for testing.
     
  25. willstay

    willstay Notebook Enthusiast

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    The 12 cell protruding battry pack spoils the overall look. It needs to wear some kind of dress at the bottom to be decent looking :p
     
  26. bluecoyote

    bluecoyote Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have to agree with Will. The imprint on the laptop looks wonderful and well thought out, but the side profile... yeesh!

    If all you're getting with that extended battery is 2.5 hours under medium usage, I'd hate to think what the standard battery runs.
     
  27. ToxicBanana

    ToxicBanana Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Regarding battery life, I have achieved 5h 40min in real world conditions. This included wifi web surfing and torrent downloading, viewing 70min of video (off HDD), listening to music, using office applications, using AutoCAD and SolidWorks, running remote desktop, and even charging my mp3 player for 15min (USB).

    Torture test: 2h 3min
    Real world: 5h 40min

    Regarding the side profile, I was reluctant to buy this notebook because of the protruding battery - not overly attractive for an attractive computer. I reasoned that I could always throw a 6 cell battery in later. However, after using the notebook for a month, I actually prefer having the added height - it angles the keyboard for typing which is more comfortable, and improves airflow for better cooling. It's appearance no longer bothers me, and it is no more difficult to carry around in a backpack - I do sometimes dream of a slick Verve though.
     
  28. xander7

    xander7 Notebook Consultant

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    DV2620TX

    Intel® Core™2 Duo T7500

    • 2.20 GHz, 800MHz

    OS:
    Microsoft® Windows® Home premium



    Ram: 2G
    DDR2 MHz
    (2 x 1024MB)

    2 MB DDR2


    Hardrive: 160GB

    SATA

    5400 rpm

    DVD:
    Lightscribe Super Multi DVD (+/-R +/-RW)

    、Secure Digital 卡、MultiMedia 卡、Memory Stick、Memory Stick Pro


    Wifi:
    Intel® PRO/Wireless 4965ABG N802.11 a/b/g LAN

    I/O
    1 個 VGA 埠、3 USB 2.0 埠、IEEE 1394、1 個 RJ-11、1 個 RJ-45、1 、1 、AC 、S-video 、
    IEEE 1394


    1 Express54

    screen:
    14.1" WXGA BrightView


    1280 x 800

    Video card
    NVIDIA® GeForce® Go 8400M GS

    128 MB TurboCache

    TV tuner
    TV Tuner DVB-T


    HP QuickPlay media player DVD


    Sound card: 3D Sound Blaster Pro 16 bit

    Speaker: Altec Lansing®


    weight: 2.43 kg (5.33 lbs)

    PHP: 83,000.00 (singapore dollars converted to Peso)



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    HP DV2619TX

    Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology -Intel® CoreTM2 Duo Processor T7250# (2MB L2 Cache, 2.0GHz, 800MHz FSB) -Latest Intel® PM 965 chipset • Pre-installed Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium* (Traditional Chinese/ English) • 2GB DDR2 SDRAM (2 x 1024MB) /120GB SATA Hard Drive(5400rpm) • Latest NVIDIA® GeForce® 8400M graphics card (Up to 831MB total graphics memory) • Integrated HP Low Light VGA webcam • Integrated HDMI port & fingerprint reader • Integrated Bluetooth & Wireless 4965AGN • ExpressCard Remote

    PHP: 75,000.00 (singapore dollars converted to Peso)
     
  29. PajdaK

    PajdaK Newbie

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    Hi to all.

    I want to buy HP Pavilion DV9580US but I can`t find store in Europe. Any help? This model is only for US market.. but if I buy him I don`t know maby will not work in EU .. maby there will be some problems ??
    And I want some sugestions about the pc... maby u know some better model from this Model with better price. What do you think.. Toshiba is good brand for notebook as dell .. hp .. ?
     
  30. jl.rhapsody

    jl.rhapsody Notebook Enthusiast

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    Why is it taking so long to come out in the US...
     
  31. bojangles

    bojangles Newbie

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    Any update on U.S availablity of the DV 2600 CTO? Called HP and they don't even know about it ....
     
  32. esra4444

    esra4444 Newbie

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    Hi,

    I am a little bit confused about dv2600. A friend of mine ordered 2500t through hp.com and got the 2600 instead. I checked the service tag it said 2600, but the order confirmation email from hp says 2500t. If they are the same, it is bad that they only offer 64mb nvidia on it. Could anybody comment on this? Could they be the same thing?
     
  33. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The dv2600 is not a new model, its just the dv2500t. No difference. This is how it works - lets take the dv2000 as an example. It was offered in both retail outlets as fixed configurations and customized versions were sold online in the US. The retail models get a specific model number in order to differentiate between two specific configurations. The model numbers started out with dv2010, dv2018 and etc. Now since they need to refresh these retail models frequently with updated specifications. They quickly reach dv2099. The next version will need a different higher model number to show people the difference in specifications. So the dv2100 gets created and so on(dv2200, dv2300, dv2400...). Now the dv2500 is still essentially a dv2000 series notebook. But since it received substantial upgrades in terms of hardware, it was released as a different model when infact it was just another evolution of the dv2000 series. In the same way the dv2600 is an evolution of the dv2500 and in some ways the dv2000.