HP L2000 Special Edition Notebook Image Tour

HP announced the L2000 special edition notebook a couple of weeks ago. This notebook will carry the Lance Armstrong Foundation'sLiveStrong branding. The notebook will have the AMD 64 Turion processor (Armstrong is sponsored by AMD in his cycling endeavors) and have yellow highlights. This notebook will be available in mid-June.

HP L2000 Image Gallery (15 images)

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HP L2000 General Specs

• AMD Turion 64 processor mobile technology
• Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition or Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies
• 14.0" High-Definition widescreen with BrightView and high-resolution options
• ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M providing up to 128MB user-configurable UMA VRAM
• Available LightScribe-enabled DVD R/RW drive with double-layer support
• Integrated 54g 802.11b/g WLAN with 125HSM/SpeedBooster and BroadRange support
• 6-in-1 digital media card reader
• Altec Lansing stereo speakers with included earbuds
• 1.2" thin and 5.5 lbs

Based on these specs taken from the HP website it seems that the L2000 will be an AMD 64 version of the current dv1000 notebook.

For each special edition L2000 notebook sold that includes the LiveStrong insignia HP will donate $50 to the LAF organization.

 

Well, the image gallery is nice as usuall.
However, it looks like the Turion in the L2000 wears the black/graphite variant of the Compaq V1000's "attire" rather than the HP's brother's, doesn't it?

Best regards,
Przemek

Les absents ont toujours tort...

 

From one of the picture I can see that the high capacity battery will be supposed to stick out a bit. This is a little bit odd when putting on your lap, isn't it ? ... but overall, I like the design ... and the yellow theme of it ... can't wait for the review ...

... Forever is never ...

 

Since this (LiveStrong L2000) is a remodel of the HP (pentium-M) dv1000 with AMD Turion 64 inside, I wonder if it still can play music CD and/or DVD w/o Windows OS booted? (a small Linux-based program customized for playing optical media)

Definitely, we can see no more remote control embedded within/under the left palm as was found in the dv1000!

 

I'm pretty sure the remote control on the dv1000 fits into the PCMCIA slot when not in use. If you look at this image:
http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/4935.jpg
you'll see the remote icon on the slot-filler.

So, whether or not it plays DVDs w/o booting, I don't know, but it appears to have the remote.

-jb

ps - The images seem to be mockups. Notice there is no AMD or WinXP stickers. So, the actualy product may vary.

 

A quick compare between this pic:
http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/4930.jpg

and this one:
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2004/digitalexplaunch/images/v2000.jpg

Show that the HP L2000 is actually a revised Compaq v2000 case.

Unfortunately, the L2000 lacks the quickplay movie and music buttons above the F4 and F5 keys that the dv1000 has. So it appears no instant DVD playback.

 

Hi jb,

Thank you for the side-by-side pictures of the Compaq v2000 and the forthcoming HP L2000.

I was mislead to think that the HP LiveStrong L2000 is an AMD Turin64-based remodel of the HP dv1000, and apparently it's not.

So, choosing between the Compaq v2000 and the HP LiveStrong L2000 is purely based on the processors (Pentium M vs Turion 64) and the styles, but not the functionalities and pratical features light weight and sizes.

Since the L2000 is not yet available, can anyone compare the quality and the usefulness of the Compaq v2000 and the HP dv1000? Both are of similar dimensions (14" widescreen, etc) and weight!

 

I went and had a look at the local Best Buy yesterday. The v200 does not have a remote control. Of course, the guy who worte this review bought both the dv1000 and the v2000

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2077&review=compaq+v2000+hp+dv1000

From my viewing at the store, I can vouch that the dv1000's screen does solarize at less of an angle, but I don't think it would be that much of a problem.

Also, I talked to the guy at Circuit City and he had heard about the LiveStrong edition, but didn't knwo much. CC's in-house ordering system has v2000's with Turino already (which you cannot find online, even from Compaq's site), and we put in everything the LiveStrong would have and it came to about $1200. Granted, this was from a brick and mortor store, and every other HP/Compaq lappy they had was about $200 over what you would pay on the site.

I built a v2000 on Compaq's site with a Pentium M 1.6GHz, 512MB RAM, 60GB HDD, combo drive, wireless, and a 12 cell battery for $1,025. The Turino's supposed to be cheaper than the PM.

-jb

 

This is probably a very stupid question, but I had to ask...What's holding the notebook up:

http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/4931.jpg

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LG DVD Writer w/DL
54(g)Broadcom Integ.Wireless w/Speedbooster & Bluetooth
12cell battery

 

I believe that is the optional 12-cell battery.

Apparently the HP DV1000, which is a cousin to the Compaq v2000 upon which this model is based, has a battery that only fills two-thirds the length of the box. If this is the case on this L2000 as well, the 12-cell battery could be awkward.

 

Does this support dual channel? Cannot find any info on this or the v2000 supporting dual channel.

 

It appears that the L2000 is now available for order on HP's website.

Also, I noticed a new upcoming model listed at a retail store I work at. The unit is a Compaq v2311us, and it is basically a v2000 series Turion. The datasheet for this new model is available on HP's website. They also list a v2312us which is more or less the same unit with a DVD burner. The v2311us will be arriving in my store on this Saturday's shipment so it'll be interesting to play with it and see what the battery life is. Here's the specs:

MSRP: $899.99

Turion ML-28 (1.6ghz)
512mb of Memory (2x256mb)
14" WXGA Brightview screen
DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo Drive
60gb 4200rpm hard drive
ATI Radeon XPress 200M
6-in-1 digital media reader
54g WiFi with 125HSM/Speedbooster
Weighs 5.4 lbs.

It's interesting to note that an identically equipped version of the L2000 would run $925 (the $25 extra is for the Brightview screen). However, this is balanced by the fact that the L2000 has a 5400rpm drive instead of a 4200rpm. This means that the $50 donation HP is giving for every sale isn't in the form of a hidden markup (unless you count the L2000's lack of rebates).

Quite a pretty unit the L2000 is, and I'm tempted to order one. However, if there were a dv1000 Turion with the Quickplay feature I'd order one in a cold minute. I'm itching to use an hpshopping.com $25 coupon code I found too (SV2055), in addition to the student discount.

 

Well, I ordered an HP L2000 today. Here is what I ordered:

Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home

Processor AMD Turion 64 ML-37 (2.0GHz/1MB L2 Cache)
**upgrade from ML-28 (1.6GHz/512KB L2 Cache), $125

Display 14.0 WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x768)
**upgrade from non-brightview, $25

Graphics Card ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/productivity ports

Memory 512MB DDR SDRAM (1x512MB)
**upgrade from 2 dimms, well worth the extra $25

Hard Drive 60 GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive

Primary CD/DVD Drive DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive

Networking 54g(TM) Integ. Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN & Bluetooth
**upgrade from non bluetooh w/ 125HSM/SpeedBooster, n will replace b/g hopefully soon, so might as well have bluetooth integrated, a mere $19

Primary Battery 12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
**upgrade from 6 cell, adds weight and size (12 cell shown in OPs pictures), $25

SUBTOTAL: $1118.00
STUDENT DISCOUNT 6%: -$67.08
COUPON SV2055: -$25.00
TAX IN FLORIDA: $0.00
SHIPPING: $0.00
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TOTAL: $1025.92

Not too bad, this will replace my king sized R4000Z with an AMD Athlon 64 3800+. I hope I'm not sacrificing too much performance. I ordered by phone to receive the student discount (simply ask). Quick and easy process, I recommend ordering over the phone, as they don't ask for any verification of being a student, other than a school email address (which is used to send order information). I'm wondering if they would accept any email address as the school email address, but it's probably a gamble. Well, if a better deal comes around, I have 30 days to ship it back. It better run nice, specifically with x64........

 

Well, what I meant was that if I kept my internal card with bluetooth, and got a PCMIA 802.11n adapter, I'll still have bluetooth. I'm not clear on the upgradeability of laptop components, specifically wireless cards. Can the be upgraded of they are internal? Also, the 2nd slot on many HP and compaqs (not the pcmia), what is that? What can it be used for?

 

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**upgrade from non bluetooh w/ 125HSM/SpeedBooster, n will replace b/g hopefully soon, so might as well have bluetooth integrated, a mere $19
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I hate to tell you this, but the Bluetooth adapter you ordered is part of the B/G WiFi card. If you replace it with an 802.11N card in the future, your Bluetooth also goes buh-bye (unless you get another card that has both N and Bluetooth). ^^;;;

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by impeachme2

 

The second slot is for the next generation pcmcia known as the card54 or expresscard slot. None are made in this blazing fast format yet, but this is YET another great feature to ensure your new system is future-proof.

Concerning the integrated wireless, my best guess is that it's replaceable, too...But, I'm sure someone more knowledgable, like Miner or Brianstretch, will chime in shortly with a solid confirmation.

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1,024MB DDR SDRAM (2x512-PC2700)
60GB-5400RPM HardDrive
LG DVD Writer w/DL
54(g)Broadcom Integ.Wireless w/Speedbooster & Bluetooth
12cell battery

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by AMDemon

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by XStylus

 

More than likely you will not be able to upgrade the internal wireless card to wireless-n since it would probably require more antennas, I had an old dell with an internal wireless b and it would not use an internal wireless g card and those are much more similar to each other than g and n will be.
impeachme2 when do you think you will end up getting the computer? I am curious if the 12 cell batter will be a lot bigger than the standard one.

 

Estimated ship date is July 7, with 5-7 day shipping. You might be actually right with that theory, since MIMO requires an additional antenna. Good call. The 12 cell battery is actually pictured in the image gallery of the original post, but I will take pics once I get it.

 

I was surprised and disappointed to see HP is only offering the 35 Watt "ML" version of the Turion and is not offering the 25 Watt "MT" version. 35 Watts is the same power as the mobile Athlon 64 and you can probably only expect about 60% of the battery life of a Centrino notebook. I wonder if AMD is having problems supplying the "MT" version because it makes no sense to me why HP wouldn't offer it?

The Averatec 4100 due out in July is supposed to have the "MT":

http://www.retailaccess.com/averatec/pdf/4100%20Sell%20Sheet.pdf

I was also disappointed in the shared graphics on the L2000, but I think the Averatec will have shared graphics as well.

 

Where did you find a 6% off HP student discount? I am thinking about ordering an L2000, as well.

 

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35 Watts is the same power as the mobile Athlon 64 and you can probably only expect about 60% of the battery life of a Centrino notebook.
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If the Turion and the Mobile Athlon 64 use the same power, then why not go Athlon 64 instead? Don't they have higher clock frequencies?

 

Call HpShopping.com....1-866-433-2018 (weekdays 7 a.m. - 2 a.m., weekends 10 a.m. - 7 a.m. EST)

Mention that u require the APP discount & voila!...All they'll need from u is (at the very most) a student id#, location/name of school attending, your name.

 

I'd love to know the battery life on it.

 

The Turion is basically the same as a Mobile Athlon 64 with a few improvements. The main improvement is the L2 cache size goes up from 512kb to 1Meg (as in the desktop Athlon 64). The clock speed of the Turion is the same as the Mobile Athlon 64, but it should run applications faster due to the larger cache. Second, they added the lower power 25 Watt "MT" version, which for some reason HP is not offering. The MT is the same chip as the ML, but is screened to verify it will run to spec at a lower voltage, and thus consume less power. One more small improvement, is that the Turion added some more 3D graphics commands.

So far as battery life goes, the Centrino is 27 Watts max, but often gives 4 hours of battery life in notebooks, depending on the power of the battery used. The Averatec Turion with the 25 Watt MT is said to give 2.5 hours of life. So I'm guessing the HP L2000 with the ML chip will have even less battery life with the standard 6 cell battery. If battery life is important to you, then get the optional 12 cell battery, but you pay a price, due to it extending about 1/2" out the bottom of the case.

Anyway, we can't be certain about battery life until we see some actual tests for the L2000 since there are many other factors involved.

 

I'm just wondering if you guys tell me whether I can buy this laptop as I'm a student in a canadian university.
I would appreciate your reply.

 

I dont think so..unless HP canada offers such discounts...I dont think you can get discounts from the US website for a Canadian university.

 

I emailed HP. 2 hours with the 6 cell and 4 with the 12 cell.

 

HP says that the RAM they supply is DDR333; does the L2000 support DDR400? If so, will replacing/upgrading the RAM void the warranty (are both slots on the back or is one inside)?

 

Here: I emailed HP about the batteries:

 

what does (min H)/2.17" (max H) mean then... that demension or number is higher than on the 6 cell?
and for the ram question does the Turion have the onboard Memory controller?

 

I suppose the min/max Height means that the battery is sloped.. sorta like the following diagram...

Anyways, I thought most, if not all, AMD processors came with an onboard memory controller. Turion has one, at least:

 

I think the 12 cell sticks out, but not at the back of the laptop but raises the height of the laptop. I suppose they use the same batter as the dv1000 in which case the 12 cell protrudes out(down) the laptop.

 

Just a quick notice: on HP Shopping's product specs page for L2000, it doesn't list the 15-pin VGA port on the left side; nor does it list it in the included features popup on the configuration page. Is the VGA port still there? Or did HP decide to take it out? (I first heard about the VGA port from www.amdlivestrong.com ).

 

As shown in the first photo, the L2000 is slightly slanted with even the standard 6 cell battery. The second photo shows it with the 12 cell battery. It sticks out about 0.6" further and weighs about 0.6 lbs more, bringing the total weight of the notebook to close to 6 lbs.

And the third photo shows the VGA port.

 

Does anyone have a picture of the BOTTOM of the L2000? j/w

 

I've thought the L2000 was a steal from the beging,
but the battery thing is starting to worry me and is
pushing me toward the dv1000.

For some reason, I like to measure battery life by the
length of time a notebook will play a DVD before shutting
off. That's probably because that will be the most powerhungry
thing that I will do while I am away from a powersource.

So, those of you that have an L2000 on the way...
please be ever so nice and post some battery lives.

Oh and, does anyone know what the difference in available power
is between the 6-cell and the 12-cell battery. Logic would say
1:1, so the 12 would last twice as long as the 6. It's just in my
experience that ratio looks closer to 1.2:1

 

Once HP ships the L2000 to me, I will post battery life results.

Other people will likely get theirs before mine, so they could post before then. I will have both the 6 cell and 12 cell batteries that I will test.

 

As far as battery life, the DV1000 with Intel is going to have better battery life. But for specific tasks, (ex. viewing a DVD, copying data, number crunching), it will vary.

The optical spindle (DVD drive) takes a lot of battery; it will be interesting to compare times of viewing a movie from a DVD drive vs. an ISO image from the hard drive. Again, another test I will do.

 

Hi all,
I'm typing this message on the new HP L2000 Livestrong special edition notebook. It just arrived at a local CompUSA.

The picture below accurately portraits the height of the 12-cell extended battery. I compared the weight of the L2000 to a HP DV1000 notebook with the 6-cell battery installed and they felt identical. I found the raised keyboard made it easier to type as well.

The Livestrong messaging was tastefully placed and does not distract.

 

Please post more of your first-hand experience with the L2000.

 

I stopped in CUSA but the manager didn't have any to show yet (compusa.com says they have them in stock). But he added they will have a big endcap display, and the guy from AMD will be in the store Sunday to set it up.
I just want to see it in person so I can tell if the yellow crap comes off.

 

Battery life sure sounds disappointing with the Turion.
How is the performance though compared to a Pentium M?

 

This looks like it is a theme with HP. They don't
have the Mobile Pentiums available, and they
don't have the low-watt Turion available. This
is even more disheartening when you consider
the low-watt Turion runns 2 watts lower, however
that will manifest, and it is only $30 more than
the 35 watt chip. HP is trying to offer greater
choice, but they still don't make available
every part that is on the market.

 

I was wondering if u buy the L2000 from CompUSA, will the notebook come with both 6 and 12 cell battery or just 12-cell cuz the thing looks better with 6-cell and i would be happy if it comes with both 6 and 12 cell.

 

They have the L2000 in stock now at CompUSA.

It's pretty much fully loaded with 1GB RAM and a 100GB hard drive. The after rebate price of $1250 is about $43 cheaper than HP's online price, but HP doesn't charge sales tax for most states and shipping is free, so it's still cheaper to buy from HP, if you don't mind waiting a couple of weeks.

Also, the HP RAM is overpriced, and the 100GB hard drive is just 4200RPM. I'd rather have a 5400RPM 80 GB drive. So that's another reason to buy from HP and get your extra RAM from newegg.com (maybe even get a 100GB, 5400RPM drive from newegg).

I took a look at the notebook and it's nice. The yellow lettering I could do without, but it's not too obnoxious and it looks like it wont rub off. The screen is nice and bright. It does get warm right under the touch pad, but not hot.

It comes with just the 12 cell battery, and not a 6 cell. And I agree that I wish they would offer the MT versions of the Turion. That would probably add another 1/2 hour of battery life with a 6 celll battery. My guess is the MT is not yet being shipped by AMD, because I don't see any notebooks with it out there yet. Averatec is supposed to ship one this month, so I'm guessing HP will offer the MT versions in a month or so.

The ML Turino is 35 Watts, the MT 25 Watts, and the Centrino Sonoma 27 Watts, so the MT should get similar battery life. The older 400MHZ FSB Centrinos were I think 21 Watts.

So far as speed goes, I've seen several comparisions and the Centrino is most always faster than the Turion at the same clock speed (at least the 533FSB Sonoma version Centrino). But the Turion is close, and obviously it can run 64 bit applications. Does anyone know if there is any 64 bit software out there, and is Windows XP 64 bit available?

 

Yet another reason not to go thru CompUSA is that you're able to get add'l discounts through HpShopping like APP or EPP, there's a couple of insignificant coupon codes floating around....AND, they'll refund any price changes for upto 30 days following delivery of your notebook.

 

:hp: For gaming performance, dv1000 or L2000