HP EliteBook 8530w Review

by Jerry Jackson

The HP EliteBook 8530w is the latest 15.4" workstation featuring the latest Intel processors and Nvidia Quadro FX 770M wrapped inside an impressively durable shell. The Elitebook 8530w and 8530p (non-workstation version) replace the 8510w and 8510p, respectively. Is it time for an upgrade at your office? Take a look and see what we have to say about this powerful workhorse!

The 8530w starts out at $1,499 but more powerful configurations top out at $3,549.

Our pre-production review unit as configured:

• Intel Core 2 Duo T9400 Processor (2.53GHz, 6MB L2 cache, 1066MHz FSB)
• Microsoft Genuine Windows Vista Business
• 15.4-inch WUXGA+ anti-glare (1920 x 1200)
• 512MB NVIDIA Quadro FX 770M Workstation GPU
• 4GB DDR2 800MHz RAM (2 x 2GB Configuration)
• 160GB 7200RPM Toshiba 2.5" HDD
• Blu-Ray and DVD+/-RW Optical Drive
• WiFi, Ethernet, Modem, and Bluetooth Connectivity
• 8-Cell 73WHr Battery
• 3-Year on-site Warranty
• Dimensions: 1.1" x 14.0" x 10.4"
• Weight: 6.5lbs without power adapter, 8lbs with power adapter

The notebook that was provided to us is a pre-production unit, and this specific configuration for our notebook did not fit any of the preconfigured models available online, but a similar configuration with 2GB of 800MHz DDR2 RAM and a 250GB hard drive would cost $2,549 if ordered via the HP website.

Build and Design

The HP EliteBook 8530w is a business workstation notebook, and as such consumers and corporations expect the highest quality of materials and the best features and designs for their money. Does HP deliver? Oh yeah.

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The main body of the laptop is covered in the new "HP DuraCase" and "HP DuraFinish" which is essentially a hard plastic and strong magnesium alloy inner shell much like its predecessor strengthened by a brushed aluminum outer shell that is so scratch resistant you can't even scratch it with steel wool. The base of the laptop feels very strong and would definitely survive many bumps and bruises that other laptops might not. There is no flex in the keyboard, except for a very minor amount of flex around the enter key directly above the optical drive. The underside of the notebook is also similarly rigid and strong with the exception of the area immediately underneath the notebook's optical drive. Although we don't recommend it, you can stand on this notebook and you'll barely notice any flex beneath your feet.

The outer shell of the screen casing is made of metal, but the inner screen bezel is plastic. You'll also find a convenient keyboard light located at the top of the screen bezel. Just push the button on the top of the screen and a small LED pops out shining a light on your keyboard. This is perfect for typing while traveling in a car or airplane without turning on an overhead light to bother people sitting next to you. The laptop screen housing is also extremely solid and can barely be twisted even when significant force is applied.

On that note, I accidentally discovered how durable the "DuraCase" and "DuraFinish" are during our testing. I was checking something on the bottom of the notebook with the screen open and when I flipped the EliteBook 8530w over it slipped out of my hands and the back of the screen hit my desk with a solid "WACK!" Just so you understand how hard this notebook hit the desk, the impact was loud enough to make all my coworkers stop what they were doing and look to see if I was okay. The back of the LCD lid hit the desk with enough force that if the lid had been made of cheap plastic it would have snapped in half like a dead twig.

The 8530w survived without a scratch and everything continued to work perfectly.

When HP says that this mobile workstation "has been tested and meets the military standard
MIL-STD 810F tests" they mean this notebook is built to last. The HP engineers responsible for the 8530w certainly impressed the team here at NotebookReview.com.

Additionally, the 8530w also features hard drive shock protection in the form of the new HP 3D DriveGuard which will help to protect your hard drive in the event the laptop gets dropped or violently bumped ... or smacks into a desk because an editor wasn't paying enough attention.

Of course, with all this rugged durability built into the deisgn you have to expect a trade off, and the trade off in this case is weight. If you didn't already notice, the EliteBook 8530w tips the scales at six and a half pounds! If you add the power adapter your travel weight then becomes a full eight pounds. While this isn't horrible for a desktop replacement, if you plan to travel with the 8530w you need to be prepared for how massive this mobile workstation really is. Start lifting weights at the gym after you order your EliteBook to prepare yourself.

Finally, in the same way that the gray and black exterior and smooth design suits a professional environment, so do the internals. The EliteBook 8530w uses two simple plastic covers on the bottom of the notebook (each held in place with two Phillips head screws) so that the user or your IT department can easily access the hard drive, wireless cards or RAM for fast upgrades. The rest of the notebook interior is protected by Torx screws which help deter unqualified employees from messing around inside their work-issued notebook. The bottom of the notebook also features a dedicated docking station port, external battery port, and a convenient place to store your business card.

Screen and Speakers

The 8530w comes equipped with a 15.4" anti-glare widescreen with the highest resolution possible for a screen of this size. At 1920 x 1200 pixels, this high-definition display is capable of displaying the finest details in workstation applications like Maya, CAD, 3dsMax, and more. Or course, you can also enjoy this extra resolution for 1080p movies when you use the BluRay optical drive.

When viewing the screen from straight ahead, colors are rich and the contrast is excellent. High-definition movies (compliments of the BluRay drive) are absolutely stunning. Horizontal viewing angles are almost as impressive, and the vertical viewing angle from above is likewise impressive. The only time the screen starts to disappoint is when you view it from below ... but the overwhelming majority of users will never view the screen in this way.

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HP generally impresses our editorial staff with the quality of the speakers used in their notebooks, and the speakers in the 8530w were no exception. The built-in speakers are above average with a good range of highs. middles, and acceptable lows and do not sound tinny at all. The highest volume settings are more than loud enough to fill an office with sound for a presentation, but are still clear and not distorted. The only negative about the speakers is their location on the front edge of the notebook.

Since the speakers are located on the front edge of the notebook the sound isn't being directed up and toward the user when the EliteBook is used as a laptop. In fact, our staff usually refers to laptop speakers with this type of placement as "crotch speakers" because the speakers are directing sound to your waist rather than your ears. If you're using the 8530w on your desk this isn't a problem, but if you're a road warrior constantly working from your lap then you might be annoyed by the speaker placement.

The headphone jack on the 8530w works well with the three different brands of earphones I used during the test. No static or other noise was noticed through the jack besides imperfections in the audio source itself.

Performance and Benchmarks

Our pre-production EliteBook 8530w came with the Intel T9400 processor, clocking in at 2.53GHz, and jammed packed with 6MB of cache. For graphics, HP included an Nvidia Quadro 770M series video card with 512MB of GDDR3 memory. A fast 160GB 7200 RPM hard drive was also included, which helped applications load without much lag. This workstation consistently exceeded our expectations, thanks in large part to the workstation-class GPU. Serious users will find this machine packs plenty of power for even the most demanding tasks, and "normal" users who are only concerned with working in Microsoft Office and encoding the occassional video for work will have more power than they know what to do with it.

In a day and age when more and more notebooks are offering hybrid graphics (a combination of both integrated and dedicated graphics that allow you to reduce power consumption when you don't need extreme graphics performance) we would have liked to see a hybrid graphics solution inside the Elitebook 8530w. As it stands, this isn't a deal killer because most people interested in this notebook are concerned about performance ... not getting every possible minute of battery life.

With that said, let's jump into the performance benchmarks.

wPrime is a program that forces the processor to do recursive mathematical calculations, the advantage of this program is that it is multi-threaded and can use both processor cores at once, thereby giving more accurate benchmarking measurements than Super Pi.

Notebook / CPU	wPrime 32M time
HP EliteBook 8530w (Intel Core 2 Duo T9400 @ 2.53GHz)	30.919s
Lenovo T400 (Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 @ 2.8GHz)	27.410s
Lenovo T500 (Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 @ 2.8GHz)	27.471s
Lenovo T61 (Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2.0GHz)	42.025s
Dell Vostro 1500 (Intel Core 2 Duo T5470 @ 1.6GHz)	53.827s
HP Pavilion dv6500z (AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60 @ 2.0GHz)	40.759s
Systemax Assault Ruggedized (Core 2 Duo T7200 @2.0GHz)	41.982s
Toshiba Tecra M9 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @2.2GHz)	37.299s
HP Compaq 6910p (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz)	40.965s
Sony VAIO TZ (Core 2 Duo U7600 @ 1.20GHz)	76.240s
Zepto 6024W (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz)	42.385s
Lenovo T61 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz)	37.705s
Alienware M5750 (Core 2 Duo T7600 @ 2.33GHz)	38.327s
Hewlett Packard DV6000z (Turion X2 TL-60 @ 2.0GHz)	38.720s

PCMark05 comparison results:

Notebook	PCMark05 Score
HP EliteBook 8530w (2.53GHz Intel T9400, Nvidia Quadro FX 770M 512MB)	6,287 PCMarks
Lenovo T400 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, ATI Radeon 3470 256MB GDDR3)	6,589 PCMarks
Lenovo T400 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, Intel X4500)	N/A
Lenovo T500 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, ATI Radeon 3650 256MB GDDR3)	7,050 PCMarks
Lenovo T500 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, Intel X4500)	5,689 PCMarks
Lenovo T61 Standard Screen (2.0GHz Intel T7300, NVIDIA NVS 140M 256MB)	4,839 PCMarks
Dell Vostro 1500 (1.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5470, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS)	3,585 PCMarks
Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS)	4,925 PCMarks
Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100)	3,377 PCMarks
Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS)	4,591 PCMarks
Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100)	4,153 PCMarks
Lenovo 3000 V200 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100)	3,987 PCMarks
Lenovo T60 Widescreen (2.0GHz Intel T7200, ATI X1400 128MB)	4,189 PCMarks
HP dv6000t (2.16GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400)	4,234 PCMarks
Sony VAIO SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400)	3,637 PCMarks

3DMark06 comparison results:

Notebook	3DMark06 Score
HP EliteBook 8530w (2.53GHz Intel T9400, Nvidia Quadro FX 770M 512MB)	5,230 3DMarks
Lenovo T400 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, ATI Radeon 3470 256MB GDDR3)	2,575 3DMarks
Lenovo T400 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, Intel X4500)	809 3DMarks
Lenovo T500 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, ATI Radeon 3650 256MB GDDR3)	4,371 3DMarks
Lenovo T500 (2.80GHz Intel T9600, Intel X4500)	809 3DMarks
Lenovo T61 Standard Screen (2.0GHz Intel T7300, NVIDIA NVS 140M 256MB)	1,441 3DMarks
Dell Vostro 1500 (1.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5470, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS)	1,269 3DMarks
Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB)	1,329 3DMarks
Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100)	532 3DMarks
Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB)	1,408 3DMarks
Samsung Q70 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300 and nVidia 8400M G GPU)	1,069 3DMarks
Asus F3sv-A1 (Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz, Nvidia 8600M GS 256MB)	2,344 3DMarks
Alienware Area 51 m5550 (2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7600 256MB	2,183 3DMarks
Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 1526 (1.66 Core Duo, nVidia 7600Go 256 MB)	2,144 3DMarks
Samsung X60plus (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7200, ATI X1700 256MB)	1,831 3DMarks
Asus A6J (1.83GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 128MB)	1,819 3DMarks
HP dv6000t (2.16 GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400)	827 3DMarks
Sony VAIO SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400)	794 3DMarks

As an added bonus, we also tested the EliteBook 8530w with the new PCMark Vantage benchmark, and notebook returned a score of 3,944.

HDTune storage drive performance test:

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Keyboard and Touchpad

The full-size keyboard on the 8530w is nice and large and features the new "HP DuraKeys" which is a highly durable textured finish applied to each key have a nice matte appearance and prevents the "shine" that appears on old keyboards after the buildup of dirt and oils from your fingertips.

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The layout of the keyboard is just slightly different than what you might find on the HP consumer notebooks. The individual key presses are quiet without loud clicking sounds as you type. Keys are flatter and have a little less space in between them. The key spacing had to make room for the addition of the pointstick and you might also notice the longer backspace, backslash, enter, and shift keys which also force a minor relocation of the arrow keys. This takes a little bit to get used to, but overall the keyboard layout is extremely nice for a 15-inch laptop.

Above the keyboard also rests a series of touch-sensitive media buttons similar to what you find on HP consumer notebooks. There is an Info, WiFi Toggle, Presentation Mode, and Mute touch buttons on this glossy strip. Additionally, next to the Mute button is a volume control slider that enables the user to raise and lower the volume by sliding their finger across that area.

The touchpad also features the DuraFinish so that oils from your fingertip don't build up on the surface and make the touchpad look weathered after just a few months. The Synaptics touchpad is very responsive to my touch, and the three rubber mouse buttons are quiet and about the right size. There is also a secondary set of mouse buttons above the touchpad to work with the pointstick that comes with all 8530w's. The pointstick is amazingly accurate and comfortable to use.

The only negative we experienced with the touchpad interface on our pre-production unit is that the rubber touchpad buttons didn't always register a click when you press them. This is because the rubber surface of each button "bends" around the actual button that triggers the click. If you don't press just the right spot at the exact center of each button then the button won't register that you pressed it. The secondary buttons located above the touchpad (the ones used for the pointstick) didn't have this problem, so we're not sure if it's a design issue or just a problem with this particular pre-production unit.

We would have also liked to see a dedicated touchpad disable button (like the ones HP uses on their consumer notebooks) so that you can disable the touchpad if you're using the pointstick or an external mouse.

Ports and Features

The 8530w features a good number of ports on all sides, so let us take a brief tour ...

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Here we see the stwo USB ports, GigE Ethernet, HDMI-out, eSATA port, Firewire 400, an ExpressCard/54 slot, smart card slot, and a multi-card reaader.

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Audio-out jack, microphone/line-in jack, two USB ports, BluRay optical drive, modem port and security lock slot.

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The battery, AC power jack, and the VGA out jack.

Front side:

There are no ports on the front, just indicator lights and the speakers.

Bottom side:

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Also, on the underside there is a docking connector and the second battery port. Both RAM slots are accessible from the bottom under the RAM access cover.

The 8530w features an 802.11 a/b/g/draft-n WiFi card and Bluetooth 2.0, both of which always worked without any dropped signals.

Heat and Noise

During normal use (browsing the web or working on a text document) the EliteBook 8530w remained nice and quiet. However, after watching some streaming video online and after stressing the graphics the cooling fan inside the laptop gets quite loud. When doing tasks that stress the processor and graphics card, the laptop's fan works hard to keep this laptop cool. This is something of a mixed blessing in that while noisy, it helps to lower the internal temperatures and helps extend the life of your notebook components.

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Finally, we recorded the following external temperatures using an IR thermometer after running two consecutive PCMark05 benchmarks. This should serve as an indicator of how hot the notebook will get after about 30 minutes of serious use. All temperatures are listed in degrees Fahrenheit. While the 8530w isn't the coldest notebook we've reviewed, it does stay amazing cool considering the powerful processor and graphics.

Battery

The battery life is basically unchanged from the last refresh in which HP claims that the laptop will achieve up to 4 hours of life when unplugged. During our timed tests, the laptop was set up for the &lsquo;High Performance' profile, screen brightness at about 60%, WiFi on, and accessing the hard drive while listening to music files and editing documents in Microsoft Office. The laptop shut down after exactly 3 hours and 38 minutes with 3% of the battery left, which is reasonable for a laptop with so much power running in "high performance" mode. Battery life can also be extended via using the "power saver" power profile in Vista, or with a secondary 8-Cell or 12-Cell battery which can more than double the battery life according to HP.

Conclusion

The HP EliteBook 8530w is one of the most impressive workstation-class 15.4" notebooks we've seen. Whether you're a small business owner looking for a durable notebook with plenty of performance or a large business looking to outfit a large staff of creative professionals with mobile workstations, the EliteBook 8530w makes a smart choice. However, there's no such thing as a perfect notebook and our pre-production unit of the 8530w was not without its flaws.

While there are a few things we can criticize about the 8530w, it's hard to be too critical of a pre-production unit because there is always a "possibility" that a minor issue (such as touchpad buttons or cooling fan volume) could be resolved with the final versions that ship to customers. Still, based on the review unit we have on hand we feel our relatively minor criticism is warranted.

Bottom line, there are many reasons why professionals need to buy the HP EliteBook 8530w and very few reasons not to.

Pros

• One of the most full-featured and rugged 15.4" workstation notebooks.
• Extreme graphics power, top notch overall horsepower.
• High-resolution screen with good viewing angles and excellent brightness.
• Available BluRay drive.
• Extended battery life available via a second battery port.
• Attractive and sleek design.

Cons

• Pricey because of the workstation GPU and rugged build quality.
• Heavy ... very heavy with the power adapter.
• Rubber touchpad buttons don't always register a click when you press them.
• Less than ideal location for speakers.
• Fan can run loud and push out a lot of hot air.

 

WoW,very nice review!

BTW,when will you review 8730w?

 

Another excellent HP business notebook. These are indeed solid machines that people should seriously consider. Scratch-proof, durable, excellent performance, great ergonomics, etc. I guess the high price is justified if it translates into the usual HP build quality seen in its business lineup.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=H5cKuO8ojAU

 

Nice video! ^^

I never really gave HP Business lineup notebooks a look. But I sure will now. What a nice notebook!

 

Excellent review!

Glad to hear that the build quality has improved significantly over the previous generation, despite weighing a half-pound more than the predecessor. Just curious, how does the keyboard flex compare to the new ThinkPads?

I noticed that all the lights on the touchstrip are on. Do they stay permanently lit when the machine is on now? If so, is there a way to disable them?

Also, I found a typo. This sentence doesn't make any sense:

I'm not sure what you meant by that.

My only real complaint about this notebook (and it's really minor) is that the design, while looking very nice overall, seems just a bit too 'flashy' for a business notebook. That said, it looks like HP really has a ThinkPad T500 killer here!

 

I disagree.

As strong as it is in many of its categories, I have learned through my experiences with numerous laptops that cooling is a major factor to consider; a hot laptop is a totally useless laptop. As you know, overheating computers are prone to being unreliable, poor performers, noisy, and yielding poor battery life. These are major drawbacks, especially to business people (case in point, this review)

Based on all the HP laptops I've seen (and the one I've owned, which was part of HP's broad BIOS update), HP needs to design more robust cooling systems.

Also, I'd like to comment that external temperatures aren't the best way to determine whether a given laptop is cool or not; external temps can differ vastly from the internal temps that matter most.

 

Hey Jerry, great review! Could you perhaps measure the thickness at the front and back of the laptop? It's obviously thicker in the back, but I'm also a little skeptical of HP's 1.1" claim.

 

Thanks for the review Jerry. I have got a few questions and points:

- What brand is the WUXGA screen?

- As mentioned above, does the buttons remain lit? My 8510p's buttons are only on when lets say, wifi is enabled or when the volume is muted.

- The HP 3D drive guard isn't a new feature of this generation's HP business notebooks.

- Can we have a picture of the ''overhead keyboard lamp'' on in the dark please?


A few of my points...

- I like the increased and better placement of vents.

- Like the new light grey colour scheme of the outer shell.

- Battery life seems good even with all these powerful components.

- Right side keyboard flex has been with the 8xxx notebooks for a few generations now. (just a minor flaw, nothing annoying)

- I don't like the interior design. It almost seems too plain, or as if they tried too hard to make it plain.

- Keyboard looks unchanged from previous generation.

- The Nividia GPU seems to be the source of the heat problem, as was the 9600GT for the dv5t. I'd love to see teh temperature of a FireGL V5700, yes it is less powerful but it also runs alot cooler.

- eSATA!


Thats all I have got for now!
Johnny T


@Bog...my 8510p's cooling system is certainly excellent. And I am sure other 8510p users would agree with me.

 

I agree with you about thermal management and measuring temperatures, and, to a certain extent, the point about HP not designing robust cooling systems (which is definitely an issue with the Pavilions). After all, build quality is only one aspect on how reliable a notebook is going to be, and external temps will never be as reliable as the internal temps.

That said, I've yet to have an overheating issue with my nw8440 (which is TWO generations before this 8530w!). Although the CPU and GPU are right next to each other, and there's only one fan that has to cool both of them, the machine runs perfectly cool under normal use. When benchmarking/gaming, the machine does get warmer and the fan gets louder, but I've never seem my CPU go about 80C.

I can only imagine that this has gotten better on this new 8530w.

 

I meant, "essentially a hard plastic and strong magnesium alloy inner shell"

In other words, the notebook uses plastics and magnesium alloy (mostly magnesium alloy) for the main/inner chassis and also covers the chassis in multiple areas with the brushed aluminum.

I fixed the error. Sorry for the typo ... and thanks for the catch.

 

Well lets hope so. My 8510p's CPU tops out at 65-70C on the rare occasion.

 

You have probably never used an HP Business class notebook. All the reliability issues only occur in HP's Pavillion line up, including the broad BIOS update.

HP's business lineup is designed by a completely different team of engineers, managed by different product teams, manufactured on different production lines (RCTO units are assembled by HP's own facility) and supported by a different division. Basically, they are very distinct products and HP makes this distinction very explicit right from the product design level.

 

Perhaps you are correct... but we'll never know without internal temps, will we?

 

cool. nice review...

So when can we get a review of 6930p and 8530p

 

I just find it really odd that most people can distinguish Dell's Inspiron from their Latitude line up and Lenovo's Ideapad from their Thinkpad line up and judge them differrently, but nearly everyone will fail to see HP in the same way. It's as if Pavillions are the only product line up that HP ever makes and the business lines are not been judged as distinctly as people have done between Dell and Lenovo's consumer and business range.

HP's attempt to christen it's premium business notebook range will hopefully address this, so people can now seriously compare an Elitebook vs Thinkpad vs Latitudes. Apparently model numbers don't work well for product recognition, which is a main reason the 8510p was always overlooked when 15.4" business notebooks are taken into consideration.

 

Also, no editor's choice award? On that basis, does NBR editors believe that the Thinkpad T500 is a better laptop?

 

This is a great review, thanks. I think HP is really moving aggressively into the laptop market these 2 years.

 

Well, personally I think its often over looked because its price was always alittle high than the rest, people don't realise what you get with that extra bit of money. Fantastic battery life with the standard battery, international warranty, world class support. Those are some stuff that people generally don't take into consideration or appreciate when they see all the 2.8Ghz CPUs and their 7200rpm hdd, or 4GB ram for a lower price unfortunately.

 

Do you think it's better strategy for HP to follow Lenovo and Dell and cut down on those additional features that cost a premium and provide a minimal configuration? Lenovo and Dell makes you pay for better warranty and support when this is a standard feature with HP. Additionally, you rarely (and this is true from experience) ever get poorly assembled HP business notebooks. Don't know if this is due to better casing design such that you can't misassemble the laptop, but you don't get those issues of missing screws, uneven casing, gaps not snap shut, glue residue, etc. that I've seen with Lenovo or Dell's business notebooks. The worst that they've done is to affix the case stickers crooked.

As an OCD person, I value the scratch-proof durability and perfect build that I've always get with HP's business notebooks since the nc8230. I've managed to find a scratch in every other notebook casing.

 

Most certainly not. And if they do at some point, I will be extremely disappointed. I am always prepared to pay a higher price for a good product. Then again, low HP business notebook sales isn't exactly a bad thing for us is it? You almost never (if ever) here about delays in delivery for HP business notebooks either. Vendors also sell these notebooks at a similar if not lower price than HP.

 

aah finally

was waiting and searching for ages and finally found a good review

I'm now waiting for my notebook i ordered the Hp 8730w with the ATi fireGL V5725 256Mb dedicated

 

maybe a a comparison to a T500?

 

Well really, it should be compared to either the W500 or the Precision M4400. Or, all three together. That would be like a dream come true?

 

can you post 8530 wallpaper, please

 

good review like always Jerry sigh if only the 770m was in the 6930p

 

I want 8730 so much...

 

I'd like to point out the good placement of ports with nothing sticking out in the front .

Don't know why they couldn't fit all the ports in the larger case of the 8730 just as well . I know I will not upgrade my 8710 to 8730 because of that design fault .

 

Nice review.

Only thing i find somewhat funny is the sudden emphasis on it being so heavy. According to HP it has 6.3 lbs (which also is still just below 3kg), its predecessor the 8510w has 6.1 lbs which i always considered to be normal or even on the lighter side for notebooks this type (and i ve never heard it being called heavy).
Personally i d say 3kg or just below are the norm for 15.4", only anything clearly above that like some gaming notebooks i d consider 'heavy'. But i guess thats thats a matter of taste. Naturally a 15.4 cant compete with some sleek 13.3" or so, but then its also not meant to ;P

And since you said its especially heavy with the power adapter .. did that change, not the 90w one used with previous ones anymore?

 

According to the HP site, the 8530w supports up to 8GB RAM. Do you know if this is true. Also, can it use DDR3 RAM, or only DDR2?

 

Wow, your 8510p runs a lot cooler than my nw8440. My nw8440 will easily go to 80C when gaming, but never higher than that. It typically idles around 55-60C, though I haven't checked in a long time. It looks like HP improved the thermal system with 8510 series, and judging by the number of additional vents on the new 8530 series, it looks like it has only gotten better.

 

Its 120W this time round. For the 8530p too. Which I found odd.

8GB yes. DDR 2 I think.

 

I can't remember exactly where I read it from, but it said only ddr2 is supported at the moment. But support for 8GB is pretty amazing.

 

The touchpad buttons that often didn't register a click when pressed were too frustrating for me to completely ignore. I didn't stress it too heavily in the review since it "might" be a pre-production issue, but I was so frustrated by those buttons that I wanted to throw the 8530w at the wall.

Of course ... the 8530w is so amazingly tough that if I had thrown it against the wall the notebook would have laughed at me, sprouted mechanical legs, and then beaten the living sh!t out of me.

Really, the only things that kept this notebook from getting an editor's choice award were weight, those rubber touchpad buttons (which "might" be a pre-production issue), and the price as configured (which seems a little high, but not completely out of line compared to other mobile workstations).

 

A similarly configured W500 came to around $2400 and the M440 came to $2200 without the Bluray drive. But as points I mentioned before, for a 100 or 200 more, I would definitely pick the HP.

 

Not sure why, but the entire new elitebook don't have DDR3 as standard.

The cooling system is not as good at that found the Thinkpad either.
Now if the screen on the W500 happens to be worse, and M4400 (this time around Dell makes some serious "cool" ones) is not as robust. The 8530w could be a winner in my book.
And yes, price is an important factor as well. I had to save up 7 months to get my HP.

It is a really nice laptop, but I would prefer something that runs cooler.
Ya know what I mean. And I truly think that thinkpad is a little bit better.
There are something to complain about my HP, as ya know.

 

Ahh nice to finally see this review. Always interesting to see how my laptop's younger siblings turn out.

Most people have already commented on the things I noticed (HP DriveGuard, keyboard flex, DuraFinish on last year's models), but it's nice to see eSATA and better ventilation as well. Although I guess it really needs it due to the GPU. In the end the 8530p might be a better choice due to its less powerful (and cooler running!) GPU ho hum...

 

Wow, great first review on this series!

As both a 8510p owner and a NC8430 before that, I'm a firm believer in how great these notebooks are.

Some correction though is warranted. Durafinish, Durakeys, and the 3D Driveguard are all part of the 8510p, except the Durakeys on the 8510p never was supplied to the touchpad, which is the major difference. The 3d Driveguard was even around during the NC8430 era.

Evidence here:
http://h20195.www2.hp.com/V2/GetDocument.aspx?docid=0900a5a581e2fe91&cc=cz&lc=cs

The big deal is the Duracase, which is new, with Durafinish now referring to the brushed aluminum interior palmrest and surrounding areas.

 

Agreed. Heat and noise are two HUGE factors for notebooks. As is battery life. These three combined determine notebook reliability.

 

Agreed. All three would be useful.

 

what make is the screen?

as it is one of the concerns in the other brand offerings.

thanks
MadEngineer

 

Hi Jerry great review!

Just a quick question, do you mind measuring the notebook at its thickest? I know the website says 1.1" but that's only at the front...

 

I just noticed but the 3Dmark is actually about 600-800 points less then the dell with the same processor and GPU......guess this needs a driver update.

 

Hhhmm, ok, thats weird actually.

It basically does have the same components than its predecessor after all, just a generation newer (which i d have assumed to potentially rather use less power than more). Same size battery, and some estimated running time .. so it shouldnt really draw more power

Hp also lists its 90W (and even the 65W) AC adapters as compatible too.
Only reason i d see for 120W to have shorter battery charge times while also using it. But i d much rather have a smaller power adapter.

 

You can use a lower-wattage adapter than specified; however, the computer will have to underclock components such as the CPU and GPU, since the lower-wattage power adapter won't be able to supply the power needed to drive the CPU and GPU at their maximum potential. It may also increase charging times, as well.

 

True true. I would like to also point out (to everyone generally) that the Hp 8 cell battery has the ''fast charge'' feature. 90% in err 1hr? I can't remember. But its is pretty quick from personal experience. Did you 8440 feature that Teraforce?

 

Yes, my nw8440 does feature FastCharge technology (The 8200, 8400, and 8510 series all use the same primary battery). It charges the first 90% of the battery in 90 minutes, or 1% per minute (indicated by an amber charge LED). It takes about another 30 minutes to 1 hour to charge the final 10% (indicated by a green charge LED).

Personally, though, I wish HP didn't use FastCharge technology. It's a well-known fact around my campus that the HP batteries are very crappy to say the least (except for the seniors, we all have either nw8440s or 8510ws); they typically lose all their charging capacity after 1 year. I tend to blame this on the FastCharge technology, because the faster you recharge a battery, the harder it is on the battery cells, which leads to a shorter lifespan of the battery.

 

But the components in 8530w don't draw more than those in 8510w so it doesn't make much sense.

It would seem more probable that the stronger adapter is meant to be used with the HP Advanced Docking Station. I got two adapters with my 8710w - 135W and 180W. The first one is for normal usage and the second one is to be used with the advanced docking station IIRC (which also contains a multibay).

 

Hey Jerry - nice review. I just bought the 8530w and I'm very pleased. However, It came with 2GB of RAM and I added another 2GB by putting in another chip. Did you notice that Vista only allows 3GB of memory to be available at anytime? I read an MSDN article on this that I found interesting. Just wondering if you found a workaround for this, besides using Vista64. Thanks!! -Matt

MSDN Article: support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/

 

The only workaround to the 3Gb RAM limit is to use a 64-bit OS (Vista x64, 64-bit Linux, etc.). 32-Bit OSes can't address more than ~3Gb of RAM. It's not a Vista limitation, it's a 32-bit limitation.

 

Can the HDMI port on the 8530W drive a 1600x1200 display?

HP's specs say the HDMI port is limited to 1920x1080 (i.e. 1080p), but they don't say if this is a limit in terms of total pixels or total lines.