HP Announces New Consumer Notebooks Discussion

Today HP announced the refresh of their entire consumer notebook lineup with new models following their MUSE design philosophy. MUSE, which stands for materials, usability, sensory appeal and experiences, is aimed at building and designing products that not only look good but have great functionality. The model refresh includes notebooks from the Pavilion dv and dm-series as well as the ENVY lineup.

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Please oh please let there be an arrandale TM2. *goes to read the article*

Edit: So no arrandale on the new DM4, they're sticking with yesterday's technology I see. And no arrandale TM2.

 

Out of all of those notebooks the Envy 17 was short-out with drool worthy. Prices are much nicer this time around.

 

Have the specs on any of the other models been listed anywhere? The dv6 seems to have gotten quite the aesthetic upgrade. Just hope they have some decent GPU/screen options to match.

 

I have been searching far and wide for a spec sheet on the consumer models but they aren't out yet. This is the type of stuff I had to work with:

"High performance with the latest quad-core processors and powerful discrete graphics choices"

 

I really don't like that HP swirl pattern though, I think they could do without that.

 

Why is HP replacing 13.3" machines with 14"er's? Are they exactly the same size? I remember a Fujitsu that was the size of a 13.3" but had a 14.1" screen.

Notebooks.com also has videos of all the others:
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Not that I'm in the market for a new notebook as I just got my ENVY 15 a few months ago... but I'm not sure I'm crazy about them not having a 15 inch ENVY model anymore...

If I had to do it over again I'd skip the ENVY line and head right for the dv6 as it's the only 15 incher left!

 

Yeah after a quick google search all I could come up with was that the resolution on the DV6 and DV7 were 1366 x 768 and 1600 x 900 max respectively. And of course that both would offer blu-ray, quad-core and the dv7 would have 2 hdd bay spots. Still waiting to get my envy back from repair, considering the 15 model is being phased out maybe thats why its taking so long.

 

On the ENVY line they are bumping the size up because it was the sole thing holding back what was physically possible to cram inside the system. The butter-zone on the small side of the scale was 14" with the 17" size being best for a large size.

It allowed them to bump the graphics, bump the processor, add a slot loading drive and on top of it all lower the price. All that was possible by bumping the size from 13.3" to 14"

 

Why are they ditching 13.3"?

I am a college student and I have used 14.1" (dv2715nr) for 2 years before I moved to 13.3" (dm3t CTO). I found the 13.3" is way better than 14.1".

Portability, weight and battery life.

 

Finally, the ENVY line gets backlit keyboards. That should have been there from the start. The 17" model is of little interest to me, too bad they aren't detailing what will be in the 14".

I hope the 14" utilizes a Core i7-620 (if not a Quad), and a 5830/5770 graphics card, along with a edge-to-edge RADIANCE level display. I sent back my 15" Envy because of the craptacular BIOS, so that will need to be fixed. I really hope they don't stiff the 14" model like they did with the ENVY 13.

 

These have been in Australia for quite some time already (a few weeks)

One of the DV6's I'm looking at getting is a Core i7 720QM, 6GB Ram, ATI 5650.

Just need info re: battery life.

 

Have they officially said they're getting rid of the HP Envy 15? That was the sweet-spot for me. D:

 

These look really nice! I would like to know the battery life and the GPU on the DV5.

 

What goes around comes around, welcome back to the Pavilion dv5. I'll be interested to hear if the new lid that's a blend of glossy and matte actually works to reduce the cursed greasy fingerprint all over lid issues.

 

I'm wondering if that dm1z will use the new AMD Neos.

 

They can cram a quad-core CPU into the Envy 14. The press release says it's "one of the thinnest and lightest quad-core notebooks" yet. The other thing is that the graphics card is a Radeon 5650. Don't know if there's an option for a better graphics card. Would do wonders, I know, but then again, a smaller chassis WITH an optical drive leaves little room.

Availability somewhere in June, right? Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Do you know of the DV6 has switchable graphics?

 

I'm in the market for a 15.6" notebook and was hoping I would see a new ENVY 15" with blu ray drive and 1600x900 or 1920x1080 resolution. The EVNY 17 is too big, but I might be able to go down to the envy 14, so long as it has 1600x900 resolution.

 

I just discovered that the ENVY 14 will have a 1600x900 display, but I can't confirm whether or not bluray will be available for it.

 

Hopefully a higher-than 1366x768/"HD" resolution screen is available on the 14"+ Pavilion notebooks. That resolution is okay for smaller notebooks but on a larger screen it holds back productivity.

 

No one has explicitly said that the Envy 15 is getting eliminated, only the Envy 13.

 

I'm speachless. The Envy 14 looks amazing! It's like a more affordable Macbook Pro 13" with specs that even rival the 15" Macbook Pro.

As much as I'd like to clear my credit card debt, forget it pal. I'm getting one as soon as it's available.

 

I'm really disappointed that HP is moving away from the 13" laptop segment. I've owned 14" and 15" laptops before, but they're simply not a size I like much. I think 13" is much better for portability as well as use.

Also, I'm disappointed they haven't added Ion/Optimus technology to their netbooks yet (no 311 update?) and that they've left the dm1 untouched style-wise, while the standard Minis are starting to look much better (like the 210).

I'd never buy it, but that pink Mini 210 looks very nice. I'm sure it'll get quite a few college girls buying it if they sell it in stores.

 

Ion isn't practical anymore compared to Neo or CULV since the Nvidia option has a higher cost, requires more room, produces more heat, draws more power, and doesn't offer a significant increase in performance.

 

I'm aware it does all those things, but at the same time it's not a significant increase in cost, doesn't require a significant more amount of room, doesn't produce a significant more amount of heat and doesn't draw significantly more power (and remember, Optimus would be there). If it were, then why are notebook/netbook manufacturers such as Asus able to implement them with such ease and get rave reviews?

Also, you're comparing different things. If you mean Intel's CULV, then their coupled integrated graphics option is absolutely horrible and I would disagree about performance. Ion offers far better performance than the standard Atom (or CULV) in 3D applications as well as HD viewing.

Even with Intel CULV, it needs far better graphics processing as all of Intel's solutions suck horribly. AMD is a bit better in that regard, but their battery life is abysmal compared to Atom/Ion/Optimus (or CULV/Optimus).

 

Looks like HP is going for the throat of its competitors in the consumer laptop market. With these they will probably pull significantly ahead of Dell in the US market and I wouldn't be surprised if they took 25% of the global market by the end of the year.

 

...why oh why did they put an optical drive into the ENVY line, especially the 13".

ugh, i would have killed for a better cooling system.

 

Just curious, it says the DV7 will be getting

is this just switchable GFX or actual crossfire?

 

Judging by the use of "crossfire" I'd say it's 2x graphics card capabilities. Seems misleading otherwise....

 

I've read that the ENVY 14 will have quad core support (today's engadget), but they seem to cite a Core i5 as the processor included. That can't be if I recall, as the only Quads are the Core i7-920, i7-820, and i7-720, like those included in the first generation Envy 15. Now, I would be extremely happy if the 14 includes an 820 option as well, but I'm a little worried when they cite the i5 as the thermal difference between an i5-520 dual core and i7-820 Quad is significant.

They also cite a 5830, which I hope will be the ENVY 14's graphics, if the 5850 is the 17 model's. This is the best card I could hope for in a 13"/14" laptop these days! I really hope it comes with at least 1gb of GDDR3/GDDR5.

I've heard that the 14 won't be available until Mid June, but will this be for shipping, or won't we be able to even place orders until then?

 

Also am curious about the battery life on these models....

 

Finally with Optical Drive!!

 

Hope so, high end would indicate 5850s or 5870s which would put the laptop in direct competition with the M17x except it looks 10x better lol.

 

Source: HP Envy 17 and HP Envy 14 Video Previewed

The Envy 14 looks like a great notebook.

 

looking forward to battery life info on the Envy 17...and an explanation on why the Envy 14 would get switchable graphics, but not the Envy 17.

I also find it very surprising that the Envy 17 can only support 8GB of ram.

It really is a slightly higher spec'd 17" MBP. I'm okay with that. Only question will be one of build quality/durability/scratch resistance and battery life.

I expect it to get maybe 3-4 hours of battery life and consumers looking at the Envy 17 and the 17" MBP will have to decide how much that few extra hours of battery life, better & higher resolution screen and slightly higher brand quality/reliability will matter. I presume that the Envy 17 will be ~$1000 less than a similarly equipped 17" MBP.

That's a lot of moolah.

 

I'm concerned whether or not the Envy 14 will support bluray or not. They could be omitting mention of bluray as it won't start at 1k with bluray, or it's possible there isnt' a blu-ray drive small enough to fit in that frame. They mention is explicitly with the Envy 17, leading me to believe that that chassis is big enough to support a bluray drive and or bluray comes standard.

 

it probably won't.

 

8gb is the officially supported maximum amount of ram on a i7 processor, hence the 8gb of ram.

 

If the Sony Z can put a Blueray in a 13" 3lb machine then the Envy should be able to fit one.

The Envy 14 sounds more like a 15" (14.5" screen and available quad) and is >5lbs.

Sounds like HP/Envy is abandoning the light segment. They rally have no direct competitor for the Sony Z or Acer 3820TG. Those machines are much lighter (3.06 and 3.9lbs) with full powered i-7 and midrange graphics.

 

actually 16GB is max supported by core i7 so that's why laptops like Dell M6500 , Asus G73 and Envy 15 have 4 slots for 16GB RAM... but anyways , i wonder how hot the envy 17 will run...whatever the case , after the Dv5t , i'm not buying hp.

 

I doubt the 17in Envy 17 will run hotter than 15in quad-core. What I wan to know is how hot will the Envy 14 loaded with the quad-core i7 run.

 

The Envy14 looks great. Def has all the specs I want. It is an hp though, so I don't know if I would be ready to dive into buying a new model without there being some solid reviews.

 

Still worth noting that even if the envy 14 offers quad-core support that will likely mean no option for switchable graphics so I doubt that 6 hour claim will hold up for the quad-core options. Even on my envy 15 I only manage 2.5hrs on average and considering the envy 14 has a brighter screen and less internal space (I'm guessing) I would take the 6hrs claim with a grain of salt for those seriously interested in long battery life. At least not without including a slice too.

 

This.

Definitely won't be getting the quad-core version, I want my battery life

The Envy 17 looks like the mother of all 17 inchers with Eyefinity support, quality screen, Radeon 5850 DDR5, Blu-Ray, and 3D capability. Sure, no switchable graphics, but damn, all that for way, and I mean way less, than a maxed out MBP 17 (which still can't touch the specs, excepting battery life).

The redesign of the other series look appealing too. I really like the redesign of all their laptops. Finally the DV series looks good, the old ones looked fugly.

I don't have a favorite company, but if this massive overhaul of HP notebooks turns out for the better, I might just have one.

 

For a Linux user like myself, I think its awesome that the powerful Quad Core option for the Envy 14 has sole discrete graphics. I almost never use integrated, and though ATI has a MUCH better switchable graphics implementation for compatibility than Nvidia's optimus crap, I'm glad I'll know when I boot up that my OS will see my discrete graphics card. Battery life can be extended by proper power management and the slice battery is an absolutely awesome idea. It was the one thing I knew I'd miss when I sent back my original Envy 15 and that was the first generation slice that didn't sit as well as second generation. By the Envy 14's 3rd generation slice, there should be little danger of it not securing properly.

I though I was done with HP after the last Envy, but it seems they really are taking to heart what their users want, hardware wise.

 

If it's really packing a Crossfire set-up, the dv7 is a much more impressive 17" machine....it would be in the M17x/Clevo league.


Granted it's probably not true but damned if I'm not fascinated by the possible combination of an AMD Phenom II x4, the M880G/HD4250 chipset, and dual Mob. HD5800 cards.

 

The 14" Envy looks like it could be a replacement for my Sony SZ. It has a dvd drive which i wanted and at 14" it is bearable if i ever need to take it out. It would be a desktop replacement though. I already have a TT for portability purposes. I could not see the point in a 13.1 Z when i own a 11.1 TT. At least a 13.3 notebook made more sense to me. The Sony S series display although it is ok it is a bit lacking for me.

Hopefully the display is very good. It also comes with decent connectivity options like 3G which the MBP lacks for me.

I don't really like overly glossy displays but i could live with that.

 

So the Envy 14 is basically a Pavilion dv5 with a brighter screen, backlit keyboard, switchable graphics and slot-loading drive?

Please excuse my ignorance, but isn't the "brushed aluminum finish" actually supposed to indicate a metal casing? Or plastic made to appear like aluminum?