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    Geek Squad City Tour

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Andrew Baxter, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. Andrew Baxter

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    Kentucky is known for horse racing, Louisville slugger baseball bats and blue grass.  Maybe laptop repair central should be added to that list as we found out on a recent visit to Geek Squad City in Kentucky where over 3,000 laptops are repaired daily on a four-acre site.

    Geek Squad Overview

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    Geek Squad City HQ (view large image)

    Many have seen the Geek Squad counter at their local Best Buy electronics store.  Geek Squad was a PC repair company based in Minnesota before being acquired by Best Buy back in 2002.  After partnering with Best Buy, Geek Squad went national and you’ll find their service desks in around 800 Best Buy stores across the U.S.  Geek Squad “Agents” can work on fixing your broken PC by either coming on site (if you’re lucky they’ll drive to you using their Geek Squad branded VW Bug), fixing the computer at the Best Buy location or, as is most often the case for notebooks, it will be sent to Geek Squad City in Louisville Kentucky for repair.

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    Timeline of Geek Squad history (view large image)

    Geek Squad will fix laptops that are covered under warranty purchased at Best Buy and they’ll also perform services and repairs for non-warranty laptops.  You can see the GeekSquad.com price list to get an idea of the prices and entire range of services they offer.

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    We found a Geek Squad VW Bug in the lobby of Geek Squad City (view large image)

    Geek Squad City Overview

    Being located in Cincinnati we’re a fairly fast 1.5 hour drive from Brooks, Kentucky where Geek Squad City is located.  We contacted the folks there and asked for a tour, to which they were much obliged.  Our tour guide was the actual “Mayor” of Geek Squad City, Wes Snyder, who was a very enthusiastic gentleman.  As the title would indicate, Wes essentially runs the city and is in charge of making sure everyone is happy.  Based on the friendly waves and greetings he got from his fellow Geeks, we assume the Mayor is a popular one – even if he wasn’t exactly voted for and elected.

    At Geek Squad City 90% of the repair units that come in on a given day are notebooks, the other 10% are mostly desktop PC systems. Geek Squad found it easier to centralize laptop repairs due to the fact it’s easier to fix notebooks and have all the right parts in stock in one place rather than at 800 different Best Buy locations.

    The busiest day each week is a Wednesday when approximately 3,500 notebooks will come in, give or take a thousand depending on the season.  Why is a Wednesday busiest you ask?  Most broken notebooks are taken into Best Buy locations over the weekend when people are off work, and then they are sent via 2-day UPS shipping to Louisville and thus arrive en masse during the middle of the week.

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    The nearby UPS facility ties in closely with Geek Squad operations and shipping logistics (view large image)

    To give you an idea of the logistics involved here, 3,500 broken notebooks is about five UPS trucks full.  Geek Squad City was strategically located within 6.5 miles of Louisville airport because it is a UPS shipping hub.  UPS flights land at around 5 a.m. in the morning, and soon thereafter broken laptops are arriving at Geek Squad City.  Then at the end of the day fixed laptops are picked up in time for the 10 p.m. UPS flights out of Louisville airport.  Forty percent of notebooks that arrive will be fixed within 24 hours, meaning a laptops stay in Kentucky could be only a matter of hours.

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    A look at the &quot;Downtown&quot; floor at Geek Squad City where all the repairs take place (view large image)

    The size of the Geek Squad City operation is quite amazing.  There are 640 workers located in a four-acre facility that opened at the end of October 2006.  The repair floor, affectionately called “Downtown”, is where all the action takes place.  Downtown looks like any other high tech manufacturing floor you’ll see.  It’s brightly lit, warehouse like, extremely clean, has lots of conveyor belts, is lined with computer terminals and workbenches and the area hums with activity as carts of bar coded broken laptops are pushed around.  As each Geek Squad Agent works to repair a notebook they update repair status information on a proprietary web-based tracking application called Agent Zone.  Agent Zone allows managers to see how fast things are being fixed and to flag any system that has been hanging around for more than three days.  If a notebook is at Geek Squad City for more than three days a status update is sent to the Best Buy it originated from. The only reason it would take such an amount of time is if they’re waiting for a part or can’t reach the customer to ask a question.

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    An agent at work fixing a notebook (view large image)

    What’s the most common notebook problem fixed at Geek Squad City?

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    Training bench in the lab at Geek Squad City (view large image)

    Agents are trained on a variety of repairs done to notebooks in a lab area they have in Geek Squad City.  Manufacturers will even go so far as to send sample units of upcoming notebooks months ahead of time so that Agents can be trained on the internals of each notebook they’ll see.  But at the end of the day there are a few repairs that will come up again and again.  The top four repairs are:

    1. Loose DC Jacks that need to be soldered back to the mother board
    2. Too much dust build-up causing overheating
    3. Motherboard issues
    4. Cracked or damaged screens

    The #3 and #4 repair issues are close enough to be called a tie according to Wes.  Learn from this list and make sure no repair shop convinces you a new motherboard is needed when a power jack becomes loose and always blow out dust from your fans using a can of compressed air spray!

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    Training lab (view large image)

    While most notebooks do get fixed, there are some under warranty that simply can’t be fixed at any reasonable cost.  When an Agent determines a laptop needs to be junked they’ll take it apart and make sure to shred the hard drive so the source of your personal data is destroyed.  The notebook will be sent to a recycling plant at that point.  One thing Geek Squad is experimenting with is taking out “good parts” from a junked laptop and hopefully finding a way to use it to fix other broken notebooks of the same brand.  Sort of like an organ donor. The thinking is it will be cheaper and quicker to access available used parts than wait for new parts to come in.

    Interesting Facts

    As with any work environment, things can get stressful, so Geeks are provided with a way to let off steam in the “Downtime” room.  In this room there are several Xbox 360 machines, PC gaming rigs, a Nintendo Wii, Pool table, foosball and comfy couches.

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    The cafeteria is rather interesting, with tables areas named after planets and LCD televisions generously sprinkled about.

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    Geek Squad City cafeteria (view large image)

    With all the notebooks shipped to Geek Squad City in a given day, Wes indicated there are about 20 packages they receive each day that are simply “incorrect”.  One time they even mistakenly received 60lbs of chocolates via UPS, that was polished off instead of being turned away though.

    One of the burning questions I had was to find out whether the Agents really wore those ties you see while working on the Downtown repair floor – they do indeed.  Strict geek tie only dress code applies to the agents here, while the rest of the staff wear black collared shirts.

    Another thing I wanted to know is whether all Geek Squad employees drove to work in a Volkswagen Bug.  While they did have a Bug on display in the lobby, I was disappointed to find no VW Bugs in the parking lot outside – they all drove mundane looking “normal” cars.

    Conclusion

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    Before visiting Geek Squad City I have to admit to being mostly ignorant to the services and capabilities of Geek Squad.  But I left the facility being nothing but impressed by the way it is run and the way people that work there are trained.  The Agents there all loved the work they were doing and the entire operation was very well managed.  The logistics are sort of mind-blowing when you think about the fact they’ve sometimes received 4,000+ broken notebooks in a day and often turnaround repairs within 24-hours.  The goal is to grow too, providing repair service to customers outside of just the Best Buy channel.  So next time you have a broken laptop and are considering your options for a fix, marching to the local Best Buy might be better than going to some shady repair shop down the street or trying to muddle through your own repair attempts.

     
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  2. Cam_86

    Cam_86 Notebook Evangelist

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    Is this an advertisement? I find it kinda odd they are being positively reviewed here, since almost ANY tech-literate person views them as painfully under-trained, and exhorbantly over-priced.
     
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    Geek Squad is overpriced and they do a bad job. Example, my girlfriend bought the extended warranty and we dropped her Toshiba off for repair, 6 weeks later she gets a phone call from some person 2 cities away who says they have a box for her. Thank the Lord that the person was honest enough to let her know about it and not keep it, turns out it was her laptop. Then they replaced the Motherboard which fixed the issue but I had to go back into it and finish the job. Some how or another they wiped the HDD completely and we spent a few days looking for recovery discs. I know people can have both good and bad experiences, just sharing my one and only not so good experience. Oh and when I bought this lappy they said they would basically remove the bloatware and install AV on my computer, for only 150.00 dollars, no thanks. The AV was already on the laptop and I can remove it myself. I pity the person who buys a computer and wastes this money.
     
  4. Andrew Baxter

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    No, not an advertisement. I will say that many people in this forum probably are a lot more capable at fixing their notebook than the average person that walks into BB :cool:
     
  5. LFC

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    I see nak-ed fingers! :p Hope they give the innards a good wipe

    Find it humorous #2 is on the list. Quite simple to remedy, though I understand if some are too nervous to open up their laptops themselves
     
  6. sanpabloguy

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    Yeah, BB and GS get banged pretty hard here (and quite a few other forums), but mostly in tech-oriented groups than society at large.

    And I honestly haven't seen too many complaints about GS repairs - mainly their customer service and the in-store employees. For most "standard" users with basic problems/repairs (like dusty internals) and a fear of ruining their investment, GS is probably great.

    Big props to people who do care enough to try and get things fixed, instead of relegating it to the dump right away and getting something new.

    Interesting look into the belly of the Beast Buy. :eek: :D

    Thanks, Andrew.
     
  7. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yeah, in my experience BB is usually the issue. The last (and seriously, I mean the last ever) I dealt with BB's notebooks were when I needed a motherboard fixed...and 6 weeks later the laptop didn't even get shipped out to GS City and they gave it back to me. I'm not kidding.
     
  8. ninjatorpedo

    ninjatorpedo Notebook Guru

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    That looks like a very very very sad place to work. Or maybe the dress code is just sad.
     
  9. Gophn

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    I have yet to be impressed with anything that Geek Squad has done...
    their competence is that of a noobie A+ Certified kid that is highly inexperienced and barely knows enough to format and re-install Windows.... as well as overcharge their customers.

    Bad experience + overpriced = A BAD DEAL for the consumer

    Remember you heard this here first:
    I will level the playing field in the computer repair industry is less than 2 years.... then my identity will be revealed. The retailers are not gonna like it one bit. ;)

    They are not going to know whats gonna to hit them. :D
     
  10. Brian

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    Yeah, they all wear a uniform, it's part of the culture. As to working there, it seemed like a good place to be. Each station had its own identity, with music playing and so on. They also have a better break room than we do, stocked with 360's, Wii, ping pong and so on.

    As to the shots that they're not capable, I guess it's easier to complain about the bad cases then to realize the overwhelming majority go well and customers are satisfied. They do a ton of warranty work here too, so often their actions go on behind the scenes.
     
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    Can't wait to see Gophn Squad when it comes out. Yeah!
     
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    And to think GeekSqaud still wont look at me because I dont have A+ certs, even though I have about 2 years of notebook/electronics repair experience at another local shop. :(
     
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    No pool table though ;)

    Steven,
    aka serial pool player

    @ Diet, perhaps they want a certain class of people :D
     
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    yeah.... moron techs that don't know much probably ;)
     
  15. LFC

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    Oh, I was talking about people who pin down poor, defenceless animals for their own, selfish gratuitous motives

    Or what you said. Whatever :D
     
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    :( Just because I smash laptops with soda cans DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T FIX LAPTOPS
     
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    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    How many employees of Geek Squad are actual Geeks? My guess is 85% of them are 22 yr old slackers who still date high school chicks and smoke too much weed.
     
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    Whatchumean too much? :D
     
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    HAHah. Exactly!
     
  20. AlexOnFyre

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    A) Try 35 year old slackers who TRY to date high school chicks and WISH THEY WERE COOL ENOUGH to smoke weed.

    B) I would love to live in Gophn city =P
     
  21. Orlbuckeye

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    Actually when I sent my Sager back they recommend removing the hard drive. A lot of people do that before sending them in for repairs.
     
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    I recently heard some bad press from the Geek Squad where a guy went to a house to fix a pc and installed a camera in the bathroom and got caught.
     
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    Old news...and it wasn't like he was doing this for GS. From what I heard of the story, a lot of people thought the girls were scammers.
     
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    It looks like an interesting brand new facility, but I think a speak for a lot of advanced technical people like myself when I say I don't like other people touching my electronics. Give me the parts and materials and I'll fix it myself. I'm sure the general public finds Geek Squad quite useful though. I can't even begin to count the number of times people try to get me to fix their stuff. I can do it normally but that doesn't mean I want to do it, regardless of price. It is nice for people to have an alternative.
     
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    Seriously, if I can't fix it, then I can't trust the Dork Patrol, or whatever they call themselves to do it either.
     
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    If I have a computer problem, I fix or attempt to fix it myself. Normally I fix it, but if not, I'm not paying any money to get it fixed, especially not that much... The prices at a local PC repair shop are pretty bad as it is ($40 to install an optical drive in a desktop...it's not that hard), Geek Squad is even worse.