Gateway P-6831FX User Review

by Perry Longinotti

It seems like only yesterday that consumer notebooks were simply analogs of their corporate cousins. Think grey slabs of plastic with no personality. Those were sad times.

Something happened recently to change this. I don't know if it was a resurgent Apple showing the big PC makers how to infuse some soul and character into their products or if it was the realization that there is no longer any way to differentiate against a competitor through specs alone. Maybe it was something else entirely. Whatever the reason, PC makers have discovered style.

HP and Dell, as leaders in this industry, have come out with some very impressive designs recently. Where only a short while ago you would have bought a notebook from either of these brands because of low cost, now you might buy one because its cool. Yeah, that's right I said Dells are sexy (but only some models).

Gateway, the perennial market share follower in the PC industry is attempting to join the fray too. While HP and Dell can draw on the hot rod artists at VoodooPC and Alienware (boutique brands recently acquired) to develop cool computers, how do the Gateway folks manage? Surprisingly well as it turns out.

Today we'll be taking a look at the Gateway P-Series FX Edition 6831. This is Gateways attempt at a full blown gaming rig that won't destroy your bank balance.

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Specifications for the Gateway P-6831FX include:

• Intel Core 2 Duo 5450 CPU 1.67 GHz
• 3 GB DDR2 RAM
• 250 GB HDD 5400 rpm
• Nvidia GeForce 8800M GTS 512 MB GDDR3
• 17" 1440x900 display
• Windows Vista Home Premium

First Impressions

During a recent visit to my local Best Buy, I spotted a flashy looking desktop replacement notebook. It's gloss black faux carbon fiber weave accented by copper paint and gratuitous brushed metal. I did a double take at the specs and the price; $1,350. Was it on sale? No, actually it wasn't. I was looking for a sub-notebook, but somehow I talked myself into buying this. That sort of irrational leap is pretty common in my computer hobby; I never know which way the wind will blow me. When I see something with this much personality I have a hard time walking away.

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Taking it home and un-boxing it I could not help but notice the care taken to preserve the FX's finish. It was packed in ample dense foam. In addition to the notebook, battery and charger Gateway saw fit to include a full manual and restore disk. Very few of the notebooks I have reviewed in the past two years have come with restore disks.

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Like the Gateway 8510GZ that I reviewed a couple of year ago, the FX weight feels more reasonable than the numbers would indicate. At about 9 pounds with power adapter, it is about 35% heavier than what most notebook users are accustomed to. A 17" chassis (16 by 12 inch desktop footprint) gives a PC maker a lot more room to work with and spread things out so the FX also feels thin despite being two inches thick. In short, this notebook is plenty portable. It would make a fantastic LAN party solution. Do people still have LAN parties?

The 17-inch Gateway P-6831FX and
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In the past I reviewed large form factor notebooks that tended to creak and groan under their own weight as I moved them around. The FX is solid. There is no noise whatsoever and no hint of chassis flex.

Gateway has produced a beautiful notebook whose materials, finish and construction do not match the reasonable price that they are charging. It might be too flashy for some, but this notebook is meant to be loud and wants to be noticed. Give Gateway points for fully committing to the concept even if it isn't to everyone's taste. The FX should appeal to gamers that require a degree of portability without having to sacrifice too much in terms of game play performance.

Hardware and Performance

It is not often that I get to describe a notebook's Core 2 Duo notebook as a weak link. The T5450 is a Merom-based dual core chip with 2 MB of level two cache fabricated on Intel's 65 nm process. The 1.67 GHz speed is a concern on a notebook designed for gaming, but it is generally easier to upgrade a CPU than a GPU in the majority of today's notebooks. The T5450 uses a 667 MHz front side bus speed. This chip lacks Intel's Virtualization and Trusted Execution features but I don't know that the typical gamer will miss those features. Here are some quick numbers that should illustrate how the T5450 performs.

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A SuperPi time of 1 minute 16 seconds won't break any speed records.

Likewise a wPrime time of 50 seconds is pretty weak.

Not bad. This is not the fastest CPU out there, not even close, but it is an acceptable sacrifice that enables Gateway to fit better components elsewhere while still being affordable.

PCMark05	Out of the box
System Test Suite	4,598 PCMarks
HDD - XP Startup	8.08 MB/s
Physics and 3D	138.72 FPS
Transparent Windows	2122.83 Windows/s
3D - Pixel Shader	340.8 FPS
Web Page Rendering	1.47 Pages/s
File Decryption	45.07 MB/s
Graphics Memory - 64 Lines	1084.42 FPS
HDD - General Usage	4.69 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 1 / Audio Compression	1657.5 KB/s
Multithreaded Test 1 / Video Encoding	290.27 KB/s
Multithreaded Test 2 / Text Edit	92.06 Pages/s
Multithreaded Test 2 / Image Decompression	22.91 MPixels/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / File Compression	3.83 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / File Encryption	20.63 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / HDD - Virus Scan	21.79 MB/s
Multithreaded Test 3 / Memory Latency - Random 16 MB	7.78 MAccesses/s

The FX offers a Socket P CPU insuring an upgrade path for the future (if required). You will be able to install an Intel T7000, T8000 and T9000 series CPU to give the FX more muscle. The T8000 and T9000 are based on Intel's Penryn core. Its advantages over Merom are increased level two cache (up to 6 MB), a smaller fabrication process (improved efficiency and less heat) and Intel's new SSE4 multimedia instructions (better multimedia performance). This last feature will probably be the one of most interest to gamers and media buffs who might consider the FX for purchase. The new chips should offer a 10-20% improvement in everyday tasks and significant gains in SSE4 optimized programs.

It might be unrealistic to expect Intel's Quad Core mobile processors to work in the FX but we will know for sure later this year (before May). The first generation of Quad Core mobile processors will be based on Penryn but there is uncertainty over whether or not they will be pin compatible with other Socket P CPUs so let's keep our fingers crossed.

Memory is an unorthodox 3 GB configuration; a 2 GB and 1 GB SODIMM in tandem. This caused some concern on my part that the memory might not be running in dual channel mode. Not doing so would reduce overall performance. A quick check in CPUID allayed my fears - the FX is running dual channel at 667 MHz.

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At the heart of Intel's Centrino family is the core logic chipset. In this case the 965 series (Crestdale - part of the Santa Rosa platform). A chipset is typical comprised of a North bridge (CPU, Memory, Video) and South bridge (I/O, Audio) and ties together all of a computer's components. Intel realized early in the game that having most of the internal components come from one source, and designing them to work together, would give a company a big advantage. In each successive generation of Centrino Intel has managed to raise the bar. Competitive offerings have never really managed much of a threat to Intel's mobile platform. From a technical standpoint, the 965 introduces support for shutting down a CPU core when it is not needed, a 800 MHz front side bus (vs. 400 and 533 previously) and brings a better integrated graphics processor (which is omitted in this case for the vastly superior Nvidia 8800M GTS).

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By far the most interesting component inside the FX is the Nvidia 8800M GTS and its accompanying 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM. More than any other component, it is the video sub system that will tell us just how future proof this notebook is. Often when a new technology like the mobile 8800 is released and you find an implementation of it at a price that seems too good to be true, it is because a cost cutting measure has been hidden in the spec. This is most often manifested by cheaper and slower video RAM. Would the FX, like so many notebooks before it, couple a great GPU with a lowly 64 bit memory path?

3DMark06	Out of the box
3DMark Score	6,882 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score	3,201 Marks
SM 3.0 Score	3,402 Marks
CPU Score	1,418 Marks
1 - Return to Proxycon	26.344 FPS
2 - Firefly Forest	26.999 FPS
CPU1 - Red Valley	0.446 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley	0.722 FPS
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0)	33.02 FPS
2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0)	35.014 FPS
3DMark Score	7,000 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score	3,243 Marks
SM 3.0 Score	3,434 Marks
CPU Score	1,463 Marks
1 - Return to Proxycon	26.776 FPS
2 - Firefly Forest	27.268 FPS
CPU1 - Red Valley	0.462 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley	0.741 FPS
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0)	33.288 FPS
2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0)	35.393 FPS

A quick 3DMark06 run using the FX's less than optimal out of the box configuration returned a result of 6,882 points - installing the 169.28 ForceWare drivers I was able to squeeze a few more points out (7000). This initial score is respectable and corresponds to what I would expect from a 256 bit memory path. This score is nearly 50% faster than 8600M scores I have seen. At the moment Nvidia only offers one mobile GPU better than this one, it is the 8800M GTX with the only difference being the increased number of stream processors; 64 on the GTS and 96 on the GTX. In real world testing, you could expect to see the GTX perform about 20-25% faster.

Here is a quick chart showing the performance before and after optimizations (see the software section for details of what I mean by optimization). I used two of the more demanding and popular games (demo versions) and played through demos using FRAPS to record the performance.

Crysis Demo
Out of the box
Max	Avg
63	27.905
Optimized
Max	Avg
63	28.424

Crysis runs well at 1440x900 with no anti-aliasing (AA) and medium settings across the board. There is the occasional dip into the danger zone (lower than 24 FPS) but that did not bother me too much. Character models were amazing, but the environments were bland. Boosting some of the texture, model, shader and effect settings to high made a huge difference and I quickly realized what the fuss was about. But the FX really struggled to play the game at those settings (as most computers would).

Call of Duty 4
Out of the box
Min	Max	Avg
23	114	48.153
Optimized
Min	Max	Avg
17	15	46.396

Call of Duty 4 looked amazing. Settings were maxed out at 1440x900 and 4x AA. I actually found the overall visual experience in CoD4 superior to Crysis. Character models were almost as good and the environments looked better.

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In short, you should have little difficulty running any of the latest games on this notebook. Games from a year ago will run with everything maxed out. And games such as Half Life 2 or Oblivion that have user community created realism modifications where the original textures and geometry are enhanced, might be worth revisiting.

Video output is available via HDMI and VGA. HDMI output of 1080p video to an HDTV should allow you to enjoy World of Warcraft and Half Life 2 - both games that the Nvidia 8800M GTS should handle easily. HDCP is supported on the HDMI port for playback of protected content. With the current specification, high definition content is more likely to come in the form of downloads as there is no high definition optical media option on the FX and the drive is not easily replaced.

Screen

The 17" screen runs a 1440x900 pixel resolution. This is about the minimum tolerable resolution for a screen this big and probably does not offer enough room for productive video or photo editing. The benefit of the lower dots per inch is that the screen is easily read even by old eyes like mine. Brightness is excellent and contrast when reading text is great. On a pure black background and in a dark room, there is noticeable light bleed. Black never seems black enough. In a dark LAN Party environment this might be a distraction.

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Viewing angle is poor. The above scenes from Empire Strike Back exemplify the problem. You need to be relatively square to the FX in order to enjoy the screen.

Mounted in the LCD bezel is a 1.3 megapixel webcam. I tested it with the Gateway software utility (kind of useless) and Skype 3.6. It worked fine in both cases. Low light conditions produced a grainy image which is common for lower end webcams.

Storage

Storage is another area that sets the FX apart. The multi-DVD writer is nothing new, even with its LightScribe-like laser label etching feature. Where the FX is different is in the empty SATA drive bay that sits next to the 250 GB Western Digital 5400 rpm HDD. The installed WD 250 GB drive is partitioned with a 10 GB recovery area and about 220 GB free for the OS to use.

Intel's Matrix storage driver can tie these drives together in a variety of RAID configurations but the FX uses an Intel ICH8M SATA controller. If I am reading the Specs right, we need the ICH8ME for RAID support. If I have time, I may attempt a clean install with a second drive present and see if I can configure RAID. Doing so might be a bit of a headache without a plain Vista install disk and setup utility. But there is no denying how fast I/O on this notebook would be using two fast drives in a RAID 0 configuration.

HD Tune result:

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Intel Matrix Storage Console:

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Heat

All this power comes at a cost, besides being larger and heavier the FX gets hotter and correspondingly louder. You will notice this most when playing games that tax the hardware. Heat is concentrated on the left side near the vent. Exhaust from this area can get pretty hot, and that might trouble a left handed gamer who likes to mouse southpaw style. Other than this one hot spot, the FX cooling system does a good job of keeping remaining area a comfortable temperature.

Battery

Gateway sells the FX with a feeble battery. Amusingly, when installed it protrudes from the back of the FX as if it were an extended battery. This battery lasted 1:21 running Battery Eater Pro before the 10% battery warning. I also managed to get 59 minutes (almost to the second) playing Crysis.

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Wireless

I was happy to see Intel's 4965AGN wireless chip. That gives you lots of choice for connectivity. An GigE port is ready and waiting too if you should need it. Heck, there is even a modem port. Next to the WiFi mini-PCIe card is a vacant mini-PCIe slot for future use (WiMax perhaps). Although I can't think of what I would install in there, it is good to have the option.

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Bluetooth 2.0 with enhanced data rate (EDR) is present for short distance wireless connections. This was smart thinking on Gateway's part. Sure, you will be able to sync your PDA and phone to this laptop, but you will also be able to use BT keyboards, mice and game controllers. That should come in handy for anyone planning to connect this to an HDTV and use it as a Mediacenter or Game Console extraordinaire. Widcomm's Bluetooth software stack provides great control over the hardware - it does a better job than the Windows driver.

Audio

Audio is Intel's HD soft audio coupled with an IDT DAC capable of 16 bit audio at 96 kHz. Audio input and output are handled by a couple of side mounted jacks (3.5 mm). Speaker volume was good, and the quality was certainly acceptable for gaming. Digital (two channel) audio will be carried over HDMI. Lack of 5.1 output might penalize the FX in the eyes of media center fans.

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Input/output ports on the FX are a bit sparse. In particular there are only three USB 2.0 ports. These are supplemented by a Firewire, PC Card slot and a Flash Memory reader (SD/MMC/MS and xD).

Keyboard

The keyboard was great. It feels like a good full sized PC keyboard which should be great news for touch typists. It has a few unusually shaped keys on the right hand side. The FX size also allows Gateway to include a full sized numeric keypad - great for gamers. Above the keyboard are a series of media buttons and touch sensitive volume adjustment. The Touchpad worked great too after turning off the cha-chas (scroll, tap zones, etc.).

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Software

Like most consumer notebooks the Gateway is plugged up with trial ware and ad ware. I still don't know why companies continue to do this. Contrary to common sense people must be responding to it otherwise PC makers would not bother. Whoever you are, stop it.

There is no room on a gaming notebook for Net Zero and AOL trial offers - maybe an offer for low ping service from AT&T or Verizon would make sense. Everything else about this notebook hits the target, but these sorts of generic offers targeted at susceptible luddites are way off base. A preload of Valve's Steam (HL2 and Portal), some tech demos or benchmarks and maybe a few exclusive demos would be OK if Gateway really feels the need to include software. This would make it easier to demo in store. A clean install of Vista with the latest drivers would be even better.

With 3 GB of RAM you would not expect to encounter any problems with memory. On starting the FX up I ran the task manager and watched the memory usage as the notebook sat idle. Over the course of 27 minutes its memory footprint went from an already high 970 MB to 1.23 GB.

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That is insane. Ten-minute file copies for text files (seriously), constant UAC interruptions and constant mysterious pauses are not appropriate on notebooks like the FX. It just serves to remind what a giant pile of disappointment Vista is. Microsoft, in honor of that reviled OS of yesteryear, should have named Vista XP ME instead. This OS is worthy of your contempt. I think Gateway needs to have custom install images created for this line with lots of the basic optimizations already done.

With the right mount of sweat equity you can get Vista to actually perform as you direct it. Following the Blackvipers Vista tweak guide (http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/supertweaks.htm) I was able to achieve much better Windows performance and a reduced memory footprint of 700 MB right after reboot. I also installed the Nvidia Forceware 169.28 series driver. There was a barely perceptible improvement in Crysis and a decrease in Call of Duty 4 performance. Overclocking and some driver trial and error should squeeze another 10-15% out if you really want to push things.

Vista Home Premium's inclusion of Media Center might come in handy for FX owners given the notebook's HDMI port and HD ready video system. Install another HDD and you could lug quite a media library around with you ... or stream it from another PC over 802.11n.

The remainder of the software, whether it's the Norton trial or webcam utility, is uninspiring and will likely be uninstalled by the FX owner at the earliest convenience. A good 30 minutes of uninstalling awaits you.

Conclusion

Seeing this kind of performance from an attractive and upgradable $1,400 notebook should make the boutique notebook makers more than a little nervous. Especially considering that it can run cicles around many of last year's SLI notebooks even with its lowly processor.

If this notebook was completely closed, with major components soldered on, at this price it would still be a good deal. But Gateway is offering so much more. The CPU is upgradable. Extra mini-PCIe and Hard Drive bays sit empty, waiting for you to fill them with some future goodness. And peering deep into the FX's innards, I could faintly see another socket exactly where I expect the GPU to be - so there might be some pleasant surprises for the more adventurous hardware tweaker. In short, this is a notebook that should see even an avid gamer get two years of use from. Consider the rapid pace of game development and you will appreciate the compliment.

To underline the FX's value proposition, a store bought custom PC with similar specs comes out to $100-150 less than this notebook.

At about $325, the new Intel T9300 Penryn CPU would bring the FX in line with much more expensive gaming notebooks from specialty manufacturers and makes the most sense as an upgrade. Why spend $200 on a small improvement when $300 will deliver a meaningful one? A T9300 should really allow the GPU to spread its wings. The FX is a good performer with plenty of untapped potential.

With the inclusion of a CPU upgrade, total price is about $1,700 (irrespective of sales, rebates and resale value of the T5450). Only an 8800 SLI configuration will offer a noticeably better gaming experience. Faster RAM (800 MHz) would also be a good idea. With RAM prices dropping it is better to postpone the RAM upgrade.

Everything else being equal, I will take a fast GPU over a fast CPU. This is especially true if the CPU is socketed. In this case both processors may be upgradable - although GPU upgrades tend to be iffy due to lack of available upgrade parts. Still, the FX offers a lot of room to grow and for that Gateway deserves credit.

Gateway's standard one year warranty will likely be voided by many FX owners as they have fun modding their purchase. As long as they educate themselves a bit before they do so, these folks will be fine. Communities like www.notebookreview.com can help (there is already lots of discussion on this particular notebook).

Gateway's FX is a really great value. If you are in the market for a portable gaming rig, you owe it to yourself to have a close look at the Gateway 6831FX. Notebook gaming at this high a level has never been so affordable. In knocking this home run out of the park, Gateway has completely stripped the skin off the ball.

Pros

• Excellent specifications (great performance per dollar)
• Very upgradable - access to components without a complete tear-down
• Attractive and well-made
• Highly targeted at the PC gamer (gets it mostly right)

Cons

• Put aside some money for an eventual CPU upgrade
• Poorly thought out disk image (too much bloatware)

 

Thx for a very good review. Thats one really good laptop for a REALLY good price. I wish them would be selling them in sweden.

 

Nice review Perry! This really is quite amazing on the price front, right now you can only get it at Best Buy in the U.S. and it sounds like that's the same case in Canada. It seems to me that the sum of the parts inside this laptop are worth more than the price on the shelf.

 

Thanks for the review. This laptop is an amazing deal. But there's one thing I don't understand: why doesn't Gateway put a better CPU in this thing, say, a T7500, and even if they raise price to around $1600 or $1700, it's still a very good deal.

 

Thanks for the review!
Although wxga+ sounds like a little bit too low for a 17" LCD.

 

Gateway makes a couple of FX models above this one that have the faster CPUs but they are a lot more money ($1900 or $2000).

I am trying to revive some old marketing contacts at Intel to see if I can score a sample Penryn CPU to install in this. It isn't looking good right now though as my pals have moved around a bit.

[edit] Late editions to the review:

Page 54 of the manual outlines how to do RAID.

The restore disk is a proper install DVD.

This notebook has an Express Card Type 54.

I used the word 'great' three times when describing the keyboard (and mixed tenses too). This keyboard is really great though.

 

What I'd like to see is the intermediate model, the one with Penryn and WUXGA screen .

 

Wish i was in the market for a new notebook, whether i wanted to game or not i think this would be it!

 

Empty PCIe slot next to the wireless card could be for 3rd party vendors like Verizon's and ATT's broadband wireless cards.

 

Great review.
LOL...I like the size comparison between this notebook and the EEE PC
Gateway should give at least WSXGA+ resolution and improve screen quality, anyway, it's a decent budget notebook with amazing GPU.

 

Yeah, or WiMax which Intel is pushing hard. I have a hard time imagining EVDO, HSDPA and WiMax vendors selling miniPCIe cards in America, but it would be cool.

Peering into the chassis it looks like the GPU is socketed too, but I can't be sure.

 

They have WUXGA for the other two notebooks (FX series).

 

Hopefully, these Gateway models will help tear down the "gaming premium" paradigm so many boutique companies enjoy, and bring prices down to more realistic levels. The Voodoos, Alienwares, and Dell XPSs of the world. Kiss your high margins goodbye!

 

Those margins must be REALLY high. I am sure Gateway is happy to sell you this at $1350.

Maybe the margin comes from the increased support costs associated with open drivers and a mod friendly policy. I was thinking about this when considering why Gateway does not let you use any Forceware driver (you have to mod the INF).

 

+1 for the thorough review.

The lower/lowly CPU doesn't bother me too much given that its upgradeable. I think only 3 USB ports is a bit stingy though.

 

Thats quite nice for $1300, I cant believe they managed to get an 8800gts in there and keep the price reasonable.

 

Very nice review, like to see this budget enthusiast trend in the future.

 

wow, thanks for the nice review...

never really consider gateway in the past...

let's hope acer keeps the fx series in the future...

but at this price point and the potential for upgrades, this is just like the dell inspiron 1700 back then, affordable gaming laptop that's upgrable...

i am sure it will be popular once those laptop gamers found out about this. it will be an nice upgrade path from the old centrino pentium-M 7800gtx combo to this...

tks

sg

 

Gateway did the right thing with the CPU, as it is the only way to keep the cost in check.

 

very nice review!

Hopefully I can upgrade the CPU and maybe switch the battery if that's possible to one that doesn't stick out to look so horrendously. Just one question. Does it get hot around the left hand palm area? or just the vents on the left side?

 

Curious about the RAID possibility, seeing the included drive is a 250GB WD, I have a new WD scorpio 250GB drive laying around and was thinking of setting it up in a RAID config. First do the 2 drives need to be Identical or will these 2 work? 2nd is the 2nd drive in the photo an empty enclosure just competing a circuit?

 

hey i was wondering that a 1.67 speed processor can run all those games smoothly? what is the point in getting a faster processor then? I got a 2.2ghz on my dell but now if this 1.67 can run those games i would have rather saved some money and just get a slower speed

 

The vent gets hot. Or more accurately the air coming out does. The surface is cool to the touch. The thermal characteristics are really good.

 

They are huge margins. North of 25%. One of the other reasons why they able to get away with selling at a premium is because PC gamers tend to be big spenders who like bragging rights. And they upgrade often. And since you can't readily build a gaming laptop like you could a gaming desktop, they command all the more premium.

Personally, I believe that this along with Toshiba's entry later this year with models that sport the 8800GTX will begin to shift the paradigm away from the $4000 rig. There's no justfication for spending $4000+ on a laptop that sure to be obsolete in a year as newer and better technologies become available. $3000 is sort of silly but I might be willing to pay that much if the unit is as potentially upgradeable as this Gateway. $2000 really is the sweet spot.

I know Gateway is coming out with a 8800M GTX version soon with an MSRP of $2000. That should turn the industy on it's ear. Love to see how the hoodwinkers and crooks (Dell XPS, Alienware, Voodoo PC, et al) justify their sky high prices then. They have to know that gamers are more savvy as far as specs go than the average computer user.

In any event, I'm waiting to see how reliable these Gateway units turn out to be. Also if the customer service improves now that they are under Acer's umbrella. Because for the money, these units simply cannot be beat.

BTW, excellent review. Very precise and informative.

 

The drives do not have to be the same, but same size is a good idea or you will waste space on the bigger drive - at least that is how RAID worked the last time I tried it. So yeah, you would be set.

Gateway's specs say that the south bridge in here is the ICH8M E the 'E' means that the chip supports RAID. I have an extra SATA drive kicking around so I will give this a try and report back (with an HD Tune graph).

 

Well yeah, sure if you want to be rational about it...

I think a faster CPU will come in handy for folks wanting to play a lot of Crysis or Supreme Commander. Those games benefit from a beefy CPU.

I'll hold off until May. I am really hoping to get a quad core CPU that will work in this notebook. Its a long shot but there is no pressing need to upgrade so I can wait.

 

Thanks for the nice review. Seems like very good value for money!

 

Very, very good review!

I've always felt that Gateway was a seriously underrated computer brand, and they have proved it once again with this FX notebook. Those specs for that price?! That's a steal!

Now, I certainly agree that the CPU could be better, the screen resolution could be higher, and that the battery could be nicer, but those are rather easy fixes, and while they would certainly raise the price of the machine, I would imagine it would still be a fantastic deal.

The only real issue would be Windows Vista, along with all the free trial BS software that it comes with.

Still, this would be a strong consideration of mine if I were in the market for a new 17" high-performance notebook. If I had to choose, I might even buy this over the new Alienware m15x (maybe even the M17x) simply for the price alone. Plus, I trust Gateway's reliability; my family has had three of their computers (2 notebooks and one desktop), and 2 of them have been great (the exception was the first laptop, but it had a very rough life anyway).

 

Yes, the Acer effect is being felt. I have done a lot of Acer reviews for NBR in the past and have always been impressed.

First, a $799 5920 with 8600M GT and HD-DVD drive (that was a couple of weeks ago at Futureshop/Best Buy).

Now this beast.

 

Just installed the 2nd 250Gb WD the two have slighty different model numbers but hopefully the RAID will still work. Gateways really got something here with all the different ways to set this machine up!

 

Do you happen to know if the battery can be switched for one that's smaller? I mean I'd like to use a smaller one when I'm just going to use plug it into an outlet so that it doesn't stick out so strangely but go back to the bigger one when I need more battery life.

Also, did someone say that the $2000 model comes with a 8800M GTX? If so, I might just need to consider that.

EDIT: Looked it up myself, and they all have the 8800M GTS apparently according to this site: http://www.ad-hoc-news.de/CorporateNews/en/14888582

So, in the end it looks like an extra $600 for a better resolution to me =/ Well, there's the processor is also already Penryn which is convenient, but too bad it's not the 2.5ghz 6mb cache one

 

Awesome! Please let us know how you fare. I would rather spend the weekend playing Neverwinter Nights 2.

 

I would do that too, but I am too cheap to buy the smaller battery.

 

Awesome review Perry. This Gateway is certainly a steal compared to other gaming notebooks from Dell and Alienware because of its excellent price/performance ratio. The 8800M-GTS is a beast of a card and much more powerful than the 8700M-GT. The CPU is not top-of-the-line in this but it is dual-core; with more and more games including multi-CPU support, the lower clockspeed should be less of an issue.

Congratulations on your new rig too.

 

so it IS possible to do right?

 

Of course, only if gateway sells a smaller battery.

 

oh... it has to be their battery? I was under the impression that there was a general form for batteries but apparently I'm wrong.

 

Thanks lewdvig for an excellent in-depth and informative review.

Glad to see Gateway using Nvidia 8800GTS and keeping their gaming units at reasonable prices.

Only time will tell if the Alienware and Dell XPS laptops will follow suit at reasonable prices. (My fingers are NOT cross on that happening too soon or at all.)

If Gateway's FX gaming laptop series prove to be reliable with few complaints and also with great support from customer service and drivers etc., just maybe I'll take other look at Gateway/Acer.

For now, Gateway is doing something right and I'm impress. But again, time will tell if they can keep impressing us after remembering their subpar track record.

 

No, thank you for reminding me to re-watch Fear and Loathing!

 

There is a 6-cell battery advertised on Gateway's site that is compatible with P-series notebooks, however I don't know if the external dimensions are any different than the 9-cell.

 

You bet! LOL!!

Great movie.

 

@ lewdvig: great review, wonderful job

 

so is the lcd suppose to be like that? Corners have light leakage. Bottom to middle has light leakage.

 

The battery life is sorry with those programs like BEP, but I'm wondering what the life of the Gateway is when idled in "power saving" mode. I'm very curious.

 

ohhh I want to see one for myself =] if it prevents the battery from sticking out so much I'd totally buy it. I don't see why it wouldn't be smaller though, wouldn't make sense to me to have them the same size but that's just me.

 

Yeah I want to know more about the screen as well. More pictures from different angles and in an all black screen [just turn on your blank screensaver and shoot away]. We don't want the superb gaming experience, as provided by the awesome GPU, in a gaming laptop get ruined by an ugly screen, do we?

 

I do not have the light bleed mentioned, and the screen looks great better than my Toshiba SLi1. Check out the screen shots of UT3 I posted in the P-6831FX thread in the gaming section page 26, Ut3 looks spectacular!

 

Yeah, in my case it is not a flaw. Just a cheap screen. It looks great when looking at it square. Sitting front of the FX, the screen looks really nice.

 

I'll take some pictures and post them later.

I also want to post a picture of what looks like the video card socket.

 

God, this is a screaming deal. I need to go to Best Buy to check it out soon....Not going to buy it, since I bought a notebook only a couple of months back, but if I was in the market for a gaming laptop, I'd go for nothing other than the FX.