Gateway Intros its First 11.6" Netbook

I'm pretty sure that the VGA port should be able to output a 1080p resolution depending on monitors.

 

Indeed and HDTVs too.

 

meh.. my sharp 52" only supports up to 1600x1200 resolution for VGA x.x wish this had HDMI instead of VGA..

 

Then your looking to spend at least $1100 on a Sony TT(used or open box), but that not really a netbook with its C2D cpu, not to mention price(1800 like base new).

How does the ATI card in this compare to the intel 4500hd card? How does the CPU in this compare to the single core amd neo?

 

So then, what's the verdict on Gateway LT3103u vs Acer 751 ?

 

Gateway has better 3d performance. Acer better video playback (hardware accelerated 1080p H264).

Both are manufactured by the same company and probably use the same 200 nit display. Acer 751 is a lot lighter and has better battery life.

Personally I would run XP on any of these netbooks.

"Windows 7 Versus XP: Which Belongs On Your Netbook? "
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-xp,2339.html

 

Thanks, Phil !

 

no thanks on a $1.1k computer.. I'll continue on waiting for nvidia ion or ati radeon hd 4200 or something like that for netbooks

Yes, both of them are same company, acer aspire one 751h isn't a lot lighter.. it is similar weight if you're using a 6 cell battery. the gateway is just a little over 3 lbs, like 3.04 lbs for the gateway and acer is 3.0 lbs with 6 cell battery. The acer do have better battery life though.


anyways.. a new color is released, red: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9396824&type=product&id=1218099043959

 

Are you sure that number of the Gateway is with 6 cell?

Here in the Netherlands it was quoted as 1.3kg for the Acer, 1.6 for the Gateway.

 

from Bestbuy.com Product Weight 3 lbs.
source: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9396824&type=product&id=1218099043959
from Gateway.com Weight 3.04 lbs. (1.38 kg) system unit only / 3.93 lbs. (1.78 kg.) box
source: http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668268.php

 

The only advantage of the GMA500 in the Aspire One 751 is that it plays back certain videos well - but it won't play back Flash videos or Hulu any better, and I'm pretty sure the Gateway can play 720p with hardware acceleration as well - I know that 720p videos are a slideshow on my NC10 with GMA950 - I tried out a benchmark 720p video downloaded from Youtube in MP4 format and it was bad.

Really, the competition is between the 1.6 Ghz Atom and the 1.2 Ghz Athlon64, not the 1.2 Ghz Atom.

 

Had a feeling on that. But I doubt those will get HDMI port. It be really interesting to see an ion based netbook with an Atom cpu(pref dual core) and hdmi port.

So is this AMD cpu suppose to compare to the CLUV cpu or atom? Or the CLUV going against AMD Neo line?

 

It plays all H264 content (mkv, avi, mov) 720p and 1080p 100% smooth. Since H264 is, afaik, going to be the most used HD codec it's not a small thing. GMA500 is the only netbook that can do that.

Neither Atom Z520, N280 nor Athlon 64 will play 720p Flash smooth. Atom Z520 is enough for SD youtube though. Based on the user reports the Athlon in the Gateway is not.

Could be true, I am not sure though.

I guess it has to do with your setup. 720p should play fine on your NC10 with XP, CoreAVC and MCP, installed in the right way. I use this guide.

I don't think Athlon 64 is real competition for Atom. Based on the user reports it uses more power and performs less.

I do see one big benefit of the Athlon coming to this market: Intel is already allowing N280 in 11.6" 1366*768 netbooks.

 

Exactamundo! Competition is always good.

 

TVs typically don't support 1080p over VGA, even if monitors can.

 

Not really important but I read about some Philips and Samsung models that can accept 1080p over VGA.

 

Now that I've had the Gateway for a couple of days, I am really pleased - I don't think I could go back to a netbook with a smaller screen and keyboard. I'm not a power user and it seems to do all I want and is really cool in the bargain.
One issue - I'm having trouble connecting and staying connected to my home network - it's much less able to get the signal than my older compaq presario in the same locations. I do get connected in certain areas, though. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the Gateway having G wireless and my router is an Linksys N model. Any ideas?
thanks

 

or is it your problem? or maybe the OS that you might not have used before? xD
i never had any problem connecting to my wifi from my acer which has the same wifi card as the gateway.

 

I just called the Geeks at Best Buy where I bought the Gateway, and they said it could just be that the wireless card in the netbook may not be as good as what is in my Compaq. They suggested getting a USB wireless N adaptor as the most practical solution. That's another expense, though, and the reviews of those USB adaptors vary all over the place.

 

i would just go buy another wifi card mini pci-e on eBay instead of buying a USB from best buy for overprice.

 

OK - so tell me more - what kind, how does it mount, this is new to me. I'm all ears!

 

there are like 2 screws at the bottom of your netbook.
should be similar to like my acer..

which should have a card like this in one of the access panel

go to ebay or somewhere and look for "mini pci-e" card in networking section

 

Yeah they would tell you to buy a $50 WiFi adapter from them.

Look in your wireless adapter settings and see if you can boost the transmit power, typically that's available in the device settings.

 

Try downloading a driver directly from the manufacturer of your wireless card (broadcom, atheros etc.). Sometimes a different driver does wonders.

 

the driver would most likely be atheros, same pci-e card as the acer as far as i know.

 

Actually, they want me to buy a $90 adapter from them, but I take your point!

 

Best Buy usually rips people off you're better off buying from newegg.com (ordering online) or if you have a local Fry's, look for some cheap ones.

 

I was thinking the same thing so I took it apart. The processor sits on a socket S1 as indicated on CPUZ. It's labeled AMML110HAX4DN, AMD Athlon.

I'm looking for a X2 processor now. Might try a cheapo off of EBAY. Maybe the BIOS and chipset will recognize it. Wish there was info on this CPU so I can compare the wattage. Right now I have mine on 0.750v at 1.2ghz, not sure how much wattage it's using.

 

So this thing can't even handle YouTube/Hulu? I am in the market for a laptop and am researching very carefully. This one I think I'll be getting.

I'd be playing a HD file in 720p, not flash. Apparently that runs well on this. Going to check it out at Best Buy after work tomorrow.

 

AMD HAX

hahaha.

Best of luck with your lunatic endeavors!

 

Hahaha, funny guy. Sounds like you have some ideas, spit it out.

What's so funny? Unrealistic, undoable, stupid? What's up with the processor? You've got all the details about this computer?

Or are you trying to be funny because of the "HAX?" A lot of AMD models are labeled that way.

 

Yeah, I found the HAX in the code funny.

 

All right , but I'm considering what I'm trying as an "upgrade." Will get my X2 some time next week, so I will post if it works (for the curious ones).

 

Why should one get this over the HP DV2 other than battery life?

 

you should take apart the netbook first before purchasing the cpu.. and confirm if the cpu is removable or not.

price and weight.

 

And even so, better hope the cooling system can handle that little pup.

 

Scroll up a bit, I already took it apart. And yes I have considered the cooling the BIOS and the chipset. The chip is only costing me $18; if it doesn't work, oh well.

If I can underclock and undervolt a mobile dual core to 1.0ghz I'd be happy. It looks like the L110 is 13 watts so it will be a challenge (if one at all). I'd like to be cheap and light (and a little more power). I've had and used other ultra-portable and this one I like, especially the screen.

 

So the L110 has a TDP of 13 watts, what about the CPU you want to replace it with?

 

heh.. have fun hacking the netbook.. i don't see the BIOS being able to undervolt it or something x.x I'll be guessing you'll replace it with amd athlon 64 x2? or turion?

 

Is Smepron using the same socket and stuff as the Turion, 64 x2 and this cpu?

 

i am not sure about amd cpu, well i'm not sure about notebook cpus.. i only keep track of desktop cpu since i don't bother upgrading netbooks/notebooks

 

yeah same here, that why i asked. Also I know the 64 X2 at least on desktops are either socket 939 or AM2, is that the same for laptops? If so I know on my 939 machine(64 x2 cpu) the cooling unit was kind of larger since it produced a good amount of heat.

 

maybe looking at amd's website might help/ lol

 

check notebookcheck.net they may have that info.

 

gateway may have some competition http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/medion-rolls-out-amd-based-akoya-mini-e1312-netbook/1#c19925668

 

thanks for posting. I think Gateway is for US, while Medion is for Europe only.

But the Gateway is sold in Europe under the Packard Bell brand name. So it's Packard Bell that got competition

 

The more 11 inch notebooks the better. I hope others follow suit. Really wish someone would put out an 11 inch notebook with nvidia 9400 and a real processor under 1000.00.

 

I agree .

 

You go man. If you succeed, I'm going to try it. Which processor did you order? I'm thinking about taking the QL-62 out of my sister-in-law's old laptop. It's the lowest TDP (25W) socket S1 processor I can find. The TK-42 is 20W, but I can't find it anywhere.

I went to best buy today to play with it. I really liked it. Keyboard is comfortable, great screen, decent size. Battery makes the thing a bit heavy for its size, but still loads lighter than anything of comparable price and power.

I wonder if you can manually adjust the fan speed. That might help the thing keep up with the 25W processor. The big leap though will be if the motherboard recognizes and properly clocks the processor.

 

I am with you on that. So, far the only one that kind of comes close is the Sony Vaio TT, but that can cost $1600 new and only has an intel GPU. Same with the Lenovo U110 that has the older intel x3100 gpu, but that can be had for $1000 new. Now if some one manages to do that, or at least bring one out with a C2D cpu, and either 9300, ION, or some equal ATI card(or what ever the next gen brings out), I am trading in my TT for that.