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    Eurocom Tornado F5 (MSI 16L13) Review

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Jan 31, 2017.

  1. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Canada-based Eurocom customizes and sells everything from gaming notebooks to mobile workstations. Their new Tornado F5 is a 15.6-inch gaming notebook with a twist. It uses socketed desktop-class processors, rather than their mobile equivalents, and has options for up to the Nvidia’s flagship GeForce GTX 1080 graphics cad. We’ve seen 15.6-inch notebooks with the GeForce GTX 1070, but this is the first time we’re seeing the GTX 1080 in a chassis smaller than 17.3 inches.

    This notebook has some of the best end-user upgradeability we’ve seen, and packs a tremendous amount of power. It may not win many design awards, but it’s king of the hill when it comes to performance in a 15.6-inch chassis.

    Read the full content of this Article: http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/eurocom-tornado-f5-msi-16l13-review/
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    So nice review as usual @Charles P. Jefferies but what's up with those temps?

    So is it holding clocks at temps that high? And did you get to try undervolting at all? Those temps are... I mean the cpu is just awful, not only is it 100C but it's a desktop chip too. I wonder if a 6700k would run cooler.
     
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  3. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Thanks.
    The temps were a little high, see here in the MSI forum where I provided more details, including a GPU-Z log.
    According to the owners/some vendors of this machine, de-lidding is borderline required to run the "K" series CPUs without high temps, and re-pasting/undervolting is a must. I think the paste was fine on our review unit, so an undervolt would have probably gone a long way.
    I've also been told the Core i7-7700K runs fine at 100 deg. C. Our review unit seems to be evidence of that.

    Charles
     
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    Careful with too much undervolt chief. From my experience with a few 7700Ks that weren't so great (as in overheating), a safe undervolt would be -40mV or -50mV, anything above that, I've seen it happen on 2 systems, 1 which was my own with m 7700K, the CPU would suddenly start reaching 100C within seconds of running anything CPU intensive like a stress test and would never be fixed even after you remove the undervolt, seems to cause some sort of damage to the CPU unlike with the 6700K you were free to tinker with undervolting as much as you want and the only bad thing that would happen is a crash so you would then decrease the undervolt to stabalize it

    just thought of warning you.

    Also, another thing which helped greatly with the temps on my Clevo P870DM3, I know your BIOS options may be different but there was a setting in the Prema BIOS called Voltage Auto Optimization, setting that to Auto rather than disabled actually helped tame the temps.
     
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    keftih Notebook Evangelist

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    Wait, so an undervolt can cause the 7700K to flip out and cause damage? :eek:
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It'll run for a year give or take before finally dying.
     
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    I've seen it on 3 7700Ks so far, one was mine. the damage was irreversible and those CPUs had to go back to Intel
     
  8. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I'll keep that in mind. That's really strange, I don't remember undervolting being risky (other than system stability) with other generations of Intel CPUs. Thanks for the heads-up though.

    Charles