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    DirectX 10 port for XP users... teenage coder reverses MS engineers DX10 API

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by mikeymike, May 1, 2007.

  1. mikeymike

    mikeymike Notebook Evangelist

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    There was another post somewhere about some teen coder and his Alky Project. I couldnt find it.
    Well looks like his claims have gotten some legs and is starting to show up in diff places.


    http://www.tech.co.uk/computing/sof...ort-for-windows-xp-users?articleid=1926096380


    i like the last line the best..... "If the project does end up offering anything approaching full functionality, Microsoft will have some serious explaining to do."
     
  2. cy007

    cy007 Notebook Deity

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    Never going to happen... even if it really works. Knowing Microsoft, the guy's going to be sued or forced to stopping the project before anything is finalized.
     
  3. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    As Microsoft learned in the FairUse DRM stripping tools, there is nothing wrong with reverse engineering how it should work. Legally, MS cannot do a thing as this guy isn't using any 'stolen' MS proprietary code.

    I think that is MS were to stop this, everyone would call MS on it for trying to force Vista down everyones throats. Because if DX10 can actually be ported to XP, for some there is no reason to upgrade. And MS likes their upgrades...
     
  4. furrycute

    furrycute Notebook Evangelist

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    This is not the first time Microsoft has made one of their "impossibility" claims.

    Remember how "impossible" it was to separate IE from the rest of the Windows OS? Yeah right!
     
  5. Paul

    Paul Mom! Hot Pockets! NBR Reviewer

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    Night is correct. Reverse engineering and DRM subverting is legal as long as it's just proof-of-concept. If he doesn't try to distribute it or market it, he's completely in the clear. And in reality, that's all he has to do. All he has to do is prove it, and then Microsoft gets to do the rest.
     
  6. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hmmm. I was always under the impression that Microsoft could port DX10 over to XP, but they simply don't want to. It is the easiest way to hinder continued use of XP in favor of Vista.
     
  7. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    There is nothing technically preventing DX10 from running on XP. It's a business decision.

    I wish the coder and his team the best of luck, though I doubt much will come of it.