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    Detailed Specs for Santa Rosa Lenovo ThinkPad T61 and R61 Listed on IBM Site

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Andrew Baxter, Apr 24, 2007.

  1. Andrew Baxter

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    IBM.com now lists all of the information for upcoming ThinkPad T61 and ThinkPad R61 notebooks due out in May.

    Updated: the IBM pages above have been taken down, the specs for the T61 can still be found in a PDF downloaded from the T61 page however: Lenovo ThinkPad T61 PDF Specs, more specs can be found on an IBM site here

    Lenovo ThinkPad T61

    According to the information listed on the site, the ThinkPad T61 will have the following new features over the current ThinkPad T60:

    • New Core 2 Duo (64-bit) processors with up to 2.4 GHz clock speed
    • New Intel GM/PM965 chipset
    • Choose a new 32- or 64-bit Vista or XP Professional operating system
    • Improved wireless LAN (WLAN) and wireless WAN (WWAN) communications
    • Faster hard drives available
    • Selected models with Intel Turbo Card for improved performance (Robson technology)
    • Full hard disk encryption available
    • Balance of performance and portability with NVIDIA graphics
    • Top cover LCD roll cage
    • New four-in-one media card reader on selected models
    • Integrated SmartCard reader on selected models
    • IEEE 1394a
    • Latest NVIDIA discrete graphics offerings
    • SmartCard on select models
    • Dimensions of 14.1&quot; widescreen system: Width: 335 mm (13.2 in) x Depth: 237 mm (9.3 in) x Height: 27.6 to 31.9 mm (1.09 to 1.26 in)
    • Weight for 14.1&quot; widescreen: As light as 5lb

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    The site lists some example machine configurations, it appears that there are only widescreen versions of the T61 listed, an example config for the Australia region is:

    • Lenovo ThinkPad T61
    • 14.1-inch WXGA TFT (1280 x 800)
    • Bluetooth wireless technology
    • Integrated Fingerprint Reader
    • Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7300
    • Mobile Intel PM965 Express Chipset
    • NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M
    • 120 GB / 5400 rpm
    • DVD Recordable
    • 1 GB Memory
    • Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
    • 6-cell battery
    • IEEE 1394
    • Express Card
    • Microsoft Windows Vista Business

    There are no listings of 15.4&quot; screen versions of the ThinkPad T61 on the site, though we would expect such a machine to be available at launch. The fact that there are only widescreen 14.1&quot; screen options listed for the T61 is interesting, Lenovo did not do a version of the T60 14.1&quot; in wide but it appears they're now going all out with the widescreen option.

    Also interesting is seeing the Intel Turbo Memory feature being offered, this will essentially be a form of hybrid hard drive in which 1GB of flash memory will be used to supplement hard drive performance -- a nice feature given the fact Windows Vista has slow boot-up.

    Lenovo ThinkPad R61

    According to the information on IBM.com the ThinkPad R61 will also be offered in a 14.1&quot; widescreen format. Below are listed the new features for the ThinkPad R61:

    • Intel Core 2 Duo (64-bit) processorsup to 2.4 GHz — T7100, T7300, T7500, T7700
    • New Intel GM/PM965 chipset (Speedy 800 MHz front-side bus (FSB), up to 4 MB L2 cache)
    • Next generation of wireless LAN (WLAN) performance through 802.11n 2x3 MIMO
    • 1 GB Ethernet LAN, Bluetooth, modem
    • 14.1-inch wide screen
    • Hard drives for different needs: Up to 160 GB, 5400 rpm / Up to 100 GB, 7200 rpm / Intel Turbo Memory Card boosts performance (select models) / Full disk encryption provides security
    • Graphics: New NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M (128 MB) discrete graphics
    • Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 graphics for clear images
    • Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG LAN, Intel wireless 4945AGN LAN, or ThinkPad 11a/b/g<sup>6</sup> WLAN card
    • UltraConnect II antenna to help optimize frequency coverage and performance for improved WLAN connectivity around the world, when used with compatible options
    • Widescreen 358-mm (14.1-in) with WXGA (1280 x 8000) or WXGA+ (1400 x 900) resolution TFT display 358-mm (14.1-in)
    • Ultrabay for fast and easy hot- and warm-swapping of selected options
    • 4-in-1 multi card reader
    • FireWire IEEE 1394
    • Dimensions of 14.1&quot; widescreen system: Width: 335.5 mm (13.2 in) x Depth: 237 mm (9.3 in) x Height: 30.0 to 34.9 mm (1.20 to 1.37 in)
    • Weight for 14.1&quot; widescreen: 5.2lbs

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    Again, the site lists various example configurations for different regions of the world, an example for the Australia / New Zealand region is as follows:

    • ThinkPad R61 774212M 7742
    • 14.1- inch WXGA+ TFT (1440x900)
    • Bluetooth wireless technology
    • Integrated Fingerprint Reader
    • Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7500
    • Mobile Intel PM965 Express Chipset
    • NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M
    • Hard Drive: 120GB / 5400 rpm,
    • DVD Recordable
    • Memory: 2GB (2x1GB)
    • Intel PRO/Wireless WiFi 4965AGN
    • FireWire IEEE 1394
    • 4-1 Multi-Card Reader
    • Microsoft Windows Vista Business 64

    Wrapping it up

    So basically the story is The T61 and R61 are coming with planned availability dates of the following:

    • May 2007 for initial rollout of the widescreen 14.1&quot; versions
    • Models with NVIDIA graphics and Microsoft Vista 64-bit or XP Pro will be available July 2007.
    • Models with 160 GB (5400 rpm) FDE hard drives will be available July 2007.
    • Models with Blu-ray DVD burner will be available July 2007.

    So the rollout will be gradually over a couple of months for various configurations to be available. Intel Santa Rosa and new Nvidia graphics cards will be part of the mix. The widescreen domination continues, as Lenovo has now shifted to making this the first release for their new series. Other new features include Intel Turbo Memory, a rollcage for the lid, Blu-Ray available in the R61, integrated media card reader and FireWire. For more information on everything from warranty to heat and power dissipation just visit IBM.com:

     
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  2. mujtaba

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    Hmmmm,
    There is no sign of the said X1800 or the FireGL V5250 in any of them.
    Hopefully better GPU's will turn up.
     
  3. jtanwanteng

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    yikes, who wants a x1800 in there? it would suck your battery dry in about 3 seconds.

    I would like extremely good gfx performance however... where does the quadro nvs 140m stand?
    is it better than a 7600/7700? If this is the same chip as the recently released 8600GTS (7900gs/x1950pro class performance), then: omg Lenovo has created the perfect laptop.
     
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    great, thanks for info!
     
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    still no 17 inch screen in Lenovo ?
    I guess it is really hard for Lenovo to make own die-cast for biger screens
     
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    does anyone have any idea if these laptops have HDMI or at least DVI output? So much new technology and it would really suck if they stick with VGA
     
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    I do not believe they will have HDMI or DVI output. Those are more for the multimedia user, which Lenovos aren't meant for (rather business).

    One thing I did find out is that the nVidia Quadro NVS140M that is on the T/R 61s is that it is based upon the G86, which is similar to the low end of the GeForce 8 series, which means that chances are it will be slightly if not a lot more powerful than the 128MB X1400 current ATi solution.

    I wonder where they are going to stick this media card reader... there's no where really to put it ?

    UltraConnect II... does that mean we get more antennas?

    I thought someone had said they'd be coming with 1680x1050 14.1" as an option? No? Booo =[...

    I really wonder how durable/effective/useful the "top LCD roll cage" is...

    EDIT: After looking at the pic, it appears
    - The T61 has an option for a webcam? COOL!
    - ThinkLight has been moved to the left of the webcam... kind of "destroys the 'balanced' look" =[
    - The UltraConnect II antenna(s) probably are below this webcam, as you can see the 'ribbed' strip above the screen, which actually makes the whole screen look smaller as that looks like about a 1 inch thick top frame... is that a bad thing for cosmetics?
    - The media card reader probably is on the left side, as nothing looks changed/new on the right
    - The front now has audio jacks instead of them being on the side! (I actually liked it being on the side =[ )
    - The mic has been moved from the lower left corner of the keyboard to the right of the touchpad buttons
    - Touchpad still is on the small side =[
    - Logo plate has changed to "ThinkPad T series" - i believe some current new Lenovo owners have seen this change already
    - Speakers have been moved to the sides, which means that either the keyboard has been moved forward or /gasp the touchpad actually IS bigger?

    I cannot really talk for the R61's changes, as I do not have an R60
     
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    They would have that in the docking station, there's no integrated HDMI or DVI.
     
  9. acaurora

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    I'm still waiting on a good deal for the docking station for my T60, now that you mention it. I would love to hook up my T60 to my 22" Widescreen ;)
     
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    Hmmm... a Thinkpad with nVidia graphics? Sounds like the perfect Linux laptop!

    Seriously though, if they're going with nVidia graphics and a 14" widescreen format, I just might be tempted to jump on board with a Thinkpad T61.
     
  11. TechGuy

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    So Stupid Question of the Day Time: What's the difference between the T61 and the R61?

    The R seems 0.2lbs heavier... annnnnd... that's all I got from the specs posted.

    Both Core 2 Duo up to 2.4Ghz
    Both Intel GM/PM965
    Both 14.1" widescreen
    Both have "faster hard drives available"
    Both have "Latest NVIDIA discrete graphics offerings"

    A little help?

    Also, any word on a solid SSD?
     
  12. ejl

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    the r series isn't as sturdily built as the t series. also, from what is listed, it seems like the r series won't have the optionf for robson.
     
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    I want a T61 with integrated graphics for better battery life.

    Also, why are these notebooks posted on IBM's website and not Lenovo's?
     
  14. Gautam

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    Wow, so it's a full refresh then!
     
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    it looks like the speaker panels have been moved to the top. But if this T61 is the same size as T60, wouldn't this mean smaller keyboard?

    I am not sure if the picture is authentic.

    edit: never mind. This looks like the wide-screen editions.
     
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    sp00n, it's a leak, Lenovo has not gone public with this.
     
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    This looks pretty promising. Hopefully, a -p variant for the T61 will turn up. The release of the dedicated graphics card version is slated for July 2007?

    Edit: And is that a webcam I see in the pictures? ^_^
     
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    I would assume because the Thinkpad line is owned by IBM, they just contract out Lenovo to build and sell them (or maybe the own Lenovo, I'm not sure...). That's why Thinkpads still have IBM written on the lid.
     
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    An IBM/Lenovo/ThinkPad expert could clarify this for sure, but I'm pretty sure it's the opposite of what you described.

    As I recall, IBM completely sold their PC and ThinkPad business to Lenovo. I think part of the deal though was that Lenovo got to keep putting the IBM logo on the ThinkPads for a specific period of time (probably so as not to totally freak out ThinkPad owners) until people got used to the idea of ThinkPads being Lenovo products and not IBM products.

    I don't think that IBM has anything to do with them any more, but presumably they are still selling them, etc. which is why I would guess they are on the IBM site.
     
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    Oh. Well, I've never really followed the Thinkpad line, so I'll just take your word for it.
     
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    I can definitely see ZaZ and Andrew going nuts for these two notebooks :)
     
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    No doubt that these will be great machines and major sellers. That said, I'm happy I saved the $ and ordered a current T60. There's nothing on the new model that's so groundbreaking as to make me disappointed with the current model.
     
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    Looks evolutionary. Some people will like having the IEEE 1394 and the card reader. Some of the ultra clean looks have gone out the window here. All in all it is just a step, mostly like the T60 (not a bad thing). I might buy a T60 cheep these days if the T61 drives down the price a bunch..
     
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    thats correct. if I recall correctly lenovo has 3yr period for "IBM" logo use, and 5yr(?) period for "ThinkPad" logo use...
     
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    I'd be all over this laptop if it wasn't for Windows. Thinkpads are my favorite notebooks on the PC side. However, after using OS X for about a month now, it's really hard going back.

    If Thinkpads came preinstalled with Linux distro on the other hand, hmm...*cough* Lenovo *cough*
     
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    No NAND flash?
     
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    It appears the T61s and R61s are getting multicard readers (about time they got atleast SD card readers.), I see a webcam on the T61 as well. That's pretty cool. It seems they are a little more multimedia oriented as well as business now. I guess because the Z series isn't coming back. Now maybe Dell will feel the need to do the same to the lattitudes (card reader and how about two speakers Dell? Camera really isn't a big think on my list. But seems cool to brag about having.)
     
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    nand flash = robson

    i think the webcam addition is more due to the fact that more and more business users need webcams for video conferencing and such.
     
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    They used to be back in the IBM days.

    EDIT: What I should have said is that they used to come with Linux preinstalled in the IBM days. I believe it was Red Hat.
     
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    doh. somehow I totally missed that line.
     
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    Story of my life.

    I just ordered a Z61t on Saturday. Now I find out the T61 will have NVidia graphics, and a strong rumor that a WSXGA+ (1680*1050) panel will be an option for the 14" units. *wistful sigh*

    Oh well, the Z61t isn't scheduled to ship until 14 May, so maybe I'll trade up.

    Schwab
     
  32. zadillo

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    And I think the official name for it now is "Intel Turbo Memory" or something like that, so if you see that in a spec sheet, that's what it is.
     
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    HOLY Smokes, this is what i have been waiting for all this time :p....

    Nvidia + Thinkpad = wow ...

    Question what are the these nvidia quadro's based on? (I am not gonna game but i am curious)

    Steve
     
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    Anyone care to predict when the X61 series will be available??
     
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    Does anyone know what exactly the "LCD roll cage" thing is?
     
  36. FREN

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    I believe it's a little chassis surrounding the LCD to prevent it from flexing too much. So, if you drop it, and it flexes, it'll have some type of "skeleton" preventing it from wobbling all over the place, just like the steel bars in reinforced concrete.

    I wonder if Lenovo will put something more powerful than the Quadro NVS140 into the T61; the FireGL V5250 in the T60p has quite a bit more muscle.
     
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    I'm also interested.
     
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    seriously

    why is every thinkpad so ugly?

    why can't they make it stylish like asus?
     
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    Subjective aesthetics. Not to start a fight or anything, but I think some (not all) of the Asus offerings are really cheap looking.

    Schwab
     
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    Availability
     
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    I just checked the status page for my order. They just shipped it today.

    *bonk!* *bonk!* *bonk!*

    Seriously, I'm sure the Z61t will be very nice. I spent a long time researching it, making certain it would be something I would l be happy with.

    This has been a recording. *beep!*

    Schwab
     
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    On the subject of the ThinkPad; I think some of them might be a little ugly (the Z models I've seen in stores have always seemed kind of chunky and unappealing to me), but the classic ThinkPad look, including the T series, etc. has always had a certain appeal to me. It's just very clean and has a very refined business-like elegance to it. Especially the exterior, which just really screams out that it means business, which is exactly what it should do.

    -Zadillo
     
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    yea

    there are cheapo plasticy looking asus, but their top of the line has some nice aluminum magnesium alloy case with stylish alumnium buttons

    but so many thinkpad still have those ugly red mouse nubs and those ridiculous purple return buttons
     
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    Seriously people, if you do not like the Lenovo designs, there are other laptop manufactuers out there.
     
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    everyone has their own taste and opinion and should buy what they want. im sure lenovo isnt trying to sell to Susy Q' and her get along teen squad but to Uncle Hugh and his multi million corp. They took the thinkpad line and kept its roots, business. You hardly need to show off your o so shiny new laptop to co workers since most companies have dozens of these, if not thousands amongst their staff. In my personal opinion, the less a company puts into designing the exterior, the more they put into the interior. I also tend to love how these laptops look without all the extra "bling bling" features incorporated into them. i hope lenovo never changes the look of the thinpad or this will be my first and last purchase.
     
  46. zadillo

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    Surely they would not have a timelimit on the ThinkPad logo and brand-name? It doesn't seem like it would make sense for Lenovo to have acquired the PC and ThinkPad division of IBM only to have to give up the ThinkPad brand name in a couple more years. And it's not like IBM needs it any more.
     
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    That red nub, for your information, is called a trackpoint. And for those who have used it, the vast majority have reported that they prefer the trackpoint over your everyday touchpad.

    And what is wrong with a purple colored return key? That's a thinkpad signature look.


     
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    Any info about NVS140? Is it based in GF7400/7600/7700???
     
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    Some more T61 / T61P specs here?

    Chassis Model Screen/GPU Warranty
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 8897 14" Standard Integrated 1 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 8898 14" Standard Integrated 3 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 8891 14" Standard Discrete 1 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 8892 14" Standard Discrete 3 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 7658 14" Wide Integrated 1 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 7660 14" Wide Integrated 3 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 7662 14" Wide Discrete 1 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 7664 14" Wide Discrete 3 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 6465 15" Wide Integrated 1 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 6466 15" Wide Integrated 3 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 6459 15" Wide Discrete Exp. 1 Year
    ThinkPad T61/T61p 6460 15" Wide Discrete Exp. 3 Year

    pitty... Looked up some numbers, seems someone @ibm made a typo

    http://www5.pc.ibm.com/europe/me.nsf/webdocs-L/PC+Product+Guide:EMEA+PPG+Complete+Pages+-+Cust:English/$FILE/PPGEM0207-Cust.pdf
    new model numbers:
    T61 6369 3 year CCR 41C9436 41C9432 41E9876 41E9878 41E9877 10N3144 10N3143
    T61 6370 3 year IOR 41E9879 10N3144 10N3143
    T61 8741 3 year CCR 41C9436 41C9432 41E9876 41E9878 41E9877 10N3144 10N3143
    T61 8742 3 year IOR 41E9879 10N3144 10N3143
     
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    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    There is no Quadro NVS140M currently. There's an NVS110M and NVS120M. I'm guessing the NVS140M is a DX10-compatible card based off the Go 8600 or possibly the Go 8400.
     
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