Dell XPS M1330

The scores on 3DMark06 are about 2x the Go7400....They're nearing that of the first MBP with the underclocked X1600.

No one makes a 13.3" screen with a resolution that isn't WXGA. So regardless of dot pitch or anything else, the short answer is no, WXGA only.

 

1) Will this be available late June, or mid-July?

2) The 64GB SSD drive was just announced, any idea if (or when) this will be available as an option?

 

Lenovo will not make a 14.1" laptop with WSXGA+ resolution. Dell will not make a 13.3" laptop with WXGA+ resolution. I want to yell this at both Dell and Lenovo.

"Your indolence is inefficacious!"

 

Why yell at Dell and Lenovo? Yell at the LCD manufacturers. Dell and Lenovo don't make their screens, they buy them from companies such as AUO, LG, Samsung, CMO, etc.

 

They suck too.

 

Expected release dates!

 

Release date WILL be on the 10th or 12th of July, announcement on the 26th of this month.

 

anyone else can answer my question about an extended battery? will it fit in the front? I dont' see how it's possible that it fit in the rear, since the LCD panel is in the way.

 

This is the only enticing notebook I've ever seen from Dell.

 

You know, I'm not sure if there will be an extended battery. It wont fit in the back, because of the way the hinge works, and the battery definitely isn't in the front because thats too thin. It doesn't appear to have a modular bay either, so no modular battery. If at all it has one, it would be under the laptop, like HP has, or sloping down but not directly under the laptop, like Sony has.

 

I see. But having no extended battery will blow my mind away. I was thinking the exact same as you. Very interesting.

 

I don't care about battery life. Peeps, just buy 2-3 additional batteries. But i'm really pissed because of the 8400 GS only !

 

OMG... I just bought a XPS M1210 for $3000 aud

 

Sirius, is the new Santa Rosa plateform better than the old one. Is the increased fsb make a big difference?

 

Agreed, 8400M GT would work for me!

 

Santa Rosa isn't that much faster in terms of processor performance, but it is faster in terms of the graphics and wireless. Keep in mind Santa Rosa supports graphics cards like the GMA X3100, which is much better than the GMA 950 (and the same comparison holds for DX10 - the 8400M series is a great improvement over the Go 7400), it supports 802.11n wireless N technology, which is much faster than the previous 802.11g, and it also supports Robson turbomemory, which boosts your performance if you're low on RAM.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 945 chipset supports Wireless-N networks. As long as your wireless adapter is the 4945 you're all set. Don't believe me? Check out Toshiba's A200 line of laptops. No Santa Rosa but still full 802.11m functionality.

 

Well, yes. Its just a mini-PCIe card. The thing is, its required for Centrino specification (for Santa Rosa) and its a part of the the Santa Rosa platform. While there are a few GM945 laptops that use it, a majority of the GM965 laptops will.

 

FREN pretty much answered it all. It's a nice improvement though.

 

see if you can return it and wait for the M1330

I just sold my M1210 after I realized the weight is very close to my D630

 

Sureshot, if it's only $1400, then it's already got my money on the table.

 

I don't think $1400-$1500 is unreasonable to suspect for a starting price.

Features like the solid state drive will be the reason this system gets into the 2K territory.

Dell has my money for this system already. It's a thing of beauty.

 

Does anyone know if you can upgrade from a traditional HDD to a SSD drive, or are you stuck with the type of drive originally purchased with the system?

Also, I was wanted Turbo Memory originally. But wouldn't a SSD drive completely eliminate the need for Turbo Memory?

 

no I don't think SSD wouldn't eliminate the Turbo memory the Turbo is difference than SSD, maybe it's a different NAND memory attached with SantaRosa platform.
also the SSD could fit into your system if u have a bios update that supports SSD and to know they are SATA compatible.

 

Not everyone needs an SSD. There will obviously be base models without SSD. I think an XPS M1330 equipped like this:

Core 2 Duo T7300
Geforce 8400M GS
WXGA LED backlit screen w/ webcam
Extended-cell battery (if available?)
1 GB RAM
160 GB 5400 RPM
Wireless N

will run around $2,000. Before the M1210 price drops, I saw M1210's selling on eBay for $2,000 with these specs: T7200, 2 GB RAM, 100 GB 7200 RPM HD, Geforce Go 7400, webcam, 9-cell extended battery, 3 Year Complete Care warranty, bluetooth, wireless N.

 

My info also inclue the HDMI connector on the M1330.

I am getting Intel training on "selling the Quad Core and the Santa Rosa". Honestly, I feel that Intel wants to brainwash everyone into buying new computers every year. Other than the beauty of the new notebook line up and the retirement of the Napa platform, Santa Rosa may yield less than 10% of performance increase over the Napa systems. Santa Rosa is designed to work better with Vista. PERIOD.

Unless you are into some heavy gaming with the 8400, there's no need to sell off the M1210 yet. In fact, this is what Intel wants everyone to believe in. By slashing prices (Quad Core price drop in July 22), I think Intel wants to increase the market share of its products before AMD makes a huge (more significant) move.

What's new with Santa Rosa:
- 800Mhz FSB (5-10% increase in performance?)
- Turbo Memory (NAND with 5 years of life by shaving a few sec off everything)
- X1310 graphics (Something better to replace the dreaded GMA 950)
- 4965ABGN Wireless (we can all get that now)

SSD is designed as a drop-in replacement of standard SATA disks, however SSD has a small (up to 64GB) storage at the moment. It does speed things up by a bit but it might not be applicable to everyone. It also cost a lot more than the traditional SATA.

Judging from the design of the M1330, I suspect it is made by either Asus or Compal. Of course, electronics these days are mostly ODM from Taiwan.

I am definitely attracted to the M1330, however I am not ready to chuck away my 3 months old M1210 yet. I love the size of the M1210!! Also, I got an awesome deal from Dell on the M1210, I doubt they can offer what I have now for $1600 on the M1330. I have the T7200, 2GB of RAM, GF7400, A/V Package, 80GB@7200RPM, 3 Years RTD, Bluetooth, 4965ABGN.

 

O.O

Hook me up!

 

that is a very nice looking system... if build quality is solid.. i would definitely choose that over the sz... and i hate dell

 

So what're u doing with an alienware ??

 

i am really in love with dell xps m1330, design and specs are really cool to be my next notebook. I just choose dell over any system at any time

 

mrXniick your dellienware machine aka the BEAST is truly from dell

I LOVE DELL lalalala

 

I don't like Dell Inspirons. But I have no problem with their smaller XPS line (i.e. I like the smaller laptops in the XPS line, I can't stand the look of the M1710 or M2010).

 

The model i have is one of the pre dellienware computers ... so.. there.

 

The sony sz has hybrid GPU means that u can switch between a dedicated one and a integrated one. That is good as the dedicated graphics uses up a lot of battery life. If the Dell and SZ is similar performance and price. I will go for the sony.

 

I have been thinking about buying the m1210, and sort of need a laptop now. Your post makes me think I should just go ahead and get the 1210 rather than waiting. Do the sales people at Dell deal, at all?

 

Not on XPS systems in my experience. You might be able to get free expedited shipping. The new M1210s did get marked down recently on Dell's website, though. I'm not sure if the outlet systems are coming down. I'm thinking about selling mine (and I know I'm not the only one), but I'm still pretty lukewarm about replacing it with an M1330. I'm actually leaning more towards the Asus G1S for a change.

The M1330 will give you slightly better graphics performance, slightly better hard drive performance, and a slightly lower weight. The M1210 will have a smaller footprint, two more USB ports, and be cheaper.

 

From my experience, they do Deal. But then again, I'm a pretty persuasive person.

 

Sorry if this post looks like War & Peace, but you can skip to the end if you want, a lot is only background info.

I'm going to be entering college in the fall, and I'm looking at getting a 17" notebook (I like big screens). I've looked at a LOT of places, from boutiques to whitebooks to mainstream dealers to ebay, but I'm rather set on Dell, mainly because they're pretty good about replacing parts, and because they have an accidental damage plan--and I'm pretty accident prone.

I'm looking to get something that's going to last 4+ years, and not be a hobbling POS at the end of those four years. I was pretty set on an XPS m1710 (I can get a student discount via my college which takes ~$600 off the price), but now that the refresh is coming, I'm freaking out.

I don't game much--I have some old classics that I play (Freespace, Half-life), but I'm DEFINITELY going to get Starcraft II. My concern is that the tech refresh is going to make a system that should easily last four years look like a cripple after two. Especially if I'm buying a $2700-plus system.

But I don't want to spend more than $3000 on this thing. (I got some scholarships, that's the only reason that I can even spend that much.) Does anyone have a prediction as to if the Santa Rosas will be out in the XPS m1710 by August 1? (I can't wait anytime after that--I'm leaving in mid-August.) Also, would it be better to buy a 945 chipset and DX9 stuff or to wait for something that'll be compatible with the next wave? Will I even have to worry about the DX10 wave in four years? Will a 667 MHz FSB seem ridiculously slow in 2 years?

Most people I ask have no idea what I'm talking about (my mother thinks everything is a website). I'd just like to know what the members here think, since I'm at a loss for info.

Thanks a ton.

 

Do tell what you have gotten for free/reduced cost on XPS systems, and how you did it .

 

I would highly recommend a Sager NP5760 when it is updated with Santa Rosa and the DX10 Geforce 8800M GTX sometime later in the summer. Here's the current Sager NP5760. It looks much less ridiculous than the Dell, it comes from very reputable resellers, and it will cost you hundreds less than the XPS M1710. I think by an overwhelming majority, the NBR experts would recommend the Sager NP5760 over the Dell XPS M1710.

 

Well, to cut it short, I acted like I didn't need the product. I called them saying, "yeah, I'm in the market for a new notebook that is an ultraportable, do you guys have any?"

I didn't come off saying, "I want to purchase the XPS M1210, can we build one up?" like most people say.

So when using the first opening line, the rep suggested the XPS M1210 of course (higher price tag = higher commission) we spent time building it up. When it was all said and done and the final price rang out ( i can't recall what it was) I told her, no thanks, that's not the deal I'm looking for.

Mind you, I didn't say "sorry, that's too high of a price" because that just makes them try to cut off some features/performances to lower the cost.

I plain and simply told them it's not that spectacular of a deal and didn't seem too impressed.

Using this simple strategy she grabbed out at me before I hung up the phone, I got her to throw in an extra 6 cell battery (well, technically a discount for the 6 and 9 cell combo), 4 years warranty and 4 years complete care for a very generous discount, next business day shipping.

without getting into the exact prices too much, I saved $500 from what I configured through Dell online.

I know some times it doesn't always work and some times it's luck of the draw with hitting the right rep with the most leeway, but that's why I've had to hang up and call again more than one time.

Maybe this doesn't actually work and maybe I just got lucky, but I do understand that Dell is retail

 

The SantaRosa/DX10 one is the M570RU, right? I would go with that one, like FREN said.

Personally, I like everything about the M570 except for the looks. It looks so....elongated, and weird. I definitely prefer the XPS M1710 in style. The updated one looks much better than both.

 

The m1710 is overrated. Get the E1705. They have the same chassis, and costs half as much. I have handled both the precison M90 and the e1705, and they are virtually the same.
Add on a 3 year at home warranty and you're good to go.

 

Well, the reason I was looking at the m1710 is because it supposedly has better heat dissipation, i.e. two copper pipes instead of one. With all the issues with Dells overheating I thought that might help.

I don't think I'll be getting the Sager because frankly, though I've priced them, my technophobe parents think that buying from them is risky, and won't let me do it. (This is also why I'm not buying from a smaller boutique dealer which may have a better heat solution.)

But my main question wasn't which notebook to buy--it was, "Does anyone know if I'll regret buying pre-refresh tech in four years? Or should I wait a little more and pay a little more?" I'm still a noob with this stuff and I don't know how long a big refresh will stay valid (unless we're talking Windows OSs, which I'm fairly certain hang around for more than four years....)

Also, for the discount, I went through my college's computer buying guide to a "Dell University" section which allows you to purchase bundles or to browse the catalog at up to 12% off. So I was able to get 19% off (with warranty stuff) plus an outright discount of $138 on an XPS m1710. I don't think you can get this deal unless you do it through your school, however, should be lucky enough to be in school.

 

Well my guess is.. wait for a few months after dell m1330 release.. and A new upgrade will appear, prolly a 8400M GT by then. Exactly like the m1210 when it was 1st release , started with just integrated then to 7400go ? correct me if im wrong thou.

Why i think they are doing this ? marketing strats.. they will never release a final or best option 1st. Well thats my opinion.. what do you guys think ?

 

If you're looking at an XPS M1710, try to go for the Precision M90. Everything is exactly the same except for flashy looks. It has Quadro graphics, but they're really just the same as the 7900 series with a different video BIOS. In addition, you get business support, a standard 3 year warranty, and some other nice features like a third mouse button. It also has the same cooling solution with a dual-pipe graphics card, which is better than the E1705's single pipe solution. Despite the fact that it's a workstation, I've found that it's also typically cheaper than the M1710.

 

Hmm....Maybe I should just take a look at the M90. I didn't realize that they had a dual pipe also. Plus I'll be doing engineering in college--maybe some CAD work, probably some photoshop, and a Quadro would be fine for that. Except OpenGL has some compatibility issues with Vista, I hear, which I suppose will eventually be ironed out.

Can I play Starcraft II, Half-life 2, etc. on a Quadro? I really don't want to mess with the BIOS (I've heard of Rivertuner and all), but I can probably find an EECS major to help me if I must. But can I even get decent performance (40+ fps)?

Thanks for all your suggestions.

 

Well, I tried pricing the M90, but it's not offered with a discount from my school, so the XPS m1710 is actually less expensive by about $300 minimum (though I do get Vista Business on the M90, which I couldn't change to the cheaper Home Premium). Do you think the tech refresh will hit the M90 first (since the m1710 seems to be waiting for an nVidia 8800M, which I am NOT going to pay for)?

 

Well, the M90 is waiting for the workstation version of the same 8800M graphics card, so they will be released at the same time, or the M1710 will come out first.

 

so i was just about to order a D630, then my friend sends me this 20 page long thread (i read it all ><) and this thing looks beautiful and sounds like a great laptop. id love to have it, however i dont game, nor do i watch movies, and when i listen to music its usually plugged into speakers. i have an Inspiron 600m and i wanted the D630 because i can continue to use the docking station that im using now. i know its a long shot but do you guys think this will have the port replicator? also, will this be worth the wait and extra money if i mainly use my laptop for surfing the net, chatting, word/excel, photoshop, and some things for school like SSH, matlab, maybe autocad and stuff like that? thanks!

Sirius_GTO, i notice you have the 630, how do you like it?