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    Dell XPS M1210 Shows up in Japan and Europe (pics)

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Charles P. Jefferies, May 23, 2006.

  1. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The Dell XPS M1210 has shown up on websites in Japan and Europe now. It's a 12.1" screen ultraportable with rotating built-in camera, up to 2.0GHz Core Duo processor, 4 USB ports, FireWire,nVidia 7400 graphics and some really hot looks. Could it be that Dell has something hotter thanthe MacBook?

    See a full review of the XPS M1210 notebook here

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    Dell XPS M1210 on Dell Japan (view large image)

    A website contact to NotebookReview.com indicates he was able to order through the Dell Japan website.European readers also noticed that on Dell's Norway and Germany sites configurations and prices of the XPS M1210 are listed, but availability is indicated as being May 30. No listings are found on the Dell.com U.S. or Canadian site. Below is a screen shot from the Dell Norway site for the available configurations:

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    Specs and availability listed on Dell Norway website (view large image)

    Even though it's obviously not in English, you can roughly tell that the high end configuration listed is:

    • Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz (in Japan it appears a 2.0GHz T2500 option is available)
    • nVidia GeForce 7400 Graphics card with 256MB RAM
    • 12.1" WXGA screen
    • 1GB RAM
    • 100GB hard drive (in Japan it appears a 7200RPM option is available for better performance)
    • Rotating built-in web cam
    • 4 USB 2.0 ports
    • FireWire
    • Two headphone jacks
    • Windows XP Home (in Japan XP Pro is available)
    • DVD burner
    • Currency conversion estimates price to be $1,800 in Norway

    Many ultraportable fans will rejoice at the option of having a decent dedicated graphics card. The rest of the specs are really nice too of course. The built-in rotating web cam and great portability will make this a popular option for buyers such as students that want to record lectures maybe and do some gaming as well. Below are some pictures from the Dell Japan website of this notebook:

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  2. dudesdudets

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    The on board Video Memory seems like only 64 mb with 192 max shared.
     
  3. ogando_jose

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    wow,its hot, but really expensive, for 1800 i would get a macbook pro or an acer 8200
     
  4. dudesdudets

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    It's about $1500 in Japan with geforce 7400 option.
     
  5. grandall

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    That looks neat and all, but unless I'm missing something, the specs and price are almost exactly the same as the Sony SZ series, minus an inch of screen (but probably without any less weight). I was sort of hoping that Dell would undercut Sony on price by a bit. If that $1800 turns out to really be $1400 or so, that would be more interesting.
     
  6. Lil Mayz

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    I find it hard to justify the price over a mac book. I just don't think it's worth every cent/penny of the money you pay. I reckon the 12" screen is too small for gaming. I'd rather buy a M1710. I reckon this should not be part of the XPS series but a part of the Inspiron or Latitude range.
     
  7. LaZzZy_Dude

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    looks neat, but somehow looks like the 710m with a camera....
    I'm a bit dissapointed...b/c the lappy looks kinda bulky :mad:
     
  8. santasballz

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    dells have always been bulky compared to others...no matter which size screen we are talking about :(
     
  9. pkd

    pkd Notebook Enthusiast

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    this is one ghastly looking notebook :eek: am I missing sth? :confused:
     
  10. cy007

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    Yeap, they like to do it the "american way". Big, bulky, and oftentimes inefficient. Hey, my bad. Just kiddin.'. :D
     
  11. chase17

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    I'm betting the SZ is going to be a better bargain or equal money with less weight.
     
  12. DrewN

    DrewN Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm gonna go against popular opinion here and say this machine looks hot spec-wise and size-wise :D . I'm surprised Dell hasn't brought this over to the US yet (althought I'm sure it will come over at some point).

    To get a dedicated graphics solution in this small a form factor alone makes it a worthwhile purchase. Personally I couldn't justify a 15.4" notebook compared to a 17" for portability alone--I would rather have the screen real estate, which is why I chose the 17" hp dv8000t over the 15" hp dv5000t or any other 15" with the same graphics solution (7400 Go/ X1400)

    An ultraportable like this, OTOH, is killer, especially compared to a 17" with the same graphics solution. If this were out 2 months ago I'd be all over this.
     
  13. king13ear

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    any news on the weight and battery life?
     
  14. dudesdudets

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    According to Dell Japan the weight is 1.98kg=4.37lbs.
     
  15. dudesdudets

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    No sony is no bargain.
    No matter how much you pay you won't get a support.
    Dell XPS support is very good.
     
  16. k3l0

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    The American price will surely be lower than that of Japan or Europe.
     
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    Am I correct that this notebook does not have a PC card slot?
     
  18. Mik3y

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    Anybody have word on its dimensions?
     
  19. Zeros

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    It looks like there is one on the left side, towards the front. Look right above the large square on the bottom. It appears that there is a release button.



     
  20. ma401

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    It's an ExpressCard slot.
     
  21. titaniummd

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    I am sure that we will see $750 off $1999. This will cost the American market around $1200-$1300. I'd like to get one; maybe next year?
     
  22. dudesdudets

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    31.4 x 297.18 x 220.98 mm
     
  23. Fred from NYC

    Fred from NYC Notebook Evangelist

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    I went throught the customization options on the Japanese site and was disappointed to see that the M1210 is only offered with a TrueLife display. I would prefer an old-fashioned matte display because I find reflections rather irritating. But then I googled TrueLife and the first link is a page that stresses the anti-reflective properties of TrueLife screens. Not having seen a TrueLife display in real life, could someone kindly explain if these displays are really less reflective than standard glossy screens?
     
  24. NYCscorpio2000

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    XPS M1210: 1.2362" x 11.7" x 8.7" (31.4mm x 297.18mm x 220.98mm); 4.37 w/???

    Inspiron 710m: 1.22" x 11.7" x 8.5" (32mm x 297mm x 2.15mm); 4.2lbs w/ 4 cell battery and DVD

    I am sure the 1.24" is the slimmest part of the M1210 since it does look like it gets to over 1.5" once you get to the middle and back of the laptop.
     
  25. bombledmonk

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    The XPS line hasn't seen that type of dollars off coupons for a long time. 10% is often the most you'll get. Occasionally and extra $200 off or some other type of deal comes along, but I wouldn't wait on it for any of the XPS line.
     
  26. stimp1000

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    Just for a point of reference, I configured an Inspiron 9400 in Norway and in Canada with the same specs. In Norway, the price came out to a whopping $2384.18 CDN while in Canada, it came out to $1839 - a 30% difference.

    If we assume that to be typical (which may or may not be true), then an $1800 US notebook in Norway would be about $1390 CDN or $1250 US, which makes things a lot more interesting, especially when comparing it to the MacBook.

    On another note, I feel sorry for our fellow notebook users around the world. You're getting charged quite the markup.
     
  27. brave_turtle

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    Woah!

    The spec of this thing is just unbeleivable. IMHO it looks more interesting than the Macbook.
     
  28. X24

    X24 Notebook Evangelist

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    yes, cant wait fro the 30th! this is a phenomanal notebook, especially considering dell made it, usually they never do something like this.
     
  29. ufgatorindc

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    screen is just waaay too small for a potential gaming laptop...i just upgraded my 700m to an e1505 and am amazed at the extra screen real estate--it's really hard to go back to looking at the 12.1!
     
  30. LoveNotebooks

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    From: http://www.screentekinc.com/dell-truelife-lcd-screens.shtml

    "Furthermore, the anti-reflective technology marketed as Dell TrueLife is identical to the anti-reflective technology being marketed as Sony XBRITE, Toshiba TruBright and HP Compaq BrightView, etc."

    I've seen all these others & I don't see how they can genuinely call it anti-reflective, check out if possible a local Best Buy or a Dell kiosk ( http://www.Dell.com/mall ) & see it out for yourself.

    From: http://www.screentekinc.com/pixelbright-lcds.shtml

    Notice their differentiation is by calling one anti-reflective vs. anti-glare.

    " Conclusion: In the past, LCD screens were only available with an anti-glare surface. Nowadays, consumers have the option of purchasing an LCD screen with an anti-glare surface (rough matte) or anti-reflective surface (smooth high-gloss) depending on the users’ environment.

    Both anti-glare and anti-reflective LCD screens serve a distinct purpose. Anti-glare LCD screens may be better suited to office environments, where spreadsheets, word-processing, and similar tasks are the norm - along with many light sources and less flexibility in screen placement. Anti-reflective, on the other hand, may be better suited for graphics, gaming, and multimedia applications - like watching DVDs. While anti-reflective high-gloss LCD screens may seem superior in all facets, they are better suited in indoor environments where ambient light conditions are not as bright. This way the user gets ambient light reflection reduction without sacrificing any image quality. Anti-glare, on the other hand, may be better suited to the outdoors or indoor environments with brighter or direct light. In this situation, the user may be better off sacrifice image quality for maximum ambient light reflection reduction.

    Ultimately, this comes down to each user's personal preference. Every user is different, and the best way to determine which screen type is best for you is to stop by your local consumer electronics retailer to see them both for yourself."
     
  31. stamar

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    it looks like the dell b130 that just got reviewed here on the site
    it doesnt look like a quality case at all like a sony sz or asus w3j or lifebook

    has the cheap breakable lcd hinges

    who is the odm of this machine? its not a samsung or a asus as was rumored its a compal. this is based on my notebook spotting skills im developing.
     
  32. buddy1065

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    Nonsense! This laptop is a must have with my Hummer H3... :D

    Can't wait!
     
  33. Bsresponsive1

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    Looks interesting to me.

    Any ideas on american release date?
     
  34. raptor

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    Damn, it looks so thick. I don't think i'll be getting this one because it seems so thick. I doubt the height is 31.4 mm.

    Regards
    Raptor
     
  35. CoolHotCold

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    since when did 31.4mm turn out to equal 31.4cm
     
  36. E_D_N

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    Looks horrible.

    Chunky and blocky with no smooth curves...

    like something made in 1985 or something...

    Hope that design doesn't spread to other models...
     
  37. X24

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    I personally like this design a lot. its un-dell like and makes it look fancier. we should have a poll to weather you like or dislike the design.
     
  38. canonyau

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    This is awesome! If anyone has any alternatives to a 12" laptop with such a decent graphics card, speak up! I've heard about an LG lappy that costs an arm and a leg.

    The only thing I'm not so keen on is the weight. 1.98kg for a 12" lappy? when a 13.3" lappy can weight 1.69kg! eg. the SZ. That's not a great weight/ size ratio
     
  39. Reize

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    The LG you're talking about is the LG T1, and, there aren't really any. The Apple iBook and PowerBook 12" models have dedicated GPUs, but they're really dated.
     
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    I wish they had these graphic's options in the e1405...I mean, WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? cause someone explain why dedicated graph. isn't an option in this model, especially with Vista coming that requires at least a mediocre one.
     
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    Hmm..the interior looks old fashioned and overall looks too bulky for 12" machine
     
  42. canonyau

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    if the price directly converted from swedish kronas to british pounds is the price i'll be paying, (likely, as scandinavian taxes are just as high as over here, if not higher), then I'll definitely be buying one. It works out as just over £800, which is very very reasonable for a 12" laptop with a dedicated graphics card.

    If it's cheap then it's allowed to be a bit bulky and ugly. I'm less shallow, I seek what's within!

    edit: actually, i'll retract that, it seems that dell sweden is about 1/3 cheaper than over here in the uk, when comparing their current xps systems :(

    edit2: ah, not swedish, but norway kroners, that's where i was going wrong
     
  43. Jason

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    A few more pics:

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    Looks quite nice ;)
     
  44. raptor

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    We have a VAT of 25 % included in the price.
    Price without VAT is around 1.448,69 US-dollar.

    Regards
    Raptor
     
  45. Jason

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    It does look a little bulky... but can you really put a dedicated card in a 12" notebook and not make it look bulky? :p
     
  46. Mik3y

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    Your dimensions dont make any sense. From the dell website, the dimensions given for the Inspiron 710m is 1.5" x 11.7" x 8.5" (38.1mm x 297mm x 216mm).

    Also, don't forget that the Apple MacBook is actually 1.1" in thickness. Now a tenth of an inch isn't very much. Either way, the M1210 is noticably a quarter of an inch thinner than the 710m.
     
  47. Jason

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    I seriously doubt that it is a quarter of an inch thinner. In general when computer companies say the thickness of the laptop, they usually say the thinnest part, or sometimes list both the thinnest and thickest. On my friends 700m it ranges from about 1.2" to 1.5" as you get closer to the back. According to NYCscorpio2000 the thinnest part of the XPS is 1.2362 vs. 1.22 of the 710m. So I think the XPS is actually slightly thicker than the 710m.
     
  48. canonyau

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    it would appear that the XPS M1210 is no longer on the norway website

    ouch, however i found this


    the price at the bottom is 598,500 yen, which translates as over £2800, which is >5000$US

    surely a mistake!
     
  49. NYCscorpio2000

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    The measurements I put on there came from Dell's own website. :)
     
  50. Munge

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    I'm really excited about this laptop but was curious about the height arguments going on here and wanted to find out for myself what the max heights could be for this thing.

    So here is what I came up with:
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    The math works like this:

    31.4mm / 50px = 0.63mm
    0.63mm * 54px = 34mm or 1.34in

    What this shows us is that on this image 1 pixel is worth 0.63mm and the max height of this device is about 34mm (give or take about half an mm.)

    Hold on a second, how can you tell this is for real? Also included on this picture is an s-video port, I measured an s-video port on a video card I have sitting around and found them to be about 8mm across. I also measured the number of pixels across in this image for an s-video port and came up with 12 pixels. So, using my pixel to mm conversion number from above: 0.63mm * 12px = 7.65mm. 7.65mm seems reasonably close enough to my sloppily measured 8mm to have me convinced.

    I think this is going to be a sweet machine, and I'll be placing my order as soon as Dell gets them on their US site!
     
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