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    Dell Latitude E6410 and E6510 now available

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by John Ratsey, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Dell has posted details of the long-awaited E6410 and E6510 on its UK site. The E6410 can be configured for order.

    The specification sheet for both models is here.

    The offerings are much as rumoured: The E6410 is available with 14.1" 1280 x 800 or 1440 x 900 displays while the E6510 offers 15.6" 1366 x 768, 1600 x 900 or 1920 x 1080. Quad core CPUs are an option on the E6510.

    John
     
  2. Dinkleburg

    Dinkleburg Notebook Consultant

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    Doesnt DELL ever learn?
    They are providing 90w adapters which throttle the quad core cpus.
     
  3. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    Sounds like dell is following lenovo's idea on sizing and power. Now if lenovo would do the same and mimic dells m6500 and update the w700 platform...
     
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    I wonder how powerful is the quadro nvs 3100m?
     
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    As long as they don't go with a 16:9 aspect on the LCD, I would hate a 17.3" 16:9 :mad:
     
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    Thats why I hope they follow dells lead and keep with 16:10. I have come to realize that 17in 16:10 is my favorite size and Im saddened to see it go, but happy to see a few manufacturers stick with it.
     
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    bigddybn Notebook Evangelist

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    But how poor is it? Will it manage some light gaming, like MMORPG's? (the Star Wars MMORPG especcialy, when it comes) :D

    I'm sad to see they don't offer the new model in black. I think that looked a lot tougher.
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It will play most older games and newer ones on low resolution/quality. I hope the workstation equivalents come out soon - I can't wait to see the Precisions!

    edit: M4500 is also on the Dell website!
     
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    I'm curious to know how long battery life for the new E6410 will be, especially with the core i5, DDR3 RAM and the NVS 3100 upgrades.
     
  11. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Until there is some better information I would assume similar to the E6400 with a similar configuration. ie 4 to 5 hours with a 6 cell battery.

    John
     
  12. Ahbeyvuhgehduh

    Ahbeyvuhgehduh Lost in contemplation....

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    Not bad battery life from a 6 cell imo....
     
  13. NCarlson

    NCarlson Notebook Enthusiast

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    Did a tiny bit o' research...

    I did find that the older P-series (Penryn) in the E6400 have a TDP of 25 watts, but the newer core i5 mobile processors (and the available dual-core i7) have a TDP of 35. So, this is a negative in power usage. However what needs clarification is whether this the max TDP accounting for power usage when turbo mode is enabled. So, I assume the average watt usage will be much lower than 35 watts, when performing very light tasks such as web browsing, word processing, etc.

    DDR3 RAM is rated for less voltage than DDR2, but I *assume* that this difference is negligible.

    The older nVidia Quadro NVS 160m has a TDP of 12 watts. However, in the E6410 the NVS 3100m has a TDP of 14 watts.

    So, this being said, I'm not quite sure how the E6410 could be an improvement over the E6400 power-wise, apart from what I have mentioned here.
     
  14. MGS2392

    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    You also need to account for the fact that there is the memory controller and IGP on board the chip.
     
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    Well, for one thing, TDP is not power consumption. TDP (Thermal Design Power) is a measure of how much _heat_ a component puts out at maximum load, and thus how much heat the cooling system needs to dissipate. Thus, depending on the efficiency of the component involved, 2 components with the same TDP could still have vastly different power requirements.

    As well, for the new i-series chips, what used to be the northbridge (the memory controller) on the motherboard of the old C2 series chips is now integrated directly into the CPU chip itself. Depending on the exact chipset, the northbridge could easily account for 5-10 watts of TDP (PM45 is about 7 watts, for example).
     
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  17. John Ratsey

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    Anandtech has made a useful comparison of power consumption.

    John
     
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    I usually like Anandtech articles, but I'm less than sure this is a good test in this particular instance. First of all, they're comparing a pre-production Asus K42 to a HP (exact model not listed). Even though they tried to keep things as similar as possible, simply setting equal brightness levels on both machines almost certainly won't result in equal power draws (since I kind of doubt both machines use the same screen). Still, it's probably not bad for a ballpark figure, but... enh.
     
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    i wonder when the E4310 will come out? hmm
     
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    Probably in a couple of months when the i7 ULV comes out?
     
  21. Charles P. Jefferies

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    TDP does not have anything to do with power consumption, actually.

    TDP = Thermal Design Power. It is a number provided by chip manufacturers to let notebook/desktop ODMs know how much thermal energy a heatsink coupled with the chips needs to be able to dissipate in order to keep the chip running in its recommended temperature limits. That's it.

    Also, as noted, remember that the memory controller is now onboard the CPU, which adds to power consumption and results in a higher TDP. So we don't actually know at this point whether similarly-equipped Core 2 Duo and Core i3/i5 notebooks will compare in that regard. My thought is that there will be little difference.
     
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    Does anyone know why Dell offers WWAN cards in the USA (Gobi 2) but not in any other markets for these new laptops (E6410/E6510)?
     
  24. John Ratsey

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    Did you check the large business configuration options? They are more extensive than the small and medium business. If the option exists, phone so that you can get the configuration that you want, plus a discount.

    John
     
  25. John Ratsey

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    Some photos of the E6410 have been posted in this thread.

    John