The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    Dell Announces New XPS Laptops Discussion

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    22,339
    Messages:
    36,639
    Likes Received:
    5,080
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Last edited by a moderator: May 7, 2015
  2. h0bbes

    h0bbes Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    11
    Messages:
    99
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
  3. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    346
    Messages:
    1,565
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Is it just me, or is Dell's XPS line starting to look like their Inspiron line? What happened to the high end feel of the 2008 XPS lines?
     
  4. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

    Reputations:
    3,635
    Messages:
    4,174
    Likes Received:
    419
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Interesting design...

    In the past the "XPS" line from Dell represented their performance/gaming segments of their lineup and their designs match that line of thought usually by elements that make it standout(hinge designs, lights or such). These ones look a lot like the Inspiron line design wise though so there's no visual differentiation between the lines. Are the materials the same?
     
  5. roninmagik1

    roninmagik1 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    6
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    either way, i'm happy as all getout!!! backlit keyboard, optimus, jbl speakers with subwoofer in the 15 and 17 inch models, 1080p screen option, all i gotta find out is whether or not it's a synaptics touchpad (i don't like alps), and i'm golden!!! this is my next laptop for sure!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. h0bbes

    h0bbes Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    11
    Messages:
    99
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I just have to wait and see which SB processors will be used and if they decide to switch to the new ATI cards.
     
  7. Partizan

    Partizan Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,697
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Eventhough I hate the looks I got to admit, the specs look pretty nice. Only the sxps 15 is available in Belgium atm, but I think that 884€ for a system with a core i7 740qm and a 2 gb gpu (gt 435m, no idea how it performs though compared to...lets say a hd4670 or hd 5650) is definitly a bargain.

    The 200€ extra cost for a full hd screen on the other hand seems like a rip off, but is not something I need in a laptop anyway.
     
  8. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

    Reputations:
    3,635
    Messages:
    4,174
    Likes Received:
    419
    Trophy Points:
    151
    It's not just about looks, it's also about design. If the design is the same it might carry the same flaws or the same shortcomings without some modifications. If you pair a design used for budget laptops with lesser parts and just stick in high end parts, it might not agree.

    Obviously, I'm certain(or at least hoping) that the interior design and real estate have been molded to accommodate the higher end hardware and that the similar looks to the Inspiron line are just that, similar looks to standardize factory operations.
     
  9. h0bbes

    h0bbes Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    11
    Messages:
    99
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    notebookcheck : "The performance of the GeForce GT 435M is intended to be on a level of the Mobility Radeon HD 5730 in the upper middle class (in 2010). " Its rated higher than the 5650 or 4670
     
  10. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

    Reputations:
    6,415
    Messages:
    5,296
    Likes Received:
    552
    Trophy Points:
    281
    I just really loathe the "Junk in the trunk" look of them. I hated it on the Dell netbooks, and I really have to say it looks just as bad or worse on the new notebooks. Specs or not, specs aren't the whole picture when picking out a new notebook. If looks factor in even 10% of the notebook buying equation, that would exclude these by 10%.
     
  11. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,389
    Messages:
    10,552
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    456
    I was just about to say... I know looks are subjective but I think these are ugly.
     
  12. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

    Reputations:
    3,635
    Messages:
    4,174
    Likes Received:
    419
    Trophy Points:
    151
    I just don't understand the idea behind the design. The XPS line doesn't stand out visually from the Inspiron line from the preliminary pictures which isn't really good design.
     
  13. Huskerz85

    Huskerz85 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    48
    Messages:
    508
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I agree, though I don't think they're nearly as ugly as people make them out to be - more like putting a tux on an inspiron. They certainly have some nice options though.
     
  14. GrinningDoom

    GrinningDoom Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    thanks for the review... im waiting for this new series for a long time...

    I do have a question; Does Dell XPS 15 come w/ USB 3.0 ports or not?

    Because Dell's official website refers that a notebook has USB 3.0... However, when i went through to its features accross the website, it says it is hooked up with USB 2.0! I'm really confused.... can somebody help me out in this particular spec??

    thanks in advance
    cheers
     
  15. h0bbes

    h0bbes Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    11
    Messages:
    99
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Just by looking at the specs posted at anandtech, i think the 15" has 2 USB 3 ports
     
  16. Shoulderknight

    Shoulderknight Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Can't seem to spec out the 17 inch with a 1080p screen...anyone else get this?
     
  17. 905er

    905er Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  18. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    483
    Messages:
    2,322
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    The design allows them to put ports on the back easily. Functionality is more important than looks, though they should have at least put a distinct design on the lid.

    These seem really cool, but those prices are pushing the limits of what can be considered a good deal.
     
  19. cotolay

    cotolay Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    19
    Messages:
    594
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    What a shame a 17 inch doesn't come out with 1080 option.
     
  20. jamesr

    jamesr Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I love them, I just ordered a 15" model to replace my 3 year old Gateway FX. The Gateway has been a great laptop, but it is time for a new laptop.
     
  21. Kossel

    Kossel Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    120
    Messages:
    356
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    how come xps line's design is worse (uglier and thicker) than previous?? I own a xps m1330 and really like it... didn't like SXPS and was waiting for new xps but now... i think i will keep my old xps or choose other one
     
  22. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

    Reputations:
    6,415
    Messages:
    5,296
    Likes Received:
    552
    Trophy Points:
    281
    There it is. It all comes down to what YOU value more. For me it's 60% looks and 40% functionality. I value the looks, because I don't game much and can afford to have a less powerful graphics option, so that opens my options up to a very large market. That, and I tend to be carrying a notebook under my arm or on my back 90% of the day, and I prefer it to be lightweight and durable.

    I love the specs of the new XPS models, but I just can't get past that massive overhang on the rear. It doesn't work for me. :)
     
  23. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    483
    Messages:
    2,322
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Fair enough. Granted, at these prices I don't much of a reason to look at these laptops if you don't want powerful graphics. xD
     
  24. cy007

    cy007 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    86
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Damn did somebody hit Dell with the uglystick. The new XPS reminds me of the bulky+cheap Acer laptops pre-2003.
     
  25. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    346
    Messages:
    1,565
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Well, it's not necessarily a compromise, you can have both. They could have put some brushed aluminum lid and maybe some nicer palmrests and it would look worlds better without changing a thing with the ports.

    The new N82JV from Asus looks very classy with the bronze anodized metal lid, without sacrificing anything in the connectivity department.
     
  26. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

    Reputations:
    3,635
    Messages:
    4,174
    Likes Received:
    419
    Trophy Points:
    151
    The one use you've listed(carrying the laptop) is more related to construction than looks really. Looks would serve only an aesthetic function i.e. being pleasing on your eyes. Then there's be other so-called "sense" aesthetics such as touch, feel(sturdiness or appearance of sturdiness) and sound.

    Mind you, it comes down to preference. My main gripe isn't about their looks so much as it's the fact that they look nearly exactly the same as their Inspiron line. In the past, Dell has segregated their notebook lineups by different looks(as well as different specs). There's a reason the Studios don't look like Studio XPS' or why Studio XPS' don't look like Inspirons...it's for a visual segregation of the model lineups.
     
  27. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

    Reputations:
    6,415
    Messages:
    5,296
    Likes Received:
    552
    Trophy Points:
    281
    In that sense you'd be right. I prefer my Apple usually, because it feels solid as a brick, and it looks really good. My Latitude is my next choice, as I KNOW without a doubt it's solid, as it went with me through my recent car accident and like me it has battle scars...

    But you're absolutely right about differentiation. It's missing from a lot of Dell's lineup nowadays. The Vostro's were un-needed, just like several other lines. It reminds me of GM. Make one platform and build three similar looking cars on it. For example... the Adamo (now defunct), the Latitude 13, and the Vostro 13. Dell needs to really look at where some of it's models fit in.
     
  28. Andrew Baxter

    Andrew Baxter -

    Reputations:
    4,365
    Messages:
    9,029
    Likes Received:
    55
    Trophy Points:
    216
    In regards to the design, can't say I'm too smitten either. It borrows heavily from the current Inspiron design and definitely does not stand out or look cutting edge. I liked the old XPS M1530 / M1330 design that had a sports car like look. The only car the new XPS looks like might be a Prius or Smart Car, very rounded and bubble like.
     
  29. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

    Reputations:
    6,415
    Messages:
    5,296
    Likes Received:
    552
    Trophy Points:
    281
    This is the XPS I want back.... That whole design philosophy. I liked it. :(

    <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xhtgw-tOj-o?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;hd=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xhtgw-tOj-o?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;hd=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='425' height="344"></embed></object>
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 6, 2015
  30. vsherry

    vsherry Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    112
    Messages:
    624
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    41
    The XPS line in the video was fabulous. Someone had one today in the coffee shop, and I admired it.
     
  31. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

    Reputations:
    3,635
    Messages:
    4,174
    Likes Received:
    419
    Trophy Points:
    151
    And this is why companies need Industrial Designers instead of letting Engineers or pure artists design products >.>
     
  32. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

    Reputations:
    1,653
    Messages:
    9,239
    Likes Received:
    247
    Trophy Points:
    231
    You're not alone. I liked the whole company better then too.

    Bronsky :cool:
     
  33. Immoteus

    Immoteus Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Sweet mother of... Wth happened? I didn't realize Dell started taking design notes from Toyota. The specs look great but they need to bring back the previous designs of the XPS line.
     
  34. mikepaco

    mikepaco Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I think the design is an improvement over the SXPS. No more glossy surfaces or tacky leather, and the vents seemed to be placed properly this time. It has a very functional and subdued form that I like.
     
  35. Sirhcz0r

    Sirhcz0r Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    600
    Messages:
    1,079
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I agree with most of these statements. What's the point of this line? My XPS M1530 had that Nvidia GPU issue, but other than that it was much nicer than these. These look just like the Inspirons, which lately have been complete junk.

    All these companies are trying to make things similar in styling to Macbook Pros, and the vast majority are terrible. Dell, bring back some real XPS models.

    I was recently considering buying a SXPS 13, but now I'm not sure because in the event that it dies, I'd likely be given an XPS 14. Originally I was eager to see what would replace the SXPS 13/16. Those models were getting worse, but still shared some aesthetic characteristics with the XPS M1530/M1330, but these new ones have completely left that design.

    Other than the Alienware line, there's now nothing worth buying in Dell's home segment.
     
  36. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

    Reputations:
    6,415
    Messages:
    5,296
    Likes Received:
    552
    Trophy Points:
    281
    Completely agree. Matter of fact, I've felt that way for quite a while, with the only notable exception being the Inspiron 11z. I'm kinda fond of that one. Otherwise, anyone that knows anything knows that the business notebooks, like the Latitudes and Precisions, are where it's at. Gamer's should look at Alienware, not the XPS's. When Dell purchased Alienware, the XPS line should have been neutered then and there. Dell's gaming segment is Alienware, not XPS, yet people still buy XPS models for gaming. XPS models are more of media consumption devices and maybe media creation, with portable power like the older M1330/M1340.
     
  37. Harleyquin07

    Harleyquin07 エミヤ

    Reputations:
    603
    Messages:
    3,376
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Specifications for the 17" seem slightly stronger overall than the XPS 16 I helped to configure for a relative earlier this year. Although looks are highly subjective, I'm more impressed with the current lineup than the new design.
     
  38. URPradhan

    URPradhan Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    50
    Messages:
    1,084
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    The Studio XPS series was looking good to eyes than this ugly XPS series. Its looks more like a Inspiron laptop. May be HP Envy will get an edge over this.
     
  39. J.R. Nelson

    J.R. Nelson Minister of Awesome

    Reputations:
    338
    Messages:
    549
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    31
    So in other words the battery life will last a long time, but it'll take five minutes to get up to full speed once you press the power button? :)
     
  40. booboo12

    booboo12 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    4,062
    Messages:
    4,272
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    116
    I actually think their cool looking?

    Then again...I own a Latitude so what do I know about high style? :p
     
  41. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,389
    Messages:
    10,552
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    456
    Latitudes and Precisions are awesome looking. Simplistic is sexy.
     
  42. mrbee33

    mrbee33 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    393
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    not the case with these
     
  43. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    22,339
    Messages:
    36,639
    Likes Received:
    5,080
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I hope the keyboard is different on these than the Studio notebooks. I tried a Studio 15 the other day and the keyboard had an abysmal feel.

    That said, Dell is trying with these laptops -- better speakers (a 12 watt subwoofer in a notebook!?), a 1080p on the 15", and Nvidia Optimus. I think the HP Pavilions still put up quite a fight against these however and for less money . . .

    Personally I am not a fan of the design, looks too much like a toy. But hey, lots of people are liking them so far.
     
  44. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

    Reputations:
    3,870
    Messages:
    4,089
    Likes Received:
    643
    Trophy Points:
    181
    +1, they are uh uh ugly.
     
  45. vsherry

    vsherry Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    112
    Messages:
    624
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    41
    To me, these are plain but not ugly. I hardly think I'd walk by one in a cafe and think to myself "What an ugly computer." Now, the all-black MacBook Pros ... And that's surprising because, as of now, I think the chrome unibody MacBook Pros are the best-looking laptops out. There's nothing WRONG with the Dells to me. They just aren't design-conscious.
     
  46. nesiojamas

    nesiojamas Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    1600x900 WLED screens in 15,6 " caput?
     
  47. Sirhcz0r

    Sirhcz0r Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    600
    Messages:
    1,079
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    My next machine will be a Lenovo ThinkPad X20x. :)

    My M15x has that resolution. I'd imagine the XPS 15 will have both options (900p/1080p).
     
  48. ghegde

    ghegde Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    40
    Messages:
    323
    Likes Received:
    109
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Design sucks. was Dell thinking ? Its a portable Device, Dell. you carry it around. not like a desktop that gets shoved below the desk
     
  49. Andrew Baxter

    Andrew Baxter -

    Reputations:
    4,365
    Messages:
    9,029
    Likes Received:
    55
    Trophy Points:
    216
    Lol, I don't think either of those traits will be true for the XPS though, just the looks.

    It also struck me that we're now 12 years removed from the fruity color Apple iBook line and somehow these Dells kind of look like the very rounded design of that line of laptops, just stretched wider. Obviously these aren't the same color and use a metallic finish, but the rounding off is very similar.

    [​IMG]

    And for those that say Dell doesn't care about design or doesn't try, they hired an executive from Nike to be the Chief Designer about three years ago. I can't say it's given them results, his major innovation seems to be the personalization / Design Studio options Dell has but most here would say meh to that in considering the purchase of a laptop.
     
  50. jaakobi

    jaakobi Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    114
    Messages:
    534
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    OMG THIS!!!

    I have a M1330 and it looks waaaay better. I thought Dell learned from the Adamo that people don't want the hump in the back (unless if it's an optional battery). Even the Studio XPS line looked way better, even with the tacky leather. And why is it so thick? It starts at 1.3" in the front and ends at 1.5" in the back! that makes my Thinkpad look thin!
     
 Next page →