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    Dell Adamo Battery not User-Replaceable

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Mar 24, 2009.

  1. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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  2. xenon2k9

    xenon2k9 Notebook Evangelist

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    This doesn't come as much of a surprise as it's competing on the Macbook Air level, of which also doesn't have a removable/replaceable battery.
     
  3. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    so,except of couple ports,any reason to get this instead of Air?
     
  4. aan310

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    i think it it stronger, slightly, and not a mac; assuming they are the same price for the same performance, i'd rather get the mac :/
     
  5. Xirurg

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    I got that "not a mac" :p yeah,some have allergy on macs :D

    but stronger? also,base air is cheaper then base adamo,no?
     
  6. markhedder

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    Why should this compare with the Macbook air, Macbook air is 3 pounds and has a better processor. You have to compare this with other 4 pound notebooks or other ULV processor notebooks.

    As for the non-user replaceable battery, I posted about it at the end of the Adamo main thread. Apparently it deserves a thread of its own. :D
     
  7. danieljdsn

    danieljdsn Notebook Consultant

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    that is a deal breaker for me.. :D
    i really like this lappy....why dell ... why.dell......... ;)
     
  8. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Let's not turn this thread into a PC vs. Mac war. Thank you.
     
  9. Cin'

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    I think Dell can lower the pricing now. :rolleyes:
    Such a sleek and outstanding notebook, and if I purchased..I would have to send it in? Is, Dell going to give me a loaner Adamo during this time???

    Yeah, I can't wait til one actually sells..and peep's run into battery problems early on...again: :rolleyes:

    Cin ;) :)
     
  10. Althernai

    Althernai Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's not so much PC vs. Mac as Adamo vs. MacBook Air. The more we learn about it the more similar it is, except of course it's quite a bit heavier and, bizarrely, somehow manages to cost more. Dell is doing something really strange here -- it looks like it is trying to out-Apple Apple in selling similar or possibly even inferior hardware for a higher price with the difference justified by "style". I'm not sure how well this is going to work; Apple at least has an OS that they restrict to their hardware.

    I guess the key is how successful they'll be in marketing the Adamo as a must-have luxury item. Most people who buy these things probably aren't going to care that much about processor frequency, non-removable batteries and the like as long as it works OK -- it's more important for it to simply look good (the weight hurts though...).
     
  11. Xirurg

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    em,never tried to do that... I meant this-

    + apple has very "strong" fanbase,which also help in sales...
     
  12. MGS2392

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    Well, the Adamo does have a nice selection of ports, at the cost of the lump that everyone's been complaining about.
     
  13. Vogelbung

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    It's pretty hard to figure out the reasons behind the major specs of this notebook.

    I'd be fine with the processor in terms of performance. The IGP is similarly fine for an adjunct notebook, I'll take the better connectivity over that anytime. The built in battery, if it actually delivers 5 real power saving hours as opposed to Apple's claimed 5 hours would also be borderline acceptable. The price compared with an Air? All Adamos ship with an SSD so actually not as overpriced as some might say - but the weight for what it is, is just ludicrous.

    Perhaps a thin aluminium laptop that has acceptably connectivity and one that you don't have to bend back into shape every now and again has to weigh 4lbs in order for it to be sufficiently well braced / made? In which case why ape the Apple manufacturing method - why not go carbon?

    I'm fleetingly tempted for the pretty, but in all honesty I have enough Apples if I want compromised stuff which looks good.
     
  14. Buhdahl

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    I'm not liking this new trend. Having a spare battery to double your battery life is too important.
     
  15. Thaenatos

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    I have a VERY open distaste for Apple products, but given the choice of the adamo or an air I think Id take the air hands down. Sorry Dell.

    On topic:

    I agree that having the ability to swap batteries is a huge bunus for the people that purchase laptops like this.
     
  16. Xirurg

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    who thinks that there will be no coupons for adamo?
     
  17. Vogelbung

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    Bwahahahahaha
     
  18. SpeedyMods

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    Keep in mind that this uses Lithium Polymer batteries (as far as I know) and that they last much longer than Lithium Ion batteries.

    Greg
     
  19. Althernai

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    You are right, it does use a Lithium Polymer battery. Dell's configuration website describes it as a "40 WHr Lithium Polymer Battery" which means even with the 10W processor and integrated graphics, the battery life will be quite limited unless the system is effectively idle. I'm not sure how long they're expected to last.
     
  20. Red_Dragon

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    Well i guess you take that and call this a win :D Its interesting i remember reading along time ago that this notebooks battery wasn't replaceable i guess alot of people never noticed.
     
  21. Vogelbung

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    Hmmm... Well, in that case I guess it's an Applesque '5 hours', i.e. doing nothing. The Crapbook Air has a 37whr battery for example so it's going to be about the same - I squeezed 3 hours and 30 minutes with 5 or so hours of sleep out of the heap.

    The more I learn about the Adamo, the more I have to question building it in the me-too-way to Apple, especially if Dell know that it's going to have to weigh a pound more in order to actually have usable machines.
     
  22. Rachel

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    The MBA has a 37whr battery but the mAh is rated at 5000mAh or 5200mAh so where mAh ratings go that is fairly normal.
    The one in the MB is rated at 4200mAh even though the whr are higher.
    I'm still waiting to see what the Adamo's mAh rating is.
     
  23. Cin'

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    I think Dell is going to have to do coupons on the Adamo, or some sort of price break, if they want to even out on sales....period.


    Cin ;) :)
     
  24. Dreamer

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    Just to clear this misconception since you often spread meaningless numbers around.

    The watt-hour (Wh) capacity, which is the product of ampere-hours (mAh/1000) and voltage (V), is the true capacity of the battery, which determines battery life and can be used for battery comparisons.

    The milliampere-hours (mAh) capacity can only be used for comparisons between batteries that run at the same voltage, otherwise it is meaningless as the voltage of notebook batteries usually varies from 7.2 to 14.8.

    I will give you an example with the original batteries used in the MB and MBA:

    4200 mAh * 10.8 V = 45 Wh (approx)
    5200 mAh * 7.2 V = 37 Wh (approx)

    The battery in the MBA has a higher mAh capacity but operates at lower voltage, and has a lower capacity as a result.

    That's about it, there is no Voodoo magic involved here or anything like that.


    Back to the topic, the MBA and the Adamo have similar capacity batteries (37 vs 40 WHr), which will provide similar battery life. The real battery life will depend on the power consumption of the notebooks.
     
  25. Vogelbung

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    Exactly. The SU CPU will help, but I doubt it'll result in a stunning leap in runtime. I suppose it has a better chance of reaching 5 real hours than the Crapbook Air - but not by any enormous margin I think if you're doing real-world stuff.

    Once again though - similar screen, similar drive, similar battery, and presumably a pretty similar mobo/CPU package in terms of weight - so the additional pound can't be coming from anywhere but additional structural components. It's looking more and more kind of silly to use rolled, machined aluminium for this, even if it does make the Adamo much less bendier than the Crapbook in everyday use.
     
  26. Rachel

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    I won't rise to the bait, some people though see a lower whr rating and instantly think that they are going to get quite dreadful battery life but that is not always the case.

    Battery life maybe ok for a lot of people that need around 4hrs battery life with wifi on. For a number of travellers and people that are on the go it just won't be enough though.

    If it can manage to pull of around 5 hours with wifi on and a decent brightness level even better. This would put it level with some other notebooks in its class. Still though i think that 7 hours battery life is what Dell should have been looking to obtain with wifi on.

    I also don't think that i could bring myself to buy a laptop with a non removable battery because of the hassle it will bring when i need to replace my battery.
     
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    I think these notebooks in a couple of months are gonna have a similar fate to the E4300 it'll be in the outlet fast and people will just scoop it up from there :D
     
  28. Xirurg

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    premium coupons and luxury outlet :p :D