Core i3, i5 Notebooks Launching in January

Core i3, i5 Notebooks Launching in January

Intel has officially announced that its Core i3 and Core i5 processors for notebooks will be launching in January at CES. The Core i5 is considered a mainstream processor and the Core i3 budget; the enthusiast Core i7 processors have already been launched and are shipping in many notebooks now.

The major difference between the Core i3 and i5 processors is that the i5 will have a feature called Turbo Boost, a feature which automatically overclocks the CPU under certain situations. Both the Core i3 and i5 will feature Hyper-Threading technology, which will allow for more efficient multi-tasking and faster execution of programs that use multiple processors.

Via (Blog.LaptopMag.com)

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Argh...so many names, core i3, core i5, core i7. Also the diferences in those chips. The i5 for example wil be dual cores, but if they'r name starts witha 7 it wil be a quad core. and now with this turbo boost..., its getting a bit dificult to seee the line between a core i5 and i7 if both have 4 cores.

And ofcourse, if your a gamer, its easy, just pick the i7 with the highest number and u'll be sure you can game properly, all you need is to sell one of your kidneys to afford it.

 

There will also be dual-core Arrandales under the i7 branding. Fujitsu is reported to have a tablet going through the FCC that uses a dual-core i7-620M.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/18/fujitsu-sneaks-arrandale-based-core-i7-tablet-into-fcc-gets-us/

 

There re no i5 quad cores based on Westmere.

It hors like this:
i7 Clarksfield (or how I call it i7q) are quad cores based on Nehalem, 45nm
i7 Arrandale (or i7d) are 32nm based on Westmere, dual cores
i5 are 32mn chips based on Westmere, dual cores.
All these support HyperThreading and Turbo Boost. (reference to the Intel Processor Information Guide for more info, link in my signature)
i3 are 32nm chips based on Westmere, Turbo Boost supported, no HyperThreading.

That is the current denomination on branding.
As models go, there are ULV i7, L i7, P i7...you get the point

 

Do you think notebooks with i3 & i5 will be cheaper than the current i7 notebooks? Will the i3's offer more speed than C2D?

In other words, is there any reason to skip the i7 if you don't really need that much power?

 

Nehalem architecture, or Arrandale as we will know it, is a faster CPU than C2D in all aspects in theory. It has better battery life due to 32nm and the ability of switchable graphics if a GPU is present.

My guess is that the i7d will be the best choice, at the same price as current T9xxx CPUs are...I would love lower prices for a 13 incher...

i5 will occupy the mainstream segment, where most noticeably we find P8xxx CPUs.

i3 should take the lower end, where we find P7xxx and T6xxx CPUs.

Pure assumption as this point.

 

I figured he was talking about Lynnfield desktop Core i5-750. You're right though that there are no Westmere based i5 quads but the whole misunderstanding just goes to show how confusing Intel's new naming scheme really is.

 

Beating NVIDIA? I doubt it...lol

But yeah, Intel naming scheme is a mess. People even think Centrino is a CPU...marketing didnt make it easier either.

i5 Lynnfield is quad core with no HT IIRC, i5 Westmere has HT and TB

 

I've met worse people.

 

What a silly name. What is i7/i5/i3 supposed to mean? If a higher number indicates performance, then let's have the i486 again!

Really... AMD has a much better naming scheme. X2, X3, X4 are all very descriptive (unlike something like Core 2 Quad. The 2 may lead one to think it is dual core, clashing with the Quad affixed to the end). Except for Athlon Neo. Whatever that means...

 

Yeah this intel naming scheme is a bit odd.

 

the ix branding denotes features supported.

i7 has TB and HT plus GTB on the IGP
i5 has TB and HT plus the IGP, no GTB and lower clocks
i3 has HT but no TB, nor GTB and even lower clocks for the IGP
They all have IGC, are 32nm

EDIT: I just notice the amount of initials there,
TB Turbo Boost
HT HyperThreading
GTB Graphics Turbo Boost
IGP Integrated Graphics Processor
IGC Integrated Graphics Controller

 

Good summary.

It will be interesting to see how all of these cpu's actually perform "real time" in comparison with what is available right now....

 

Intel seems to be copying the BMW car lineup: 3 series; 5 series; & 7 series

i3; i5;i7...but intel also has an i9 and BMW Only has an 8 series

PS it's 78 degres in San Diego, so I should get off this computer and go outside
for a while.

 

Intel doesn't have an i9. Gulftown is the i7-980X.

 

ok, Turbo Boost... to me this basically sounds like SpeedStep, no?

 

No. Laptop mag example:

A Demo:

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so all brands, dell, sony, asus, lenovo, etc will be carry intel's new toy?

 

Yes they all will.

 

How long after launch do you think these new cores will be available in laptops and tablets? Particularly tablets. For instance, there were headlines a few days ago about Fujitsu updating their T5010 with a Core i7. How long do you expect it to actually show up on the market, then?

 

Well Apple is rumored to be raising a fuss about Arrandale's IGP and making it sound like they may not use Intel's new CPUs in the MacBooks unless they get custom versions without the IGP.

 

The i5 chipset still has PCI Express x16 for dedicated video. Intel is heading in the right direction, Apple is just playing dumb. Switchable graphics will only be made easier with a chipset-native IGP.

 

Not to mention help improve battery life and lower heat when extra power isn't needed.

 

Ignoring everything Apple related, AppleInsider has good charts of the Core i3/i5/i7 line ups.

Want the Core i7 640UM in an 11.6 Acer Timeline.

 

And it's not like Apple has much leverage... if they stick with the Core 2 platform, their laptops will be out of date and they will lose potential buyers. They don't have any good choices among Intel's competitors either. So I think it's sort of unrealistic for Apple not to use the Core i3/5/7, whether they like it or not.

I love the idea of widespread switchable graphics though. I love the system on my T500

 

Doesn't the latest OS X version have issues with supporting switchable graphics?

 

-Acer Timeline
+ Vaio TT.

I thought the 15in MBP had a switchable gpu? The 9600GT and the 9400 when you want to try to save on battery. No?

 

Interesting chart, so will there bill like an EXTREME version of the i5?

Like how they had the core 2 extreme?

The reason I am asking is 2.53 clock for high end i5 seems a little low.....unless intel will do what they always have and continue to update over time until it ends up a like 2.9 or something.

This is a great way to kick off the notebook new year.

 

Hello,

When you say >>> i7 has TB and HT plus GTB on the IGP

Do you mean the Current i7 45nm Quad core's? or the i7 Arrandale (or i7d) are 32nm based on Westmere, dual cores? or both?

Thanks

 

Arrandale because qaud core i7's have no graphics on them.

 

Count me in! But when? It pisses me off, I can't upgrade the cpu on the 1810, so I have to buy a new notebook... grrr

 

This is a whole new architecture, it wouldn't work in your 1810 even if the cpu could be upgraded.

 

So, are we looking at i7 (arrandales) coming sometime by February, with decent GPU's onto 15/17'' notebooks? That would be cool...

 

Wait, so are Arrandale CPUs going to have quad-core version or this is going to be strictly dual-core?

 

Arrandale's are dual core's only.

 

Yea I know, guess I have to enjoy my 1810 while it still holds 6-7-8 hours of battery, and then I'll buy a new one with arrandale cpu

 

But when will there be new quad core i7 models which will use that smaller nano technology the arandales will use? The current corei7's use way to much energy. Sorry for my noob sentence, I don't know al those terms.

 

32nm quad cores come with Sandy Bridge in Q1 2011 (I don't think Intel will shrink them to 32nm before then). Huron River platform.

 

Is there a big performance difference between i7 (arrandales) and current i7 quad? the battery life really sucks with current i7? im still not sure what to do... cause i need a laptop now...

I can already order the new i7 620m arrandale?

 

Depends on what you're doing. If you're not doing the really heavily CPU-intensive tasks, just regular office and web browsing, then no. Keep in mind that all of the upcoming processors right now are dual-core. As for battery life, battery life with i7 is not noticeably worse than with C2D. Keep in mind that the two notable notebooks with poor battery life and an i7 are designed that way; it has a smaller battery than usual (about half the capacity of most others).

The only current i5 is a desktop processor; if you're able to order an i5 from deviltech.de for a notebook, that's almost certain to be a pre-order for the upcoming Arrandale i5. The only difference between Arrandale i5 and i7, apart from being slightly slower, is the 3 MB cache instead of 4 MB.

Edit - Yes, I'm sure pre-orders are up, but when you'll actually be able to get a notebook with the processor is open to question. The chips premiere January 7th, the question is how ready the manufacturers will be ready to ship notebooks with them.

 

Ok, well for some reasons i need to transfer teh money this year, tax reasons so lol. from that point i can wait, i just wanted to make sure i order the right thing.

i wanna play games and use it for school. so if the new i7 arrandale wasnt much less slower than the current but would have a much better battery life i would rather choose the new one.

old i7 had 45watt and new 35, thats quite a difference isnt it?

 

Current i7s are quad core on 45nm process, the new ones are dual core on 32nm process.

 

I know that, so 35W should have better battey life wouldnt it?

 

As I pointed out in your other thread, that wattage is TDP and not power drawn; that's the maximum heat it puts out at full load. At full load, yes, the i7 Arrandale would draw less power than the i7 Clarksfield. The problem may be, and this would require actual testing, if for the same workload, the Arrandale needs to stay at full load longer than the Clarksfield (because it can't process as quickly due to only having 2 cores instead of 4), then overall power consumption may be the same (or possibly more, although that's a bit more doubtful). At idle, I think they might consume approximately equal amounts of power, since they'll both be on a single core only, with all others shut down.

Arrandale can gain an advantage if the notebook it's in is setup to take advantage of the IGP; of course, if it's not also setup with switchable graphics, this probably means you wouldn't be able to game very well with it, depending on which games you intend to play.

If you're getting a "serious" mobile graphics card to game with, the CPU is probably the least of your worries power and battery life-wise; the GPU is likely to pull twice as much power as your CPU ever will.

 

Thanks so much I got the idea now.

 

whats the difference between dual core and quad core?

 

A dual core has two cores, while a quad core has four cores.

 

Quick question to those who know:
Is it worth waiting for these processors to come out or should I get something now? (I am eyeing the Asus X83VP-A1 for ~7-800$)...

 

A lot depends on what you intend to do with your notebook. From a quick look, I'd say that the only thing you might gain from an i5/i7 refresh of that model would possibly be more battery life, if it supports switchable graphics to the IGP on the Arrandale. You may wish to wait a bit anyway, however, as chances are good that when Arrandale is actually available, prices for existing C2D models like the Asus you're looking at will drop further, as they will become last generation technology. This is speculative, of course. The fact that a lot of people are pushing holiday savings as well may negate that advantage.

 

The first review shows that the i3/i5 platform is more power hungry that LGA775+Core2Duo. We are talking about desktop CPUs, but I have a feeling it would be the same for mobile CPUs.
http://en.hardspell.com/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=7464&pageid=6359