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    Asus F3sv-A1 Review

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Gautam, Jun 28, 2007.

  1. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    by Gautam Jagannath

    The Asus name has been synonymous with quality notebooks, and the F3sv-A1 certainly exemplifies it. The F3sv-A1 is a replacement for the previous F3j line of notebooks, sporting a new build, motherboard while still preserving the high-end yet budget gaming experience.

    I purchased the Asus F3sv-A1 for $1,425, and received a 3% cash rebate via Fatwallet, bringing the total to $1,383.

    The notebook arrived packed very neatly in a sleek corrugated cardboard box with a plastic handle. Asus provided a funky, spacious messenger bag and an Asus branded Logitech optical mouse along with the notebook. These additions gave the purchase a very polished touch.

    Specs

    • Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB
    • Intel PM965 Series Crestline Chipset 800MHz FSB + ICH8M (Santa Rosa)
    • Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
    • 15.4" WXGA+(1440x900) LCD
    • 1024MB x 1 DDR2 667MHz; two sockets for expansion up to 4GB
    • 160GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
    • NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS with built-in 256MB VRAM (TurboCache up to 512MB w/ 1GB RAM and 1GB w/ 2GB RAM) & DX10 support
    • 8x Super-Multi DVD-RW Dual Layer with LightScribe
    • Intel Wireless 4965AGN Draft-N Wi-Fi network adapter
    • Built-in 1.3M webcam with 240 degree swivel and LED lighting
    • Bluetooth, Fingerprint Scanner, 8-in-1 card reader
    • 6 Cell Li-Ion Battery
    • Fax/Modem/LAN/WLAN
    • A/C Adapter Output: 19 V DC, 90W, Worldwide (100V-240V)
    • 6.5 lbs & 14.2" * 10.5" * 1.1"-1.6"
    • BIOS Booting / HDD User Password Protection and security lock
    • Kensington Lock Slot
    • Trusted Platform Module (TPM)
    • Built-in Fingerprint Reader

    In The Box

    • F3sv-A1 Notebook
    • Asus Messenger Case
    • Asus Branded, Logitech Optical Mouse
    • LCD Cleaning Cloth
    • OEM Recovery Disc
    • Instruction Manuals (2) & Driver Disc
    • A/C Adapter 90W w/ Cord Strap
    • S-Video & RJ45 Phone Cables

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    Design & Build

    The notebook feels very sturdy and professional. The chassis is entirely made from strong plastic. The F3sv does not seem painted, so I suspect there won't be any lifting of paint on the palmrest.

    The notebook has a business like professional design. While Asus touts this notebook as a gaming notebook with a lot of horsepower, there isn't any sign of geekiness that its bigger brother the G1S has.

    The entire notebook feels strong and well constructed. With the help of the battery pack, the notebook is raised in the rear portion to further heat dissipation.

    I/O Ports & Buttons

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    ExpressCard 54, USB2.0x1, 4-Pin Firewire (IEEE 1394), TV Antenna In, S-Video Out, DVI out, VGA out, RJ45 (Phone) and RJ11 (Ethernet) ports. (view large image)

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    AC In and two USB2.0 ports. (view large image)

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    Battery compartment, access to two memory bays (DIMM0, DIMM1), and mini-PCI slot(s). (view large image)

    Integrated Camera & Microphone

    Included at the top of the screen is a rotating, 1.3 megapixel camera along with a small microphone. Asus has provided the LifeTouch software to use the video and still abilities of this camera. The camera is a handy feature for video conferencing, but would be used for little else.

    Here is an example of the photo quality of the integrated camera, the content of which shows the included technical literature that came with the F3sv:

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    Screen

    The F3sv sports a 15.4” glossy, WXGA+ widescreen that is backed by a no-dead pixel policy. The screen is crisp, rendering at a maximum resolution of 1440x900. It is indeed a very satisfying screen with excellent indoor viewing angles. Images appear rich and vibrant. Games and films are lifelike. The screen is thin and colors do not distort from minor pressure against the LCD.

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    Asus provides their proprietary Splendid software which can alter the color saturation of the LCD. The screen has very little light leakage.

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    Sound &amp; Speakers

    The F3sv has a basic built-in soundcard which is similar to all other brands. The audio in and out ports are featured on the front of the notebook, which is a mixed blessing for some. The placement of these ports are an annoyance for those who want to attach external speakers, but for those who travel or use headphones frequently, the positioning is perfect. The built-in speakers are located near the screen, and produce an unusually powerful, well amplified sound that is fairly well rounded for notebooks in general.

    Optical Drive &amp; Lightscribe

    The included super-multi drive is Lightscribe enabled, but no software is given to use this functionality. This is unusual, since the Lightscribe feature is noted on the invoice and the optical drive label. Free third party Lightscribe software is readily available online from lightscribe.com. I was therefore able to test the Lightscribe feature, which seemed to function considerably fast compared to the HP dv2000t's drive.

    DVB-T Tuner &amp; Intel Turbo Memory (Robson)

    A DVB-T tuner is offered in non-US models of the F3sv. For US models, an open mini-PCI slot is available to accommodate one. Furthermore, on the right side of the notebook, a TV antenna port exists for attaching an external antenna.

    The F3sv series notebook can also house the new Intel Turbo Memory, also known as Robson, via a mini-PCI slot that is open for use.

    Touchpad &amp; Fingerprint Reader

    The touchpad is very sleek looking. It is very responsive when the mouse speed is moved to the fullest setting in Vista. Otherwise, it functions slowly. Unfortunately, the touchpad doesn't have a rocker wheel where the fingerprint reader is located. Instead, scrolling is accomplished via a dedicated portion of the right hand side of the touchpad. However, the Asus branded Logitech mouse has a multi-directional wheel which serves this same purpose of a rocker wheel.

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    The fingerprint reader is located between the two touchpad buttons, and can double as a scroll wheel. It is an elegant and unobtrusive addition to the notebook, in contrast to some manufacturers who place the fingerprint reader as a separate unit on the palmrest.

    Keyboard

    The keyboard is a normal, full size set of keys, including function keys that control display output, touchpad use, volume, screen brightness, and other Asus specific functions. It is comfortable to use and feels solid when typing. The keyboard is fairly noisy, but does not have any noticeable flex when typing.

    Performance Benchmarks

    Windows Experience Score:

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    The disappointment lies in the 1GB standard memory. One memory bay is free for a quick upgrade up to 4GB max. Vista is fairly sluggish without 2GB of ram, which is a de facto minimum.

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    The exposed internals (including memory bays) of the F3sv-A1. (view large image)

    PCMark05 comparison results:

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    Asus F3sv-A1 (Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz, Nvidia 8600M GS 256MB) 4,544 PCMarks
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS) 4,571 PCMarks
    Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 4,153 PCMarks
    Lenovo 3000 V200 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 3,987 PCMarks
    Lenovo T60 Widescreen (2.0GHz Intel T7200, ATI X1400 128MB) 4,189 PCMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 4,234 PCMarks
    Fujitsu N6410 (1.66GHz Core Duo, ATI X1400) 3,487 PCMarks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60, Nvidia Go 7800GTX) 5,597 PCMarks
    Sony Vaio SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 3,637 PCMarks
    Asus V6J (1.86GHz Core Duo T2400, Nvidia Go 7400) 3,646 PCMarks

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    SuperPI results:

    Notebook Time
    Asus F3sv-A1 (Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz) 1m 04s
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 0m 58s
    Lenovo 3000 V200 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 0m 59s
    HP dv2500t (1.80GHz Intel 7100) 1m 09s
    Lenovo ThinkPad T61 (2.00GHz Core 2 Duo Intel T7300) 0m 59s
    Toshiba Satellite P205-S6287 (1.73 GHz Core 2 Duo Intel T5300) 1m 24s
    Toshiba Satellite A205 (1.66GHz Core 2 Duo) 1m 34s
    HP Compaq 6515b (1.6GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-52) 2m 05s
    Dell Inspiron e1705 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo) 1m 02s

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    Although SuperPI is not multi-threaded, it has been traditionally used in benchmarking and used here for a bit of nostalgia.

    HDtune results:

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    The 160GB hard drive is partitioned by default into three partitions: a 5GB recovery, a 96GB VistaOS primary, and a 58GB extended (60%, 40%). The recovery partition (and disc) allows you to make one single partition if you so choose.

    Gaming Experiences

    Gaming is wonderful on the F3sv, and that is expected considering the power the notebooks brings to the table. Because the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS card can work with DX10, I had the opportunity to play a DX10 demo of an upcoming game entitled Lost Planet, developed by Capcom. The DX9 tests were done with Elder Scolls IV: Oblivion.

    Keep in mind that the GeForce 8600M GS card can use TurboCache to dynamically allocate video memory contingent on your system ram. Results are expected to only improve when ram is upgraded beyond 1GB and/or NVIDIA drivers are upgraded. All benchmarks below were performed using modded ForceWare 158.45 drivers (The stock drivers would not even run the DX10 demo).

    3DMark06 Results and Comparison:

    Notebook 3D Mark 06 Results
    Asus F3sv-A1 (Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz, Nvidia 8600M GS 256MB) 2,344
    Sager NP9260 (2.66GHz Core 2 Duo E6700, 2x Nvidia GeForce Go 7950GTX video cards with 512MB DDR3) 9,097
    Alienware m5790 (1.83 GHz Core 2 Duo, ATI X1800 256MB) 2,625
    WidowPC Sting D517D (Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz, Nvidia 7900GTX 512MB) 4,833
    Apple MacBook Pro (2.00GHz Core Duo, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 128MB) 1,528
    Alienware Area 51 m5550 (2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7600 256MB) 2,183
    ASUS A8Ja (1.66GHz Core Duo, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 512MB) 1,973
    Dell XPS M1710 (2.16GHz Core Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7900 GTX 512MB) 4,744
    Toshiba Satellite P100-222 (2.16GHz Core Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7900 GS 512MB) 3,534

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    DX9

    Oblivion ~ 20-25 FPS average on medium-high settings, 1440x900


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    As you can see, there were points in the game that were choppy but for the most part the game ran exceptionally smoothly and is enjoyable to play. The F3sv-A1 handles Oblivion without much issue.

    DX10

    Lost Planet Demo ~ 12-18 FPS average on medium-high settings, 1280x768 (max!)


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    This game suffers quite a bit to play, although benchmarks show decent framerates for this DX10 demo. I suspect that having only 1GB of ram is a major issue here, being that the TurboCache can only max out to 512MB of total video ram. There is an in-game message declaring that medium-high settings are too high for decent gameplay. Another explanation could be that the newest drivers still cannot take advantage of the card's ability, or that the demo still has serious issues.

    Wi-Fi &amp; Bluetooth

    The Intel 4964ABGN card provides great range under the provided Windows driver. I was however NOT able to attain 108Mbps speeds with my Belkin Pre-N router on the newest firmware. This might be because the pre-N/draft-N specs are not standardized or interoperable. In any case, the new card has range equal to or better than the 3945ABG predecessor.

    Battery Life

    The Asus F3sv notebook is not strong in the battery life category.

    Windows Vista Remaining Time
    w/ Aero, Full Brightness, Wireless Radios On ~ 55 Mins
    w/ Aero, Half-Brightness, Wireless Radios Off ~ 1.1 hours
    w/o Aero, Full Brightness, Wireless Radios On ~ 1.2 hour
    w/o Aero, Half-Brightness, Wireless Radios Off ~ 1.5 hours

    As noted, the provided six-cell battery provides a measly one hour of battery life under Vista with all features turned on.

    Heat and Noise

    The F3sv provided surprising results in this area. Under extreme stress of gaming and benchmarking, the notebook feels relatively cool. More surprising is that the fan's noise is barely audible – and then notebook is completely silent under moderate stress. The F3sv is remarkably cool and silent under significant processing stress.

    CPU Temp (Average x2 Cores) Degrees Celsius
    Idle 49
    Normal Stress 55
    Gaming Stress 62

    The ambient temperature for tests was 24 degrees Celsius.

    Software and Bloatware

    Like all notebooks, the F3sv comes preloaded with unwanted or unnecessary software. Luckily, in comparison to the big companies, Asus has limited this bloat to just an anti-virus program and a few utilities. The included software is Nero 7 Essentials and Norton Internet Security 2007, Although Asus provides the Nero 7 optical disc, the software is not preloaded. However, a full reformat will reinstall all the original software. In effect, there is no way to do a clean Vista install since the OEM disk is a factory restore image.

    Ubuntu Linux Experiences

    The current LiveCD releases of Ubuntu do not work. I was able to install Ubuntu 7.10 (in Development, 64-bit) via the alternate CD's, non-graphical, install process. It was a fairly simple 25 minute procedure that involved reallocating space from the F3sv's second partition on the 160GB hard drive. The X server does not work on the default NVIDIA card option: instead, I was able to successfully get into the GUI by using the vesa driver. At the command line, after logging in, I typed

    $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

    This allowed me to completely create a xorg.conf file from scratch visually – allowing me to select the “vesa” display as noted previously, as well as other video options, such as a 1440x900 screen resolution. The Intel 4965ABGN card is not recognized at the moment, and some ndiswrapper work was needed to to get it running. I suspect that the next release of Ubuntu in October will support the the F3sv's hardware without any work beyond the installation.

    Warranty &amp; Tech Support

    Asus provides a thirty day Zero Bright Dot policy, a one year battery pack warranty, and a two-year warranty on the entire notebook. The ZBD policy ensures that there will be no pixel issues on the screens. The two year standard, global hardware warranty is a refreshing move from the industry standard of one year.

    Asus provides worldwide tech support numbers along with the technical literature. I called the Asus tech support (twice) to see how long I would be put on hold. During the morning hours, I was on the phone for just over a minute before I my call was answered by an operator. In the evening of another day, the time was longer, being around four minutes. The time to an operator has been compared with previous experiences with other notebook companies.

    Asus also provides means to submit technical issues online, as well as attain software updates for Asus notebooks.

    Manufacturer Time to Operator
    Acer ~40-50 Mins
    Dell ~10-20 Mins
    Asus ~1-5 Mins


    Conclusion

    The Asus F3sv is a phenomenal 15.4” notebook in all respects. While it is relatively heavy and has poor battery life, it's compromised portability is vastly outweighed by its feature set, performance, build quality and total polish.

    Pros

    • Features and specs for the price
    • Runs silently and with minimal heat
    • Performance and elegance
    • Warranties and technical support

    Cons

    • Battery life
    • Touchpad doesn't have rocker wheel
     
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  2. sa_ill

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    Amazing review.......amazing gig

    Thats all I gotta say
     
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    awesome review, I've had my eye on the asus f3sv for while :)
     
  4. shrike

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    Nice review, can it be configured with Go8600GT ?
     
  5. link1313

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    To the readers keep in mind fraps videos slow down the FPS when videos are being recorded.
     
  6. Andrew Baxter

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    Thanks so much for the review Gautam, and very nicely done. That price you got is quite amazing, $1383. Where abouts did you make the purchase?
     
  7. jam12

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    I very much doubt that. The F3SV isn't a full on gaming notebook - thats the G1s.
     
  8. siLc

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    Good to see that there are some nice and some not so nice design adjustments compared to F3J`s. The new touchpad is nice, the USB in the front and webcam not so nice IMHO.
    The battery life is poor indeed. Was the processor running at full tilt? Were any power saving methods used at all?
    Looks like ASUS has finally tweaked the fan speeds a little bit. I've tweaked my F3Jc`s fan speeds with NHC (under Vista Business) and I'm getting also 48-49c idle and up to 70c under load, though its rather hot to the touch.
    Also most F3J's easily clocked over 2 hrs of battery life under XP, so I think you have insufficent power savings' settings enabled. With NHC, I'm getting 2-2:30 hrs under Vista...
     
  9. Paul

    Paul Mom! Hot Pockets! NBR Reviewer

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    Good review! Hopefully Linux support will get better within the next few months.
     
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    Yea with 2 gigs of ram oblivion and Lost Planet will play easily above 20 frames all the time. Nice review
     
  11. andy15

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    excellent review :) Rock Solid
     
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    Nice review!
     
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    Great review man! The only turnoff is that the card is GS instead of GT.
     
  14. shrike

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    yep, this kills it for me...
     
  15. darkspark88

    darkspark88 Notebook Evangelist

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    I thought a notebook like this shoudl at least have an 8 cell battery. on best estimates, it might reach 1h 45m, but still, hardly portable for any meaningful amount of time.

    Great specs though. The fingerprint reader is a real draw.
     
  16. Pseudo Nim

    Pseudo Nim Notebook Guru

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    Great review Gautam. One thing I'm curious about is the DVI port -- it looks like a dual-link, and the 8600GS chipset technically supports dual-link DVI. I wonder whether it would actually support dual-link DVI (i.e. driving a 30" flat panel at native 2560x1600); and also how much the thing weighs. I think quite a few people would be interested in that!
     
  17. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    Thanks for all your compliments! Feel free to keep posting questions and I will answer them. Also, I wanted you all to know that I have ordered 1GB of Robson (TurboMemory) and 1GB of RAM, and will add benchmarks to this review in the next few days, so you can see the performance leap(s), if any.

    Yes, so expect a bit more performance on the F3sv than I have reported. Expect a lot more if you add more RAM.

    I ordered mine on mwave.com, which is one of the few Asus retailers that has an agreement with fatwallet.

    The Power4Gear settings are Performance, Battery Saver, and Entertainment. Battery Saver was what I used on Battery, with my own tweaks, such as no Aero for the applicable benchmarks.

    The F3sv is SO cool and quiet, it's really ridiculous. I am used to hearing Dells, HPs, and Acers - so I am NOT used to the quiet computing of this Asus.

    I assume some underclocking will reclaim some battery life as well!

    I trust that it certainly will. This notebook is bound to become very popular, and anyway, it's just the new NVIDIA card compatibility that needs to be worked out. The Intel drivers are in the works, with a Q2 2007 date proposed for Linux native drivers.

    Oh, this is very much Dual-Link DVI-D !

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  18. john_rooker44

    john_rooker44 Notebook Enthusiast

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    If it is dual link dvi does that mean you will also be able to hook 2 external monitors to it?
     
  19. Pseudo Nim

    Pseudo Nim Notebook Guru

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    That's not what dual-link means - it just means the transceiver is capable of generating a signal frequency high enough to drive 2560x1600.

    Gautam: the review says the weight is 6.5lbs, is that manufacturer spec or your own measurement?
     
  20. SideSwipe

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    you know soemtimes a little fan noise is a good thing. why? so ya know ur fan is working and ur lappy isnt gonna fry itself.

    in my old desktop PC i had a A64 with a DFI mobo, it had a feature whereby it could actually turn your CPU fan off if the temp was low enough. of course i ddint know that at first so when one day the fan stopped working i freaked out lol

    moral of the story, fans are good, annoying bioses that make your fan quiet but increase your temps to high aren't.

    the CPU fan in this is clearly quiet, the temps are ok but i would prefer a lower idle temp than that.
     
  21. Laxpacman

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    Is there an 8 cell battery available ? Or do you think there will be ? Is the poor battery life linked to a BIOS issue as it seems with other models ?
     
  22. jman888

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    Under 1hr BAt? Will pass
     
  23. rafiki6

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    Excellent Review. I had recently bought the F3sv-X1 which is basically the same notebook but a native resolution of 1378x768 on the screen, and ABG Wifi instead of ABG Pre-N. I thought I would go for the X1 because the resolution is not so much of a factor. You only lose about 0.24 Megapixels, which is not a big deal for me. ALso since Wifi N is still in Draft I do not expect it to become a standard before mid 2008. The seem to be working out a couple of things still.

    Any way, I feel better about buying the notebook now. I think the Vid Card is just Fine, because this is not meant to be an extreme gaming notebook. Instead it is meant to be a avg user/ power user notebook. You can go for the G1s and get the 8600 Gt if you want. The difference in performance is about a 15-20 % increase, but either card will play current and future games, say around early 2009, when Nvidia will release the Geforce 9000 series, pretty damn well.

    The only thing that Asus should have done is provide a better battery. I am going to take my notebook to University and lectures. Sitting through a 3 hour lecture will be a pain in the butt, if what the review says is correct about the battery life. I have heard that on minimal settings the notebook is able to produce about 3.5 to 4 hours, and that is what Asus claims, so maybe the review did not take into account more powersaving methods.

    Also I sincerely question what Robson will do for the notebook. Other than the possibility of increase OS boot times, by mere seconds, it seems to have no benefit. Spend your money on RAM instead of Turbo Memory. RAM is just a little more dynamic, being able to function as HD memory cache and processor cache as well. I say for the A1 and X1 purchase another gig. That is what I did, cus inorder to use Vista it will sincerely SUCK, without another gig.
     
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    Redline Notebook Prophet NBR Reviewer

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    Two things severely limit the portability of the notebook: the 6.5lb weight (which is to be expected for a notebook of this size) and the measly battery life. Other than that though, this looks like a fantastic value for the money. Spend another $30 and bump it up to 2GB memory, and it should be good. You got a really good price on it too, I think; newegg has it at $1500. Great review!

    Does anyone know whats up with the 1366x768 res screen on the X1? Why doesn't it have the standard WXGA 1280x800?
     
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    queshy Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Great machine for the price...and nice review. the screen looks great actually.
     
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    spexc31 Notebook Evangelist

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    this review made me buy this model. just one thing...
    where can u get pre-configured with 2 gigs of ram? at least 2 gigs is a must for me. =\
     
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    Redline Notebook Prophet NBR Reviewer

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    I think many places will let you customize it when you order. Look at GentechPC, BTOTech, amd MilestonePC. You could also buy a separate 1GB stick of memory and add it in yourself.
     
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    Airman Band of Gypsys NBR Reviewer

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    Very well done man.
     
  29. AlexOnFyre

    AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer

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    Well done gautam! Are you thinking of doing any testing with the 3GB magic number theory?
     
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    Excellent review. The battery life is very surprising.
     
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    Who cares its a better resolution. It is the standard resolution on most 720p TVs, or 1080i Tvs so that means better quality. I think it is just a manufacturing thing anyway. The dimensions of the screen would only allow that ratio of 16:9 instead of the 16:10 standard for most widescreen laptops.

    I suggest just buying the extra 2 gig module from the site you purchase from, and install it yourself. It will only cost around 30-40 dollars, and it is really easy to install.
     
  32. Notebook Solutions

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    With 2 GB and without FRAPS, it should run Oblivion great!

    Thanks for this great review. Nicely done!
     
  33. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    A very informative review. However, the battery life is very disappointing. Is there any evidence of the PowerMizer software for the GPU? This should make very good power savings.

    John
     
  34. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    You can't, not at least through Asus. Asus resellers will be able to customize the notebook before they ship it, but they warn about the loss of the 24 month warranty.

    No, but I just popped in 1GB of Robson and 1GB of Ram (2GB total). Posting photos and test results today.

    Indeed. I suspect if anyone wants to be on the go with this one, an extended battery is essential. Unfortunately, there is no chance for a secondary battery battery since the optical drive sits in a fixed bay.

    Oh, it does! I have the PCMark05 scores to show for it, too!

    Is this software or hardware? How would I go about finding out if it is in use or not?
     
  35. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    Great review Gautam! Very informative. What a steal for the price you got it to.
     
  36. Mongatard

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    Where did you get your driver at?
     
  37. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    Thanks Niki! Fatwallet.com is a really great resource. Any notebook shopper should check to see if their store will offer a cash rebate from them!

    The modded NVIDIA driver you mean? LaptopVideo2Go.com, and I used their modded INF file to do the job.
     
  38. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    I wanted to add in a few photos of the accessories and parts that are provided by Asus with the F3sv

    Asus Notebook Bag


    The bag is very interesting looking, if not professional, and sturdy. It is very spacious as well. There is a separate, padded area that perfectly accommodates the F3sv.

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    Asus Logitech Mouse

    This Logitech mouse bears a startling resemblance to the Logitech v150, and is probably the exact same mouse.

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    Power Brick and Battery

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  39. mattireland

    mattireland It used to be the iLand..

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    Nice! I like how you've done the picture of the interior as well!

    I'm a bit disappointed with the standard RAM as well! Not like Asus is it? Still easily upgraded. Nice review!
     
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    do u think asus is a good bramd in notebooks
     
  41. Carlsan

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    I'm rather curious myself about the Robson TurboMemory.
    This is not a memory stick, correct? Is it on a USB Flash Drive?

    Looking forward to the further review and pictures.

    Thanks for all the work you have put into this, your review helped me decide to buy this notebook.
     
  42. unk3

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    Thats bs, my idle temp is 72-75'C and my gaming temp is 83-85'c. This is on stock settings too. Im pretty disappointed with my laptop so faR. Battery stinks.
     
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    A great review. So good, that I went and bought one from Newegg (~$1200). I've had it for two weeks, and love it. It's everything you said it was- and it held up to 2 weeks of intense business and gaming use.

    The clue about 2G of memory was important: Vista was a dog until that extra gig was plugged in.

    The thing I like best is the DVI output: you can plug a nice big widescreen display in and it pops up effortlessly for a capacious desktop. With an online 3d world (Second Life) going on on the widescreen, I can do lots of other work
    on the notebooks main screen with not one glitch.
     
  44. Ladon

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    Just wondering if ASUS have done anything about the battery life for the more recent versions?

    I'm looking at a couple here in OZ
     
  45. cyc10nEdesign

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    HELLO, I'm a F3SV Notebook owner, since 1st december of 2007.... and i've now ONE PIXEL DEAD, and i just want to know if Asus have ZERO DOT BRIGHT WARRANTY, because i'm a webdesigner/designer, and that DEADE PIXEL, kills me!

    i'm from Portugal... anyone can gives me the right answer, please ?
     
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    :mad:
    Do U really want to HEAR FROM SOMEONE WHO OWNS THIS LAPTOP ?
    MOST YOU FOLKS HAVE PRAISED GAUTOMS REVIEW.......
    But having this laptop for sometime is like getting to know , the other side of your ex wife :
    Here it is :
    <> Tends to heat up after sometime.

    <> There is a BUG IN THE BIOS THAT WILL NOT ENABLE IT TO READ SD CARDS FROM THE SD CARD READER ( windows error code 9 : google that ) or Hibernate. This is INSPITE OF INSTALLING ALL THE HOTFIXES ON THEIR WEBSITE AND ALL OTHER XP UPDATES.
    A NEW BIOS IS AVAILABLE OUT THERE BUT WHEN YOU TRY TO FLASH IT. THE PC WILL NOT START. YOU HAVE TO RESTORE IT BACK TO THE OLDER ONE TO GET ANYTHING TO WORK.
    I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AFTER INSTALLING SOME WINDOWS UPDATES.


    <> FingerPrint Utility is almost USELESS : I Have had HP FP Reader before this - max 3 tries and your in. With This one - I registered my entire left hand. 15 Tries ...still trying. That's some bad finger printing software .




    <> NOW THE WORST PART : THE ASUS TECH SUPPORT . MINE HAS 24 MONTHS WARRENTY. I CALL THEM UP ( SOMEONE WITH A CHINESE ACCENT PICKS UP) AND TELL THEM THE PROBLEM. THEY ASK ME THE SERIAL # and check that in their database.
    " That serial # does not belong to an F3SV Laptop......how come you have one ( so I spoofed the laptop ) .......I am sorry I cannot issue an RMA for this laptop" ( In other words sorry we can take back the laptop for repair )


    <> LASTLY the touchpad. Its like 2 planks of metals that have been shoved on a touchpad ( the right and left click). You really needs fingers like that of a hammerhead to get these to work . Also I dont know what the problem is- I guess not really s/w - when you double click on a folder there is no effect - have to click multiple times only to find that you went in rename mode.

    Long story short - Buy an HP or even Lenovo is better.
    This one looks all skimped out.