Asus F3J Review
The Asus F3J series laptop is considered a "portability" laptop. It offers a great machine for business and gaming and it is also a portable machine.
Asus F3Ja (view large image)According to the Asus website the F3Ja offers "True-to-Life Gaming Enjoyment [the] F3Ja offers outstanding dual-core performance to enjoy multimedia management and digital content creation"
The model I specifically have is the F3APT2400, also known as the F3Ja.
Specifications for F3Ja as reviewed:
- Intel Core Duo Processor T2400 1.83GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 667MHz
- Mobile Intel 945PM Express Chipset
- 2 GB DDR2 667MHz Ram (I upgraded from 1GB)
- 15.4" WXGA
- ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 External 256MB VRAM /with 512MB Hypermemory
- SATA 100 GB 5400rpm
- 8X DVD Super Multi Burner
- 7 in 1 MMC/ SD/ Mini-SD/Memory Stick/ MS Pro/ MS-Duo/MS-Pro-Duo Card Reader
- 6 Cells 4800mAH Battery
- 802.11a/b/g
- Bluetooth V2.0+EDR
- 1.3M Megabyte Pixels Built in Webcam
- Ports: 1 x Headphone-out jack, 1 x Microphone-in jack, 1 x Line-in Jack, 1 x RJ11 Modem jack for phone line, 1 x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert, 4 x USB 2.0 ports, 1x IEEE 1394 port, 1 x TV Out (S-Video), 1 x Express Card, 1 x DVI Port, 1 x VGA Port
- Dimensions: 365 x 269.5 x 28-40.5 mm
- Weight: 2.95kg / 6.5lbs (With 6 cell battery)
Reasons for Buying:
I am going to the University of Washington this fall. I need a computer that is portable enough for me to take around campus and powerful enough for me to play games such as Battlefield 2 -- or any other high end graphic games. At first, I thought about getting a Dell XPS M1710, but the laptop was too big and heavy for me. It is also ridiculously expensive. I wanted to find a system that is around 15 inches and capable for gaming. I spent nearly two months trying to find a perfect laptop for myself. Then I went to a computer convention in Taipei (I live in Taiwan). It was there that I was introduced to the Asus F3 series laptop. I was told the F3 is the upgrade from the Asus A6 or S96j. I tried looking for other similar laptops at the convention, but couldn't find any that would fit my criteria as well as the F3Ja.
My Criteria:
- 14 inch ~ 15.4 inch
- Portable
- Powerful dedicated graphic card
- Worth the price (value)
- Simple and fine looking, but nothing fancy like Alienware.
- Made in Taiwan (to support the home country)
Where and How Purchased:
In the end, I bought the Asus F3Ja at the convention. I haggled a little on price. I also added another 1GB of ram (total: 2GB ram) after market. The final price was 48,800NT, which is around $1,484.41 USD. I thought it was an awesome deal!
Build & Design:
The design is one of the best I've seen from Asus. I used to think that Asus made cheap looking laptops, but I changed my mind after I got the F3Ja. The laptop itself is silvery grey with a combination of black on certain surfaces (such as the keyboard and black strip at the bottom of the laptop lid). The texture is smooth and comfortable. The design is very simple yet elegant. You open the lid by pressing a black small button at the front of the laptop. The lid opens smoothly without any problem. I don't get any wobbling when I push the back of the LCD. The laptop weighs about 2.95kg (6.5lbs) which in my opinion is a decent load for a 15.4-inch laptop. The build and design of this laptop is very nicely done.
Screen:
The screen is a widescreen 15.4" glossy WXGA @ 1280X800. There seems to be an extra layer of glass or plastic that protects the screen. If you feel the screen with your fingertips, you will notice this hard and protective layer. When compared to a regular LCD with a soft and sensitive surface, the F3Ja's screen seems much better protected. The color and the contrast of the screen are great. The screen is very bright and the viewing angle of the screen is fine too. You can look at it from both sides without any major distortion or color change. However, you do see a contrast difference when viewing it from a high and low angle. But this shouldn't be a problem for anyone. I play Battlefield 2 on this laptop with good response time. Asus also supplies pre-installed software called "ASUS Splendid Technology Utility". This software can be used when users want to change the settings for the screen. It has six modes which include: Normal, Gamma, Vivid, Theater, Soft and My Profile (where you set your own setting). The software is very easy to use, just a click of a button and you're done. Asus also has a hotkey built for this software. We will talk about that later. Overall, I'm very happy with the screen.
Watching my favorite TV show, The Office (view large image)Speakers:
The speakers are located at the top of the keyboard and just below the screen. The speakers are fine considering they're laptop speakers. You can listen to your MP3s and watch video on it, but there's hardly any bass presented with the sound. The overall sound quality is average. As for the volume, the volume of the speakers is fine. I'm not surprised or displeased with the speakers. They are just average laptop speakers.
Processor and Performance:
The processor is an Intel Core Duo Processor T2400 1.83GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 667MHz. I wish it was 2.0 GHz, but 1.83GHz is fine with me. It takes about 45 seconds to get to the login screen. It takes about another 35 seconds to load and finish most background and startup software. The Processor performs extremely well; I can play Battlefield 2 and Madden 07 without any hassle or problem. Note: These load times quoted above were taken after I installed all the software I usually use, so it should be faster when you have your first startup.
The hard drive is a SATA 100 GB 5400RPM. I wish it were 7200RPM, but that option wasn't presented at the time I bought it. Overall though the hard drive performs well -- I haven't had any problems with the speed of the hard drive. Files copy and program installation is normal and occurs at decent speeds.
Benchmarks:
Super Pi: (In Asus Super-Performance Mode)
SuperPi measures CPU performance by calculating Pi to a specific number of digits.
Notebook
Time to Calculate Pi to 2 Million Digits
Asus F3Ja (1.83GHz Core Duo)
1m 16s
HP dv6000z (1.8GHz Turion64 X2 TL-56)
1m 54s
Compaq V3000T(1.6GHz Core Duo)
1m 26s
Dell Inspiron e1505 (2.00 GHz Core 2 Duo)
1m 02s
Toshiba A100(2.0GHz Core Duo)
1m 18s
Acer Aspire 5102WLMi(1.6GHz Turion64 X2 TL-50
2m 22s
Gateway E-100M(1.2GHz Core Solo ULV)
2m 02s
Dell Inspiron 600m (1.6 GHz Dothan Pentium M)
2m 10s
HP dv5000z(2.0GHz Sempron 3300+)
2m 02s
PCMark05 Comparison Results:
PCMark05 provides an overall system performance evaluation that includes the graphics card and processor.
Notebook PCMark05 Score AsusF3Ja (1.83 GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 256MB)
3,918PCMarks Fujitsu N6410(1.66GHz Core Duo) 3,487 PCMarks Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60) 5,597PCMarks Sony Vaio SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 3,637 PCMarks Dell Inspiron e1405 (1.66 GHz Intel T2300) 2,879PCMarks Asus V6J (1.86GHz Core Duo T2400) 3,646 PCMarks Toshiba Satellite M70 (Pentium M1.86GHz) 1,877 PCMarks Again, the benchmark performance is good.
3DMark05 Results and comparison:
3DMark05 tests the graphics processing capabilities of a system:
Notebook 3DMark 05 Results AsusF3Ja (1.83 GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 256MB)
3,696 3D Marks Apple MacBook Pro (2.0GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 128MB) 2866 3D Marks Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60 Nvidia GeForce Go7800 GTX) 7,0783DMarks ThinkPadT43 (1.86GHz, ATI X300 64MB graphics) 727 3DMarks Asus V6Va (2.13 GHz Pentium M, ATI Radeon Mobility x700 128 MB) 2,530 3D Marks Fujitsu n6410(1.66 GHz Core Duo, ATI X1400 128MB) 2,2733DMarks HP dv4000 (1.86GHz Pentium M, ATI X700 128MB) 2,536 3D Marks Acer TravelMate 8204WLMi(2.0GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 256MB) 4,157 3DMarks
This is where I am disappointed. The 3DMark05 score is clearly lower than other similarspec laptops. It should be close to the score of 4000. But after playing through a problem/lag free Battlefield 2 game, I'm not all that concerned about the score. This laptop can run games in high settings without any problems. At the end, this is only a benchmark score; it doesn't translate into actual gaming experience.
3DMark06: 1,893 (In Game Mode)
A little bit disappointed, but 3DMark06 is a tough benchmark to run anyway.
HD Tune: Average 30.8MB/Sec. (see picture)
Heat and Noise:
The laptop has felt surprisingly cool throughout my use. When playing Battlefield 2, you can feel a little bit of warmth at the lower right corner, but it doesn't distract you. The cooling system must be very efficient. The cooling vents are located at the left of the laptop (next to the DVD burner) and at the top right corner (near the USB ports). The cooling vents are placed well so you won't feel hot air blowing out of the vent when using a mouse. As for the noise, you will hardly notice any noise from the laptop. The DVD-Burner is surprisingly quiet when compared to other laptops I've used. It only makes limited sound that comes when initially reading a CD. The Asus F3 once again proved its quality in this section.
Keyboard & Touchpad:
The keyboard is great compared to other laptop keyboards. It does not flex. The keys require limited pressure to press. The pressure is just right in my opinion, not too soft and not too hard. It does make that small clicking keyboard sound when you type fast but it shouldn't be a problem after you get used to it. I'm perfectly satisfied with the keyboard.
Also, a lot of people have complained about Asus's Ctrl and Fn key setup. Asus finally switched the two keys around so right now the Ctrl key is located to the far left and Fn key is at the right. This is a good decision by Asus.
Touchpad:
As for the touchpad, it takes me a little bit of time to get use to it. It is like any other touchpad but with a small exception, the scrolling function is located in the right side of the touchpad, instead of the normal separate key in between the mouse buttons. This is "okay" in my opinion but it does take a while to get used to it. Sometimes I would accidentally touch the scrolling function and a webpage would move up and down. You just need to know where the boundary is and you'll be fine. As for the touchpad mouse button, it has an Apple like design. It looks like a single mouse button but it is actually two buttons in one piece. It works like any other touchpad mouse button so this is fine in my opinion.
Hotkeys:
There are six hotkey buttons on the top right corner of the keyboard. I will name the function keys in order from left to right: Asus DVD player (I don't know how to change it to another media player), Power4 Gear (for changing to different mode such as game mode, battery saving mode, etc.), able/disable touchpad, ASUS Splendid Technology Utility (quick key for changing the screen setting), Default web browser (in my case, it is FireFox), Power button.
Built-in Webcam/Microphone:
The Asus F3Ja has a built-in webcam and microphone sitting directly above the LCD screen. The camera is 1.3 mega pixels in resolution. I did a Skype webcam test with my sister in New York (half way across the world!). The result was excellent. She said she didn't see any lag effect and that my mouth was in synch with my voice.
Input and Output Ports:
The ports are mostly located on the right side. It can feel crowded with all the things connected to the laptop. Other than that, it has everything I need. There are even two USB ports located at the rear side, which is good for external mouse users. What surprises me the most is that the F3Ja has two video outputs, one VGA and one DVI. One small problem I encountered is that it is quite annoying when you need to connect your laptop to external speakers because the headphone jack is at the front of the laptop.
Right side:
- l Express Card
- l 2 x USB 2.0 ports
- l IEEE 1394 port
- l TV Out (S-Video)
- l DVI Port
- l VGA Port
- l RJ11 Modem jack for phone line
- l RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert
Left Side:
- l Kensington lock port
- l 8X DVD Super Multi Burner
Rear Side:
- l DC Input
- l 2 x USB 2.0 ports
- l Battery
Front Side:
- l Wireless on/off switch
- l Open button
- l 1 x Headphone-out jack
- l 1 x Microphone-in jack
- l 7 in 1 MMC/ SD/ Mini-SD/Memory Stick/ MS Pro/ MS-Duo/MS-Pro-Duo Card Reader
Wireless:
The Asus F3 comes with an Intel 3945 a/b/g wireless chip built-in. I didn't encounter any wireless connection problems. It works like any other laptop wireless connection. I myself like the Intel wireless utility, I find it much easier and simpler to use than window's own wireless utility.
The Asus F3Ja also has Bluetooth 2.0 built-in. I haven't had the chance to test the Bluetooth but it should work fine. Just as a reminder, remember to install the Bluetooth driver before you want to connect any devices through Bluetooth. The driver is already pre-loaded in Windows; you just need to run the installation.
Battery:
Battery life and performance differs with the use of each different Power4 Gear mode. There are 8 Power4 Gear modes, below are the predicted battery times in each mode:
- Super Performance: disabled during battery mode
- High Performance: about 2h 30m
- Game: about 2h 30m
- DVD Movie: 2h 40m
- Quiet Office: 2h 40m
- Presentation: 3h (screen brightness decreases)
- CD-Audio: 3h 10m (screen brightness decreases dramatically)
- Battery saving: 2h 50m (screen brightness decrease)
Supplied Items:
The Asus F3Ja comes with a mouse and a laptop messenger bag
The mouse is a V100 optical mouse made by Logitech. The mouse is very good for travel. It is very lightweight and portable. One major upside of the mouse is that it comes with side to side scrolling ability. The USB cord is pretty short (70cm/27inch), so it is not ideal for desktop use. You can see more detail regarding the V100 optical mouse on Logitech.com.
Messenger Bag:
As for the messenger bag, it is very handy. It fits the 15.4 inch laptop just right. However, it does not provide enough capacity for long-distance travel or even to server as a school bag. It is pretty much packed when I put in my mouse, Ethernet cable, battery charger and a book novel. You'd be better off buying a bigger laptop bag. I myself am buying an Ogio Fugitive bag as a school bag. But if you're only going to put the laptop and some laptop accessories in it, then you'll be fine with the included bag.
Operating System and Software:
Window XP Home edition is pre-installed by Asus. All the pre-installed software is useful in my opinion.
List of other pre-installed software:
- ASUSDVD
- ASUS Live Update
- ASUS Splendid Video Enhancement Technology
- Net4Switch
- Power4Gear
- Catalyst Control Panel
- Bluetooth Software
- Nero OEM Suite
- Intel PROSet Wireless Software
- Synaptics Touchpad Software
- ATK media
- Symantec Norton Internet Security 2005
- Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0
Software included in the CDs:
- Asus DVD
- PowerDirector Pro
- Medi@ Show
- Norton Internet Security 2005
- Asus F3 Driver & Utility CD
- Nero OEM Suite
- Windows XP Home Edition Recovery Disk
Customer Support:
The Asus F3Ja comes with a two year international warranty. I didn't have any chance to test the Asus customer support but I do know they have excellent customer service in Taiwan. However, the same thing probably can't be said about the customer service in the US. I suggest readers to check other Asus laptop reviews to get a better glimpse at Asus US customer support.
Conclusion:
I love this laptop! It has everything I want. When it comes to buying a laptop and computer parts I'm very picky. However, this laptop has very few problems that I can pick on. This is a perfect laptop for any college student or business person. It is both portable and powerful. It is awesome!
Score: 5/5
Pros:
- Stylish design
- Great and sturdy build quality
- Powerful dedicated graphic card (ATI X1600)
- Has both DVI and VGA ports
- Awesome value and price
Cons:
- Disappointing benchmark score
- Ports are crowded at the right side of the laptop
Extra pictures:
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themanwiththeblacksax Notebook Consultant
very nice, that laptop looks like quite a deal, really. very solid all around. oh and nicely done review too. and extra points because the office is your favorite show.
Kinda basing off of your con about the ports, i find it very strange that so many laptops have a lot of the more obnoxious ports on the right side, especially things like expresscard or dvi--generally what's going to go into that port is pretty beefy. I just find it strange because the majority of people have their mouse on the right side, and unless you like your mouse far away from you you'll have a rough time managing all those usb, dvi, and express card cables. on my computer, for example, the tv tuner card is on the right. coax cable is not easy to just tuck away somewhere, so i keep having to jockey the stuff around any time i want to move the mouse...just some of my thoughts. nice review -
thanks. sorry for the messy desk, you guys should just ignore that. and i also forgot to edit the photo with the webcam. the epson icon is just my printer in the back so don't be confused. there's no epson icon on the asus laptop.
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Thank you for an excellent review, Tas! I was looking at the A6J earlier this year but wanted something with an ExpressCard slot to make it that little bit more futureproof. I might take a look at the F3Jm, with the go7600 GPU instead.
I wouldn't be too concerned about how well your machine runs the 3DMark benchmarks, as long as your in-game performance is up to scratch benchmarks are for little more than bragging rights anyway. That being said, have you updated your drivers, or are you still running the Asus supplied drivers?
I don't mind The Office, but I much prefer the original UK production with Ricky Gervais... US remakes of British series tend to irritate me. -
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Congrats on your new notebook , well speced .
You shouldn't be unhappy with the benchmarks , they are inline or even better then other 1.8 Duo Cores , the 3Dmark06 is fine too .
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Congrats on your new Asus F3Ja. I'm jealous with envy since the F3Ja is far more asthetically pleasing than my z96j -- not to mention the keyboard looks way better.
I wouldn't be too unhappy with the F3Ja's benchmark scores, they sound about right. Moreover, like you said, they don't matter if the notebook does what you want.. Ahem.. (playing games at high graphics ^_^)
And just FYI: Although Asus is a Taiwanese company, some of the notebooks are made in China (Well, at least my z96j was) -
Great review! That looks to be an excellent option in the 15.4" gaming segment.
I agree that the benchmarks on your system seem to be about right and wouldn't worry about it at all.
It does seem odd that they loaded up the right side with ports. But it has a DVI output! That's always nice.
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i'm don't know what my fps is for bf2. hm.. i have to check that up, but it runs smooth with settings on high and AA set to 2x. and the sale person told me the machine is built in taiwan. maybe not all parts but it's still good.
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Great review! Thank you so much for writing one up, I've been looking all over for an F3Ja/F3Jm review and was surprised about the lack of info on this notebook. I myself am waiting for a Core 2 Duo version of the F3Jm, but who knows when that'll come out.
Quick question: I'm sorry if you addressed this in your review but have you noticed any graininess with the screen at all? There's a thread about graininess in ASUS notebooks equipped with the x1600 video card and I was just curious if yours had it. Thanks again! -
Very nice review. I was thinking about buying an HP pavilion dv6000t but now I think I'll change my mind
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Nice review, I was going to do one myself but won't bother now. Wouldn't have been as good as yours anyway.
I do have a question for you though, Core duo 1.83? I seem to have got core duo 1.77. Now I'm sure the difference in speed is pretty much negligable but I haven't even see 1.77 anywhere else so it was a bit surprising.
Other than that everything matches up. How hard was it to change the ram? I'm considering upping mine to 2 gig sooner or later anyway. -
Whoops forgot to mention, great laptop everyone buy one
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i did, i didn't see any problems with the scree.
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Thanks for the review. Could you take a look at your DVI connector and tell us if all the pins in the 4x8 matrix are there? If there's a group of 4x3 pins, then a mostly blank 4x2 holes, then a group of 4x3 pins, this means that the DVI connection is single-link. In the F3JM, ASUS made the DVI single-link; the A8JM is dual-link. For any monitor up to 1200x1900@60Hz, this doesn't mean much - but it's an odd trade-off ASUS made, I suppose, to bring in the F3JM and A8JM at the same price. The A8JM's rear-mounted connectors produce less clutter and are better if you're planning to run with an external monitor - but perhaps the logic was that with a larger screen you're less likely to need those beefy connectors that stick out of the right side, so it's OK to put them there and leave most of the back for a (possibly) bigger battery to stick out the back.
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i have no idea what you're trying to ask me to do.
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I think i understand what you want, no idea what it all means but on my f3ja i have all the pins, can't see any blank holes.
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Follow this link to wikipedia for a discription of dual- and single-link DVI.
Wizard of Oz, what you've found MAY mean that your f3ja has full dual-link DVI. Strictly speaking, the central 2 columns of pins should not be there if dual-link isn't supported. In N.A., ASUS specs the A8Jm as dual-link and the F3Jm as single-link...but it may be using the same connector for both to save money. The only way to tell if your Euro-spec F3Ja actually supports dual-link
is to try to hook up a 30" 1600 x 2500 display to it and see if the image looks wobbly. Another way to deduce dual-link is to set the external monitor resolution to maximum in your DISPLAY control panel and see if it exceeds 1200 x 1900.
Dual-link DVI, by the way, is one of the MacBook's bragging points. All Macs can theoretically drive any of their displays up to their 30" Cinema display. -
tasmonkey, I apologize for confusing you. Your DVI connector's pin matrix
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thank you for the review as i plan on getting this laptop. in australia it seems that only the core 2 duo models are availbale. they are the f3jp (t5500 1.66) and the f3jv (t7200). anyone know if there is a major difference in performance between the two? and if there is, would be justify spending the extrea $600 for that and an extra 20gig of space?
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you hooked me up sooooo bad on this laptop man! the first chance i get to take a flight to the uk i'm buying this baby!
by any chance, does someone have a sort of "key" for the different letters at the end? for example this F3JC-A015P available here has no VGA-Out (at least from the specs given there). ah btw, Lm1 = US$3, i.e. Lm575 = $1725. Why was I born on this **** rock?!
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Hi Tas: I'm interested in getting the F3ja can you coment on the screen. I know that it is glossy, how are the reflections?
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Since there is a considerable space between a closed screen and the chassis, dust gathers really quickly. As for reflections, I can see myself clearly even thru the thick layer of dust in direct daylight next to a window
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Hi, i dno if ur still about this forum is slightly outdated, but i was just wondering if anyone could give me a guide on how to upgrade the ram from 1GB to 2GB, ive bought the ram already i just need to know how to put it in.
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Please post the question in the ASUS forum.
Asus F3Ja Review (pics, specs)
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